Jackson shop raided last night?

Xub420 said:
yup..out here, i pass 3 liquor stores to drop my kid off at school. One shop is about 3/4 mile from the school, and its a PROBLEM????? WTF! So cigs and alcohol and frickin spice! Thats all good or do people just turn the blind eye, because they drink and smoke???? I think its ridiculous also. The same requirements should be held upon the liqour stores also.
I agree that we should not be near schools, maybe a mile or so. And yeah these tightwads need to smoke a fatty every now and then....
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I disagree. I think it's fine by a school. it's on the owner of the establishment to be vigilant in his effort to only allow legal patients on premise. bilboards with absolute glorification of alcohol are within sight of my kids school. There is a popular bar right by the highschool. the plaza it is in is named for the school mascot even. I don't want this to be a hidden secret club for the sake of my kids. a teenager especially (mine are still young but I'm a forward thinker) is going to be drawn to the secret adult things we try and hide from them. they are interested far more in the unadvertised adults only places. I don't want a daycare IN the dispensary to watch kids while I vape but I don't want to explain that daddy does this AWFUL thing that you should never do either. I fear that hiding will glorify it for the older kids and for the younger kids-they aren't dumb; lying to them discredits me as a parent and resource for them to go to with questions. I'm sick of hiding my pot while we watch TV that shows them bud light will get you 2 ladies on your arm and a great wild time in vegas. it's skewing the right and wrong and like I said discrediting me to them because I hide and try to lie when they are smart enough to see the real truth. My 7 year old isn't going to think all of a sudden that I'm a monster because I smoke pot-I'm dad. Dad should be honest. dad shouldn't hide things. dad should always shoot straight. I see your point that we all want to protect our kids but let's do it with powerful truth and knowledge and not hiding. a greeen cross and a leaf across from a school will do no damage until I lie about what it is and what it stands for. My lie would be damaging.
 
woodsmantoker said:
The law is vague regarding "case" that meds must travel in, although it is clearly without wording about locks thus "case" is a loose definition that could include most anything (not legal advice!). It does say in trunk, but also mentions vehicles without and that in those situations, the "case" must be out of access to those in the interior of the vehicle.
Another few things that were mentioned: Usable Marijuana, means dry. Label your meds accordingly. Dry leaf is usable and regardless of common belief, will count against your limit. The new proposed bill, would changes a few things about medibles. The amount of medication inside must be labeled, but then does not count against your limit. Go figure... Also, provisioning centers have "agents" as employees. Those "agents" do not need to be a card holder what so ever.. Testing facilities will be a part of this. Local municipalities can opt to control "safety" by requiring testing, and for what. The test facilities can be run by non card holders.
(close business for the little guy, open the door for anyone with money, allow locals to call the shots) got it?
Let there be no question about my stance. I am a patient, and all sorts of fucked up. (Sorry I don't often swear). But the war on drugs is the real crime against humanity here that needs a fix. I do support legalization over this bill.

If it matters: It was also said that according to Jorge Cervantes, 15% moisture is ideal smoking material, and the definition of dry is "without moisture". Who judges "dry" is anyones guess. Maybe the judge, maybe the jury. In my situations, an officer would have to tamper with evidence to remove the label that says WET / UNUSABLE, and the humidity guage proving it.
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I asked that question LOL, in case you remember-now it's like we met. :)
 
I stongly believe our entire drug war was wrong, but requiring places of medication to be "not near a school" sends the wrong message to our children. (such as the cute cartoon pot leaf with hand cuffs on, that is a bill board in Jackson County. (the new bill would also limit provisioning centers from advertising on radio, tv, or billboards).

Educate your children, thats how you keep them safe.

I was that tourette ticking child in cuffs over cannabis use... Scared and confused; but now educated and commited to my own childs well being.
 
One thing that just doesn't fit is, how do new caregivers and new patients get started growing legally with p2p being illegal. With p2p illegal there is no legal way for anyone to obtain seeds or clones to get started with. P2p needs to be addressed just as much as dispensaries do...
 
Huel, seeds are open season. They are explicitly exempt from being considered a marijuana product in the act. clones...those are fucked. they don't even need roots to be counted as plants. BUT you can hold and transfer as many seeds as you like. I belive that question was asked and answered pretty much just like that-seeds aren't marijuana not meds not anything. can't count as weight so they are in a grey area LOL-like it's all so black and white otherwise.
 
^^^ You right on as far as I am aware.
Immaculate conception. (Alaska is this way)
It also threw out the Michigan Medical Marijuana Act's reciprocity portion considering its legal for a visiting patient to obtain medication while in Michigan, though its now ILLEGAL for anyone to give it to that patient...
 
They are little boys that I have and the questions they ask HOLY SHIT pot is the least of my worries man! Honest answers to where do babies come from and why is my penis getting so big when I mess with it and why can't I be naked when there is company over and what does my butthole look like, if I eat poop will the farts smell like food and OH MY GAWD the questions I have to answer straight faced! LOL I love these little monsters but DAMN!
 
Cory and trevor said:
Huel, seeds are open season. They are explicitly exempt from being considered a marijuana product in the act. clones...those are fucked. they don't even need roots to be counted as plants. BUT you can hold and transfer as many seeds as you like. I belive that question was asked and answered pretty much just like that-seeds aren't marijuana not meds not anything. can't count as weight so they are in a grey area LOL-like it's all so black and white otherwise.
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One thing you might want to consider. If the seeds are for sale, they are no longer 'incidental' they are product.

Dr. Bob
 
Not absolute, but something you have to be concerned about if you are doing commercial sales of seeds. I am not aware of prosecutions for it yet, but keep your eye out for them.

At first it was calling the doctor in to court to defend patients- thus discouraging them from doing the certs to avoid taking time off to go through the motions. Now the latest is trying to charge doctors with felonies for writing certs, or threatening them with a charge on the stand. This little trick with the seeds is nothing compared to that. They are trying to stop certifications and thus shut down the program.

Dr. Bob
 
Cory and trevor said:
I disagree. I think it's fine by a school. it's on the owner of the establishment to be vigilant in his effort to only allow legal patients on premise. bilboards with absolute glorification of alcohol are within sight of my kids school. There is a popular bar right by the highschool. the plaza it is in is named for the school mascot even. I don't want this to be a hidden secret club for the sake of my kids. a teenager especially (mine are still young but I'm a forward thinker) is going to be drawn to the secret adult things we try and hide from them. they are interested far more in the unadvertised adults only places. I don't want a daycare IN the dispensary to watch kids while I vape but I don't want to explain that daddy does this AWFUL thing that you should never do either. I fear that hiding will glorify it for the older kids and for the younger kids-they aren't dumb; lying to them discredits me as a parent and resource for them to go to with questions. I'm sick of hiding my pot while we watch TV that shows them bud light will get you 2 ladies on your arm and a great wild time in vegas. it's skewing the right and wrong and like I said discrediting me to them because I hide and try to lie when they are smart enough to see the real truth. My 7 year old isn't going to think all of a sudden that I'm a monster because I smoke pot-I'm dad. Dad should be honest. dad shouldn't hide things. dad should always shoot straight. I see your point that we all want to protect our kids but let's do it with powerful truth and knowledge and not hiding. a greeen cross and a leaf across from a school will do no damage until I lie about what it is and what it stands for. My lie would be damaging.
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Right on C&T!! I refuse to act like marijuana is some horrible monster to my children. I don't sit and blow smoke rings in their face, but I also don't hide the fact that their dad is a patient and caregiver, and what I'm doing is helping me and others. Weed will not have some ridiculous stigma attached to it in my house.
 
Cory and trevor said:
Last night at mr. able's meeting he read the new bill and explained it very well and it has a grandfathering in it that anyone who acting in accordance with the new law would be allowed to be included. it didn't specify with or without charges prior to its instatement. I did not ask that specific question though. I think the only thing I heard that would limit operators was violent felonies. it was specific to operating under the new bill prior to its instatement. I think that includes all current owners being granfathered in. As explained it seemed a good bill, the things that were not good were easily worked around like the 2.5 ounces every 10 days for a patient....go to a different one within the 10 days if you need more again before the 10 days is up. I heard ABle's name before and I have seen him on pro cannabis shows but didn't make the connection until today that he is one in the same. I was kind of star struck LOL, been a fan for a while and it was awesome to hear him speak. Even if some local bar drunks were inturupting and being kind of douches.
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wish i knew you were there!! would have been cool to meet you
 
Wow doc, threadcrash much LOL. I like you bob but sometimes I think you might stir the pot some. OK so it's "an item for sale" but an item expressly stated as not medicine in the act. As a doctor, can't you say with truth and certainty that it's not medicine and has no medical value or use? So the act says it doesn't count as weight, no doctor in their right mind would call it usable medicine and it's not a plant, I see how it's stated as not illegal, I still don't see how it becomes illegal all of a sudden when it's transfered (sale, wtf ever, all the same in court now) help me see that. I see how a bucket of trimmings could by magic of prosecutor trickery they could become "cuttings" and even without roots "plants" in the eyes of the law but I can't follow your jump to illegal seeds from sale of seed. And I really can't see how a seed discussion comes to doctors getting boned by the courts and prosecutors.
 
Well hell folks, if things get really stupid we could all pack up and head to Alaska! The pot needs a stir there eh Bob! I know the woods kinda good ;) Ill guide!
 
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