JigFresh's Grow #2 : Vertical Scrog - closet diy dwc - 650w - Headband + Casey Jones

robotninja

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I was thinking of starting another journal for the soil part, but figured that would double my work or something... would it be confusing to do everything here? What do you guys think?

I'll probably stick with one journal. Only wish I could change the title to reflect the new circumstances.

I wish you all could come over tonight and blaze one with me... the house is nice and clean, the cat's are relaxed, a slight breeze in the air. I love you guys, it's just a bummer we don't live on the same street. (man that would be one 'high' street)

:peace:
Sweet, I'm gonna try and grow a couple in dirt as well but have no knowledge in soil grows. I'll just watch yours and go from there :mrgreen:

Jig you da man. Gotta swing by bigbear with a big ole blunt of some blackberry :eyesmoke:
 

bigjesse1922

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Do I need a soil pH meter... I figure measureing pH of water going in... and measureing pH of run-off would be good enough for this round... what you guys think?
You don't want to simply ph the run off.

Ideally, get youtself a ph test kit that allows you to ph the solution (water or feed) before you ever give it to them.

Since this is your first soil grow, I would suggest a soil ph meter as well.


Did I buy the right stuff?
Yes sir. I am stoked for ya!

So what is the plan? Where is this grow taking place? In the same closet I doubt, right?

Male sure you cut down the FFOF with the Perlite substantially. I would use a 1:1 ratio if I were you, to ensure proper drainage. More details on the plan?
 

jigfresh

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I'm looking forward to it too Dr. G.

don... I already have the molasses and was planning on using that... I'll check out the goodies when I'm picking up my soil ph meter. Thanks for the info. I'm going to check your grow after this post (don't know what my problem is not seeing it before).

Robot... I knew someone would be the lucky beneficiary of the soil info I'm about to get.... Glad it get's to be you bro.

You don't want to simply ph the run off.

Ideally, get youtself a ph test kit that allows you to ph the solution (water or feed) before you ever give it to them.
That was the plan to adjust and test the water/ feed before it goes in. Then test the run off as well.

I have my ph/ ppm meter from my hydro... I can use that right... it's not different or anything, is it?

Since this is your first soil grow, I would suggest a soil ph meter as well.
I'll pick one up next time. They are relatively cheap if I remember correctly.

So what is the plan? Where is this grow taking place? In the same closet I doubt, right?
Well, a normal person would assume this would take place in another space... but we shun normality here... it has it's place, but not in my house. So while using 2 spaces would be infinitely less work and headache... it would be too easy. Plus I would need more lights... and I only have 575 sq.ft. of house to work with. Make that 568 without my closet.

So the plan... as unmanageable as it sounds is to veg AND flower some small plants in these pots I have ALL WHILE THE OTHER ARE VEGGING. CRAZY :eyesmoke: :eyesmoke: :eyesmoke:

So yeah.... I guess I'm going to take them out each day and stick them in a cabinet or something. Then drop them back in for 12 hours of light. That being said they will be veged and flowered only under MH so we'll see how that works.

Any problems with this plan other than being a lot to remember?

I plan on setting them up, so aern't just sitting on the floor... I'd like to get them good light. I don't think the door is strong enough to hold them up... maybe it is. But I think I'll use a table type thing and set it where the floor is pretty open... then have the soil pots sitting right next to the door.... so I'll just pull them out to work on the screens.

Make sure you cut down the FFOF with the Perlite substantially. I would use a 1:1 ratio if I were you, to ensure proper drainage. More details on the plan?
I was almost sure I remembered you used around 50% soil and 50% perlite... I think you add extra fun-ness to your mix to, but anyways... I actually guessed/ remembered this correctly.

50/50 it will be.

Question about the holes at the bottom. They are like 1 inch square... maybe a bit more... is that normal, haha. I feel like such a noob. But yeah... do I need to lay a netting over them or somethng to keep the soil in? Hahaha. noob alert.

I'm excited. And I am only shooting for 2 ounces from these plants in maybe 3 months.

:peace:
 

bigjesse1922

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Everything sounds good!

Yeah, the drainage is fine. A small amount of soil may come out the bottom, its no prob.

Soil ph meters are cheap yes.

I am wondering how you are gonna juggle two grows in one room...
 

DorianGray

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What up jigs! Dude, going to soil? I never thought I would hear you say it. You can use your Ph meter from hydro to meause your feed. The FFOF stays stable at 6.1-6.3, FF says, and no nutes for at least three weeks. Its super easy, I think you'll have no problem managing these ladies with the others, they're too easy and always happy. Maybe just watch for mg/cal defs and the rest of your time will be spent smiling!
 

donkeyote

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ive read a couple people that put sphagnum peat moss in the bottom of their soil pots, it keeps the soil in, drains well, and also retains moisture, which the plants seem to appreciate in between waterings
 

bigjesse1922

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ive read a couple people that put sphagnum peat moss in the bottom of their soil pots, it keeps the soil in, drains well, and also retains moisture, which the plants seem to appreciate in between waterings
I have never found this neccessary.

In fact, I have started adding vermiculite to my soil. Ideally, your container will have such good drainage that it dries out every 2 days, allowing for more frequent waterings, yet fully warranted.

I have seen amazing results so far. I have even been toying with the idea of doing a soil-less perlite/vermiculite grow (aka, hempy bucket, 75,25%, respectively).

I have to admit, the more organic things are, the harder they are to control, which is something that goes against our nature as indoor growers. We have to rely on "critters," as GB would say, to convert our ferts to something the plant can use.

Anyways, done babbling. Jig, get yourself dolamite lime. 1 tablespoon per gallon of soil/perlite mix. It is a must IMO for a stress-less soil grow. Also consider a $20 bottle of Root Zone. Local hydro store should carry it. 18 benefical bacteria and fungi.
 

neversummer28

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yo jigs... i'm baaaaack. sorry man, took a short hiatus... busy at work, took a few short trips and spending a lot of free time building my grow box. but man, i just caught up on your journal and hooooly... i'm lovin what i'm seeing. as for the journals... i say just keep them in 1 for now and if it doesn't work out, go with two. either way, you know you'll have a crowd of us following behind you.

so wait one minute... you're a dodgers fan? looks like our teams might have a chance meeting in the playoffs... ;)
 

Hulk Nugs

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hey jig not sure if you told us already but was wondering are you going to pull some clones off your plants your already have or buy new ones for the soil ?? hows the room running for you...........anything you have thought of that would have made it better ?? been working on my room ooo shit cant wait lmao i hope to be growing soon

at homde depot i got a soil meter for like 8 bucks if that does more then just ph to test the moister in the soil and other shit i will try to find a link and come back and edit it in..... woo hoo found it, well it worked for me HoldAll Moisture, Light and PH Meter
 

jigfresh

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Hey boys... great to see everyone.

I'm in a rush so I'll make a proper update probably tomorrow.

I made some more adjustments and finally tied the girls up.

Thanks for the help and interest guys.
 

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Hulk Nugs

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Hey boys... great to see everyone.

I'm in a rush so I'll make a proper update probably tomorrow.

I made some more adjustments and finally tied the girls up.

Thanks for the help and interest guys.
not being mean well not trying to be .............. your in a rush ?? and your still on tis tis bet the wife is waiting for you shes going to be a sleep by the time you get there :lol:


Idea - just hit me you cold put drawer brackets on the floor with wood bla bla and then you would have a floor that the buckets sit on and it can slide in and out of the closet get were i am going with this!!! just saw your pics and was thinking it was a pain to move those with allot of water plus once they get bigger shit can we say heavy
 

jigfresh

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Gonna be another kickass grow jig...stay fresh
Hey miztaj... good to see you buddy.

Question: I just bought my soil clones... they are in rockwool just like all the others I've ever got...

Do I just drop them right into the soil? Do I try to remove the rockwool some? I don't know... more noob questions. I feel like a goon.

I'm running in the morning to the hydro store for: Bottle of Root Zone, Dolamite Lime, Soil pH meter - - Water pump, and some panda film.

WOOO HOOO... I LOVE GROWING.

oh... and fellas... don't think I don't love you just becuase I haven't given you an update. I swear it's been hectic around the moutain resort lately.

:peace:
 

tahoe58

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I have done it both ways ... leaving in the cube and slicing the cube like an apple and peeling out the plants and roots ..... I'm sure someone with additional experience will pipe in but both ways worked similarly for me. Walk on!~~:eyesmoke:
Hey miztaj... good to see you buddy.

Question: I just bought my soil clones... they are in rockwool just like all the others I've ever got...

Do I just drop them right into the soil? Do I try to remove the rockwool some? I don't know... more noob questions. I feel like a goon.

I'm running in the morning to the hydro store for: Bottle of Root Zone, Dolamite Lime, Soil pH meter - - Water pump, and some panda film.

WOOO HOOO... I LOVE GROWING.

oh... and fellas... don't think I don't love you just becuase I haven't given you an update. I swear it's been hectic around the moutain resort lately.

:peace:
 
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