Issues With Prop 19 Solved! Now we can all Support it.

The Ruiner

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I voted for prop 19 and Kamala Harris.

I am not so sure that Harris will be any better than Cooley on MJ, though.
Harris has been spotted in the LAJEMM...she's even got an ad and an article...I think she will be awesome actually. Totally has my vote.
 

mccumcumber

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Harris has done wonderful wonderful things for San Francisco. Under her supervision it was legal to toke on buses, because lets be honest, who wants to ride the bus sober... no one. She was hard on drug dealers, but simultaneously lenient on pot smokers. Regardless of your views on 19, Harris is definitely the better choice, Cooley will do his best to take out all of the medical dispensaries in California, because he's a dick.
 

desert dude

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Harris has been spotted in the LAJEMM...she's even got an ad and an article...I think she will be awesome actually. Totally has my vote.
I voted straight Libertarian with two exceptions, one was Harris and the other was Fiorina. I don't like either of them, but I think Harris might be better than Cooley, though frankly I will not be surprised if she is terrible on Cannabis. I voted for Fiorina because Boxer's old fat ass need to get out of the senate. I only voted for these two because I am a realistic Libertarian, hence I know that no Libertarian has any real chance at being elected even though ANY Libertarian will be better on the Cannabis issue than any D or R.
 

klmmicro

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I simply cannot vote for Harris...she may let you smoke, but is against the ownership of firearms. Cooley is against smoking, but pro 2A. There i simply no win with either of these choices. Cooley cannot get rid of Medical, no matter how hard he campaigns against it. To succeed in his goal, he would have to get the people of California to rescind their original decision. Harris, on the other hand...well she can freely trash 2A in this state. The other liberal AG's have had a great time doing it over the past 30 years.

If weed is more important than basic rights outlined in the Bill of Rights, than more power to you. There are other things besides that going on though.
 

Hayduke

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I simply cannot vote for Harris...she may let you smoke, but is against the ownership of firearms. Cooley is against smoking, but pro 2A. There i simply no win with either of these choices. Cooley cannot get rid of Medical, no matter how hard he campaigns against it. To succeed in his goal, he would have to get the people of California to rescind their original decision. Harris, on the other hand...well she can freely trash 2A in this state. The other liberal AG's have had a great time doing it over the past 30 years.

If weed is more important than basic rights outlined in the Bill of Rights, than more power to you. There are other things besides that going on though.
Good Point.

:leaf::peace::leaf:
 

potroast

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Well, Cooley has succeeded in closing hundreds of dispensaries in LA and wants to close them all. He will not end MMJ, but he can control how it happens. And his stated belief is that no sales are legal, so anyone selling it will be prosecuted. I don't see how any cannabis consumer could vote for that arrogant prick.
 

veggiegardener

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Well, Cooley has succeeded in closing hundreds of dispensaries in LA and wants to close them all. He will not end MMJ, but he can control how it happens. And his stated belief is that no sales are legal, so anyone selling it will be prosecuted. I don't see how any cannabis consumer could vote for that arrogant prick.
The NRA will do their usual song and dance and keep our second amendment rights.

Cooley would be a disaster as AG, just like Dan Lungren(my current Congressman). Lungren would be a better fit as a door stop. A really vile human being. Cooley wants to grow up to be just like him.
 

Dan Kone

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I voted for Fiorina because Boxer's old fat ass need to get out of the senate. I only voted for these two because I am a realistic Libertarian, hence I know that no Libertarian has any real chance at being elected even though ANY Libertarian will be better on the Cannabis issue than any D or R.
What? Fiorina has a proven record of incompetence. Her major claim to fame was her work at HP which was a total disaster for everyone. Not only did HP fire 15-30k people, but the stock price tanked as well while she was CEO. What makes you think she's any better than Boxer?
 

Dan Kone

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Cooley cannot get rid of Medical, no matter how hard he campaigns against it. To succeed in his goal, he would have to get the people of California to rescind their original decision.
The hell he can't. The reason things are what they are is largely because of the AG guidelines Brown wrote. Cooley interpenetrates prop 215 in a way where dispensaries are all illegal. He sees any exchange in currency within a collective to be illegal. That effectively shuts down the whole network that has been built.

I don't know about you, but personally I like the option of being able to go to a dispensary and put some bud on consignment, pick up some new clones, and then maybe buy a few grams of strains I've never tried before.
 

desert dude

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I simply cannot vote for Harris...she may let you smoke, but is against the ownership of firearms. Cooley is against smoking, but pro 2A. There i simply no win with either of these choices. Cooley cannot get rid of Medical, no matter how hard he campaigns against it. To succeed in his goal, he would have to get the people of California to rescind their original decision. Harris, on the other hand...well she can freely trash 2A in this state. The other liberal AG's have had a great time doing it over the past 30 years.

If weed is more important than basic rights outlined in the Bill of Rights, than more power to you. There are other things besides that going on though.
Good point. The only limiting factor to Harris is DC V Heller and McDonald V Chicago.
 

desert dude

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What? Fiorina has a proven record of incompetence. Her major claim to fame was her work at HP which was a total disaster for everyone. Not only did HP fire 15-30k people, but the stock price tanked as well while she was CEO. What makes you think she's any better than Boxer?
I don't think Carly is better than Babs, just different. I hate the "politician" for life minset.
 

mccumcumber

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Imagine a giant schlong. Now, imagine your butt. Cooley is the schlong, your butt are the dispensaries. And Cooley is hornier than a life prisoner with no parole. He wants to fuck every dispensary in the ass, and probably take away all of the legal marijuana rights... hell, he might even try to take away the decriminalization for less than one zip... then we're all fucked. Cooley is a big no no. Harris is only against guns because she grew up in Oakland. They don't even have a gun shop in that city, yet every single gangster and wanna be "gangsta" has a gun.... that's 75% of the population right there. I don't think Harris could do much against firearms. Maybe she'll only outlaw them in cities, which would be fucking awesome.
 

desert dude

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Imagine a giant schlong. Now, imagine your butt. Cooley is the schlong, your butt are the dispensaries. And Cooley is hornier than a life prisoner with no parole. He wants to fuck every dispensary in the ass, and probably take away all of the legal marijuana rights... hell, he might even try to take away the decriminalization for less than one zip... then we're all fucked. Cooley is a big no no. Harris is only against guns because she grew up in Oakland. They don't even have a gun shop in that city, yet every single gangster and wanna be "gangsta" has a gun.... that's 75% of the population right there. I don't think Harris could do much against firearms. Maybe she'll only outlaw them in cities, which would be fucking awesome.
Grab some KY and bend over because it looks like he will be elected.
 

Dan Kone

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I don't think Carly is better than Babs, just different. I hate the "politician" for life minset.
Anyone elected Senator is from that point on a politician for life. You can't really get away from that. Personally, I'd rather have a pro who looks out for my interests then some amateur who will screw up for years before they know what they are doing.

If I have to go to a hospital, I want a doctor for life to fix me up, not an amateur with a fresh perspective. Same goes for my auto mechanic, teachers, and pretty much everything else.

I don't know where everyone got the idea that being a senator/governor was a job that pretty much anyone can walk in off the street and be good at doing, but I don't think that is true.
 

desert dude

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Anyone elected Senator is from that point on a politician for life. You can't really get away from that. Personally, I'd rather have a pro who looks out for my interests then some amateur who will screw up for years before they know what they are doing.

If I have to go to a hospital, I want a doctor for life to fix me up, not an amateur with a fresh perspective. Same goes for my auto mechanic, teachers, and pretty much everything else.

I don't know where everyone got the idea that being a senator/governor was a job that pretty much anyone can walk in off the street and be good at doing, but I don't think that is true.
True, they are entrenched the moment they are elected. That is why it is my personal policy to always vote anti-incumbent. I don't compare politics to normal life. I want a skilled doctor, mechanic, and pot gardener, but politics is different. To be a good politician all it takes is average intelligence and determination to act in the best interests of the community as a whole; this country was started by a bunch of amateur politicians and they did pretty well. Babs has Babs' best interests at heart.

Babs is terrible on the drug war. She opposes P19, as do all the major Democrat and Republican candidates in CA this year. Vote her out.
 
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