January 6th hearings on Trump's failed insurrection.

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A Chilling Portrait Of T****'s Attempt To Steal The Election By Weaponizing The DOJ
1,079,821 views Jun 24, 2022 Today the Jan. 6th Committee painted a chilling and criminally insane portrait of the former president's attempt to steal the election by weaponizing the Department of Justice.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Cut off the bullshit that drives and directs their delusions, while stoking their fear, the crazy and stupid are confused and when people get confused they often become angry. You can censor the truth or bury it in bullshit, both are equally effective as evidenced by America and Russia. America buries the truth for the vulnerable and bigoted under a mountain of "alternative facts" and spin, Russia does that too and censors the news. The difference is in America, bigotry removes the choice and in Russia the government does, helped a lot by bigotry too.
a lot of the bullhsit that drives this insanity is on social media...which has been pretty hard to police so far. the same laws that guarantee you the right to free speech also make it difficult to choose who is worthy of censorship, and who is simply expressing their right to free speech. some of it is obvious, and some of it is insidious shit that looks harmless at first glance...how many people are we supposed to assign to policing all media? what authority do we give them? who supervises them, to make sure they aren't abusing that authority?
the answer to the problem is obvious, the big red devil is in the details
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Joe: January 6 Hearings About As Compelling As Anything Since Watergate
57,611 views Jun 24, 2022 The Morning Joe panel recaps the key takeaways of Day Five of the January 6 Committee hearings, which showed Trump wanted DOJ to promote his interests.
i wonder how long it will be till Mika gets pissed about Joe cutting her off and taking over? i know it's his show, but he just talks over her in mid sentence half the time...i would eventually smack him off his chair and walk out....
 

DIY-HP-LED

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a lot of the bullhsit that drives this insanity is on social media...which has been pretty hard to police so far. the same laws that guarantee you the right to free speech also make it difficult to choose who is worthy of censorship, and who is simply expressing their right to free speech. some of it is obvious, and some of it is insidious shit that looks harmless at first glance...how many people are we supposed to assign to policing all media? what authority do we give them? who supervises them, to make sure they aren't abusing that authority?
the answer to the problem is obvious, the big red devil is in the details
Well there are a lot of good ideas out there that can be put on the table and discussed. The algorithms on social media and YouTube promote some things and suppress other things already. What are other countries doing about this problem? Those with functioning liberal democracies?

A house divided cannot stand, people are being divided by made up trivial issues designed for profit and power. There are plenty of legitimate things to disagree on, but they are based on truth not lies and real problems, not bullshit issues whipped up by a wealthy right wing cabal using hate radio networks and foxnews. The public owns the airwaves and signals going down wires and can regulate, total free private speech applies to parks, soap boxes, the press and YouTube manifestos that nobody watches.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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i wonder how long it will be till Mika gets pissed about Joe cutting her off and taking over? i know it's his show, but he just talks over her in mid sentence half the time...i would eventually smack him off his chair and walk out....
Joe represents old republicans, before they went nuts and he brings a rightwing perspective to the show as do many of the guests. I post this and other things sometimes to demonstrate the public reaction to events, at least the public with enough brains to apprehend the danger the republicans represent.

They have a domestic terrorist wing FFS that congressional republicans protect, a simple problem solved by domestic terrorist laws and a watch list with no gun and no fly. They will not pass any domestic terrorism laws to protect election workers because they depend on terrorism to win elections now. Drive out the good election people with death threats and harassment, then replace them with radical fascist fanatics on the state and local level. That's how I see it. The republicans are a terrorist organization with a political wing and J6 was just one manifestation of the monster they have become. They are a clear and present danger to the constitution, even the ones who upheld it, said they would vote for Trump again, presumably so he could finish off America.
 

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Detailing Crimes May Have Discouraged Trump From Pardons
474,511 views Jun 24, 2022 An MSNBC panel looks at the members of Congress who were revealed by the January 6th Committee to have asked for pardons from Donald Trump for their role in his effort to negate his election loss, and considers the possibility that listing the crimes being pardoned was not something Trump was comfortable doing.
 

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i wonder how long it will be till Mika gets pissed about Joe cutting her off and taking over? i know it's his show, but he just talks over her in mid sentence half the time...i would eventually smack him off his chair and walk out....
I've never been bothered by Morning Joe. Of course, I've never watched him either.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Sen. Whitehouse On GOP Requests For Trump Pardons: ‘This Is Not Normal’
129,705 views Jun 24, 2022 Judiciary Cmte. Democrat Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse joins MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell to react to the Jan. 6th Select Cmte. evidence showing at least six GOP House members sought pardons from Donald Trump during his final days in office.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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it must really be love...
He has a band and plays guitar too, she was on the show for years with him before they were married. I think the talking over her is part of the act, most couples watching have the same issues! They interview the journalists who break the stories the day before. He knows and is related to many Trumpers and knows how they think, but is not honest about their racism and bigotry or the hypocritical nature of their religious "faith". I guess if he was honest about it, he like so many others would lose family over the lies. That is another thing Trump did with his lies, divided families and set them on one another, if it isn't a crime, it should be.

 

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Arizona GOP Chair Kelli Ward, Husband Subpoenaed Over Alternate Electors
Arizona GOP Chair Kelli Ward and her husband, Michael Ward, were both subpoenaed by the Department of Justice Thursday for their alleged involvement in a plan to send alternate electors to Congress on Jan. 6, 2021, reports Politico.

The pair were among several pro-Trump activists who signed certificates claiming to be duly elected and qualified electors from Trump and Arizona.

The investigation stems from a notarized document sent to the National Archives in Washington, D.C., in December 2020, by a group of 11 Arizona Republicans who claimed to represent the "sovereign citizens of the Great State of Arizona" casting votes for a second term for former President Donald Trump and Vice President Mike Pence.

"This is an investigation based on allegations that our clients engaged in core First Amendment-protected activity, specifically, petitioning Congress for redress of grievances," said Alexander Kolodin, an attorney for the Wards.

The House Select Committee investigating the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol previously subpoenaed the Wards' phone records.

Kelli Ward was also subpoenaed for testimony and documents by the House Select Committee in February.

A CNN report said two others involved in the effort, Nancy Cottle and Loraine Pellegrino, who signed the false elector document as chair and secretary, also received subpoenas.

The House committee in a televised hearing Tuesday laid out plans by former Trump and his allies to deliver an alternate set of electors to former Pence ahead of the counting and certification of the presidential election during a joint session of Congress.
 

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Jordan Klepper Confronts Clueless Trumpers With Jan. 6 Hearing Clips

One of the biggest questions surrounding the January 6th committee hearings this month is whether Donald Trump’s most loyal supporters would even tune in, let alone be open to seeing him in a new light. Only The Daily Show’s Jordan Klepper had the idea to bring the hearings to them.

In his latest dispatch from MAGA country, Klepper traveled to a Trump rally in Mississippi to first find out whether anyone waiting to get in had been watching the hearings and then play them some of the most damning clips on an iPad and see what they made of them.

Unsurprisingly, he couldn’t find anyone who had been watching the proceedings, and that included one woman in a red Trump visor who was demanding an “investigation” to prove her theory that Nancy Pelosi was behind the insurrection.

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Another pair of young women didn’t even know what Klepper was talking about when he mentioned January 6th. “Election Day?” one of them asked. They seemed similarly unfamiliar with the term “insurrection.”

Klepper began by showing Trump supporters the clip of Trump’s former attorney general Bill Barr calling “bullshit” on claims of a stolen election. Their only explanation for his decision to “turn on” Trump is that he was being paid to lie.

How ‘Daily Show’ Contributor Jordan Klepper Became the King of Humiliating Trump Fans

He then asked the same women who knew nothing about January 6th if they “trust” Ivanka Trump. When they said yes, he showed them the video of her agreeing with Barr’s assessment. After he slowly explained to them what they had just seen, they just were not willing—or able—to see the “Big Lie” for what it is.

“That doesn’t even look like her,” another man responded. “What do they got, clones out there these days? That might be a clone!”

“It’s almost like you’re confronted with it and your brain does somersaults to figure out, there must be some other reason!” Klepper replied with a laugh.

Does not like the picture either but when I edit it the picture shows up. I am so confused.

Found it.

 
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DIY-HP-LED

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Jordan Klepper Confronts Clueless Trumpers With Jan. 6 Hearing Clips

One of the biggest questions surrounding the January 6th committee hearings this month is whether Donald Trump’s most loyal supporters would even tune in, let alone be open to seeing him in a new light. Only The Daily Show’s Jordan Klepper had the idea to bring the hearings to them.

In his latest dispatch from MAGA country, Klepper traveled to a Trump rally in Mississippi to first find out whether anyone waiting to get in had been watching the hearings and then play them some of the most damning clips on an iPad and see what they made of them.

Unsurprisingly, he couldn’t find anyone who had been watching the proceedings, and that included one woman in a red Trump visor who was demanding an “investigation” to prove her theory that Nancy Pelosi was behind the insurrection.

(video unavailable in Canada)


Another pair of young women didn’t even know what Klepper was talking about when he mentioned January 6th. “Election Day?” one of them asked. They seemed similarly unfamiliar with the term “insurrection.”

Klepper began by showing Trump supporters the clip of Trump’s former attorney general Bill Barr calling “bullshit” on claims of a stolen election. Their only explanation for his decision to “turn on” Trump is that he was being paid to lie.

How ‘Daily Show’ Contributor Jordan Klepper Became the King of Humiliating Trump Fans

He then asked the same women who knew nothing about January 6th if they “trust” Ivanka Trump. When they said yes, he showed them the video of her agreeing with Barr’s assessment. After he slowly explained to them what they had just seen, they just were not willing—or able—to see the “Big Lie” for what it is.

“That doesn’t even look like her,” another man responded. “What do they got, clones out there these days? That might be a clone!”

“It’s almost like you’re confronted with it and your brain does somersaults to figure out, there must be some other reason!” Klepper replied with a laugh.

Does not like the picture either but when I edit it the picture shows up. I am so confused.

Found it.

These people paid between $4K and $9 K for a carnival show, they should pay a Japanese robotics firm to make them a RoboDonald to speak at the events. Seriously the rubes wouldn't know or care, maybe something for after he goes to prison, a virtual Donald could tour the south with a carnival traveling to the various county fairs...
 

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Lawyer says one major event makes it more likely Trump could face charges
280,273 views Jun 25, 2022 Constitutional lawyer Page Pate says that former President Trump could face charges after the Department of Justice obtained a search warrant for the home of Jeffrey Clark, a top DOJ official in Trump's administration.
 
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