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Flaming Pie
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Why can't growers just buy seeds from attitude or herbies?
Figong
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Whatcha cookin'? Brownies?Well hell folks, if things get really stupid we could all pack up and head to Alaska! The pot needs a stir there eh Bob! I know the woods kinda goodIll guide!
Huel Perkins
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They definitely need better clarification of seed or cutting transfers. Above and beyond all they need to make non-profit transfers between all patients and caregivers legal. I don't see any good reason I can't give out free clones or meds to other caregivers or patients in need.
Cory and trevor
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cuttings are plants are illegal to transfer. That is what matt able said last night. seeds....grey as the michigan sky
st0wandgrow
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So ridiculous! No dispensaries to buy meds from now, so what is a patient to do now that is faced with the prospect of growing their own meds? Starting from a rooted clone is pretty easy. Most of the work has been done for you. Having to acquire, germinate, sex, and phenotype-hunt with seeds is going to be a tough task for a new grower.
DemonTrich
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so how would I (as a current pat) get the clones i need to start my grow when i decide its time to change from pat to cg...legally? i dont want to start from seed, but by clone.
Bigtacofarmer
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That my line of thought. I'm sick of it really. I have never showed any shame for my use of cannabis. For being "legal" it messes with you right to drive, to bear arms, it restricts where you can carry medicine, who you can share with or sell too. Now they even want to add how much you can purchase? Bullshit really! Its a plant, a safe one at that. I don't see why they are so concern with who can sell it to who, if they actually gave a fuck about it as medicine they would be trying to regulate quality of product and making sure everything is up to medical standards. They are only concerned with making sure no one is able to treat what they do out of love as a career choice!
Figong
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If you mention it in the Michigan Patients section when you're ready/mostly setup, and ask for people to mail you about it if any know of a place.. you may find a few that are willing to give you a few to get you started, or they'd be very low cost - those who medicate due to health issues, and the RIU group as a whole (save a few headache users) are quite understanding of the hardships / headache associated with obtaining clones in a state that wants to half-ass the legislation, and not at least decriminalize it to make progress forward like Colorado has.
Dr. Bob
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How it all ties in is that it is tricks prosecutors use to try and get a conviction. Thought that was clear. Just pointing out the argument. Hopefully you saw the point as to why something that normally would be considered inconsequential becomes consequential because you are selling it separately as a product in itself. And no, you don't need to get a 3/4 majority to make that argument.
What are cannabis seeds considered under the public health code? Cannabis. The MMMA considers them disposable incidental trim until you sell them on their own. Trim to be thrown out is incidental. Trim you purchase by the bag to make oil is marijuana. All comes down to intent.
Dr. Bob
DemonTrich
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fig, that post was maily about how to aquire clones, legally. as a P, its illegal, untill i change my state designation from P to CG. but there a 21 day grace priod where your in "limbo". thats what i was referring to. and im sure i can inquire to a few great growers on here about obtaining clones for my grow when im ready. as soon as this fvckin electrician stops blowing me off. 5 days in a row 
Figong
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Patients can't acquire clones to grow their own, only caregivers can in Michigan? Wow, I must have misread something in the documents that were floating around.. unless you're speaking specifically of the grace period - in which case... I'd say be extremely careful or wait it out. I am not a lawyer, nor do I claim to be. There may be a translation that you may find favorable in the way the law reads though.fig, that post was maily about how to aquire clones, legally. as a P, its illegal, untill i change my state designation from P to CG. but there a 21 day grace priod where your in "limbo". thats what i was referring to. and im sure i can inquire to a few great growers on here about obtaining clones for my grow when im ready. as soon as this fvckin electrician stops blowing me off. 5 days in a row
Huel Perkins
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Is CG to CG even legal??? I thought under the new ruling that any transfer whatsoever that isn't between a caregiver and their state registered patient is illegal.fig, that post was maily about how to aquire clones, legally. as a P, its illegal, untill i change my state designation from P to CG. but there a 21 day grace priod where your in "limbo". thats what i was referring to. and im sure i can inquire to a few great growers on here about obtaining clones for my grow when im ready. as soon as this fvckin electrician stops blowing me off. 5 days in a row
DemonTrich
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any transfer to anyone NOT in your designation is illegal.
fig, im talking about me going from a P status to a C status. which will happen in a month or so. theres a 21 days legal limbo before i could legally possess plants. but then that will put me 21 days behind my grow, and will exhaust ALL my medicine. which in turn would force me to seek meds form my old C (who btw is NOT my legal C any longer due to my current C status) and is now illegal for me to buy from him or anyone else for that matter. its a catch 22 if i run out of meds, thanks to the law makers. see my point.
fig, im talking about me going from a P status to a C status. which will happen in a month or so. theres a 21 days legal limbo before i could legally possess plants. but then that will put me 21 days behind my grow, and will exhaust ALL my medicine. which in turn would force me to seek meds form my old C (who btw is NOT my legal C any longer due to my current C status) and is now illegal for me to buy from him or anyone else for that matter. its a catch 22 if i run out of meds, thanks to the law makers. see my point.
Figong
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Yup, definitely see your point and there should be provision that was also put in with this change, since they wanted to get retarded and not take into account the well-being of those who happen to need medicinal mj to handle the pain and other issues, seeing as they -do- have the card legitimately.
DemonTrich
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i could max my med out at 2.5oz when i start my grow. then start the grow (w/ beans as securing clones or plants is ILLEGAL from other C's per the new dumb ass law). then that puts me at 45 days to veg, 30 days to flower, 3 weeks to cure, total of 95 weeks untill my meds are ready to smoke. 2.5 oz might last me a month or 2. LOL good job politicians, way to FAIL!!!!!!
Figong
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Wow, was going to ask if you were trying for a 20ft Afghani until I re-read.. spotted the '95 weeks until my meds are ready' then figured you were typing while frustrated, and mental gear changed and you swapped out a word.. lol
DemonTrich
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lol, sorry meant days.
Rising Moon
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30 days to flower?
Good luck with that...
Good luck with that...
DemonTrich
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obviously those were just numbers to show an example of the time it take from bean/clone to harvest to "stay" in the paramiters of being legal in the new catch 22 laws.