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virulient

virulient

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MidnightJoker said:
Hey neved. Let me try and offer some help to your grow. You need to do a few things in order for your grow to be successful. First, remove that aluminium foil from your plants. It will only generate heat, not help your plants. Second, if you can, try and get an HID lighting system for your plants. I really don't think you have enough LED's to make a successful grow and an HID will give your plants the lighting it needs.
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I could'nt have said it better myself. LED's can keep it, it's been proven, but they're not for everyone's situation. And they're extremely costly up-front. Not to mention, there are more proven results with HID lighting. That being said, there is an abundance of growers finding success with LED's, but I would agree that HID is probably the b est way to go for YOUR situation. The problem I had was the idiot who was like "LED's are garbage!". They aren't. They work fantastically, if you spend the cash on the right light and know how to grow with it properly.

As for your setup, I don't have to know about your setup to tell you 95% of your light is wasted. There are actually only 2 things I need to know. 1. You use a MH and/or HPS. and 2. The basics of PAR (Photo-synthetically Active Radiation). Which is basically what spectrum's of light your plant "uses/responds to" in the simple process we like to know as Photosynthesis.

You should probably learn the basics of light spectrum's and PAR ratings before you get offended by what I say, as I wasn't saying our setup is wrong, or you don't know what you're talking about (although obviously you don't). I was merely pointing out that only ~5% of light emitted by MH/HPS is us-able by plants in photosynthesis. It's all very basic.
 
penguinking

penguinking

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have fun pretending to be a serious grower with leds virulient. i dont know why you gotta talk shit, or get so defensive. i guarantee you wouldnt have such a loud mouth if we were face to face
 
virulient

virulient

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penguinking said:
have fun pretending to be a serious grower with leds virulient. i dont know why you gotta talk shit, or get so defensive. i guarantee you wouldnt have such a loud mouth if we were face to face
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It kinda bothers me when people try to offer advice without doing the proper research. You just heard someone say "LED's R BAD" and that's how you decided lmfao. Go back to your hole!
 
neved

neved

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MidnightJoker said:
Hey neved. Let me try and offer some help to your grow. You need to do a few things in order for your grow to be successful. First, remove that aluminium foil from your plants. It will only generate heat, not help your plants. Second, if you can, try and get an HID lighting system for your plants. I really don't think you have enough LED's to make a successful grow and an HID will give your plants the lighting it needs.
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Hey dude....
I searched that leds is new way of growing marij....
So I had read too much text + benefit+light +.... and i didn't get that were bad light ....
I use 16 leds in each of prejectors....12 red 4 blue .....
If I should use HID ....I will rapidly buy enough HId that are I need.....
what your plan on hid that i will buy ?
 
neved

neved

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virulient said:
Lmao. You've "read up on them" Yea......ok. I'm no longer motivated to continue this discussion. It's like talking to someone from Mississippi....
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Hey virulient
ty for your advice .....
We just here for learn and help each other ....
Im not happy for that discussion ....
If i add Hid next to my leds and If the next group females growing better under that is it possible?!
 
virulient

virulient

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No problems, sorry for hi-jacking your thread. Anyways, I think if you added an HID you would see a drastic improvement. LED's are great, but they're extremely pricey still, to get a proper light. I think a 600w switchable ballast is just what the doctor ordered for you, possibly even a 1000w for the size of your grow. Keep in mind this is going to bring heat into play. You will definitely need to be ready to cool down your light and your grow area, respectively.

The thing with an HID system is, they're un-questionably proven. If you buy a reputable 600 or 1000w ballast with a good bulb, you KNOW you're going to get results from that light. It may not be the most efficient, or even the "best" (whatever that means these days!!), but you know for a fact you're going to get results with it.

The HID/LED combo, from what I've seen, have been working out really well. The HID lighting gives you the power, while the LED's can provide other ranges of the spectrum. So definitely keep using the LED's you already have, as supplemental lighting.
 
neved

neved

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virulient said:
No problems, sorry for hi-jacking your thread. Anyways, I think if you added an HID you would see a drastic improvement. LED's are great, but they're extremely pricey still, to get a proper light. I think a 600w switchable ballast is just what the doctor ordered for you, possibly even a 1000w for the size of your grow. Keep in mind this is going to bring heat into play. You will definitely need to be ready to cool down your light and your grow area, respectively.

The thing with an HID system is, they're un-questionably proven. If you buy a reputable 600 or 1000w ballast with a good bulb, you KNOW you're going to get results from that light. It may not be the most efficient, or even the "best" (whatever that means these days!!), but you know for a fact you're going to get results with it.

The HID/LED combo, from what I've seen, have been working out really well. The HID lighting gives you the power, while the LED's can provide other ranges of the spectrum. So definitely keep using the LED's you already have, as supplemental lighting.[/QUOTE


I use this way (led) and will check at end of flowering ....Its really ext.....
If this work well on this group of plants in flowering I will add 10 projectors
I hope to have 100 plants in 15 m yard
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watchhowIdoit

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penguinking said:
i say this with all due respect. led's are whack, theyre way too expensive, and dont provide the correct spectrum of light. get on craigslist, find a hps and do yourself a favor
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LEDS are expensive, the good ones that is, and work great when used correctly. And the good ones like Stealth Grow supply a precise spectrum the plant needs, thats one of their benefits, not downfalls.
And OP get your CFLs closer to your seedlings so they do not stretch so much. Like within an inch or so. With that number of plants looks like you need more CFLs to properly light them.
 
virulient

virulient

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neved said:
I use this way (led) and will check at end of flowering ....Its really ext.....
If this work well on this group of plants in flowering I will add 10 projectors
I hope to have 100 plants in 15 m yard
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Sounds good man! Remember, in the end, results are ALWAYS the key! Keep up the good work, definitely keep us updated!
 
neved

neved

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watchhowIdoit said:
LEDS are expensive, the good ones that is, and work great when used correctly. And the good ones like Stealth Grow supply a precise spectrum the plant needs, thats one of their benefits, not downfalls.
And OP get your CFLs closer to your seedlings so they do not stretch so much. Like within an inch or so. With that number of plants looks like you need more CFLs to properly light them.
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Ty dude...
I use 8*70w cfls for 25 plants in veg and preflowering .......I thought they were not enough ...
But I think the florsent lamp is better .........I seeded under specially florcent its great than cfl
I seeded my first group plants under cfl that not strong as ....
I use foil on top of the lamp and my rotate fan work as the system turn on .....
I think by this fan I don't have heat stress .... So my first group didn't have any heat stress ....
I changed my role in easy way daily,....
But one of big problem that I manage big company and I have 90 employer right now.....Its real hard for me that I wast my time less than 30 min in a day for seeing my love plants....
I have 3 beautiful outdoor plants in my private room here (In company) they are great,,,,,
But I had a private home that I start growing indoor there....With that I failed some of my friends for only keep working on that case....
I LOVE GROWING
Keep in touch
Best wishes
 
neved

neved

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I search for add new light
I find HID and MH lamp and instruction
by that way I searched and suggest that
i will add 2 hid lamp (350w) imclud my leds for better result
I hope they will awesome
wish all the best
 
virulient

virulient

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Sounds like a nice mix. If you can get the ballast that have the ability to switch from MH to HPS, that way you can switch to HPS for flowering and still have MH for vegetative state. Either way though, sounds like a winning combination!
 
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watchhowIdoit

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And even though Eric Biksa is a front man for Big Mike and AN he still knows his shit. He has some great vids on youtube pertaining to the use of LEDs and the subtle differences in nute use when using LEDs if you have not checked them out already...
 
Jesushasdreads

Jesushasdreads

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my 600W ballast fires both MH and HPS without using a switch. The only thing i dont have is the Dial-A-Watt deal where you can make a 1000W or 600W anything from 250W-1000W MH or HPS so long as you run the correct bulb. Neved id check into something like that....they aren't much more expensive and they are way more versatile. Get a digital ballast for sure, they run cooler and are more efficient. i purchased mine from www.HTGsupply.com, great company, great customer service. I cannot comment on LED as i have no real personal experience with them, but if you run your HID and LED together, you will be golden. You cant have too much light, just keep your temps right and possibly consider a sealed reflector that has ducting flanges if you think heat will be an issue.
 
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