Just Thought I'd Throw Up Some Pics of Where I'm at Right Now

Words of wisdom brother.

thanks doc all appreciated large and small when on E

its good to know sumone else likes to give to

there is so many that just like to recieve an dont give

one of the biggest giver i knew was keven murphey i miss him


but i could not find yo addy i did find yo e-mail addy si sent Bill that

i hope it helps


again thanks you are a good person

so once my likle seedlings reach the top of the cup then i top off wit soil to right below rim



then the newly submerged part of trunk starts to grow roots - at this stage i always ad sum water right down the
base of the plant to stimulate root growth - i also use a lot rot stimulation - oh i left out micro from my seedlings meds no actual food yet not ready

and the things i use is just a drop or two to a gallon of water is mostly water



I an I

Dwezelitsame said:

so once my likle seedlings reach the top of the cup then i top off wit soil to right below rim

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That's wassup Dweze! Seems like solid idea! You ever have any issue with dampening off?

whut exactly is dat

so im gona say no to dat dont even know whut it is an dont care to know


i use about four was to germ and cant say ive ever met dampening off

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since 420 -
i have never had this problem but it seems that im asking for trouble doing whut im doing

thanks

October 4, 2002
Comments OffPests & Disease Seeds


[h=2]Seed Starting – Damping Off[/h]Guest post by Beate Schwirtlich
Seed Rot or ‘Damping Off’… What is damping off?
This gentle term describes the death of seedlings by fungal disease, either before or after they emerge from the pod. This sudden plant death can happen for up to four weeks after seeds are started. It actually describers a few different fungal diseases carried in soil or seed. These fungi can survive for years or forever in soil, and are found in all soil outdoors.
Causes:

• overwatering
• unsterile soil
• dirty growing containers
• overcrowding seedlings
• stress, such as low light, cool temperatures

Symptoms:

• Seeds don’t germinate: they may have rotted underground
• Sudden wilting or discolouration
• seedling falls over: stem bends at soil level
• roots of diseased plant are black or brown

Prevention:

• Clean growing conditions.
• Clean containers yearly
• use sterile soil mixes.
• Water seedlings from the bottom of their containers
• Avoid overwatering
• Don’t plant seeds too deep
• Soil with a low pH: commercial starter mixes average 5.5 pH
• Good ventilation: moving air
• Use a soil-less starting mix, such as a peat moss/vermiculite mix. (This is not an environmentally friendly option, however, as peat moss is comes from sensitive bogs.)
• Plant seeds on soil, but cover with sand instead of soil.

Protect seedlings organically:

• Mist plants with either chamomile clove, or stinging nettle tea as a preventative. These herbal brews have known anti-fungal properties.
• A one-time dusting of cinnamon powder or powdered charcoal on the soil surface will also help prevent damping-off.
• Disinfect containers and tools with very hot water and biodegradable soap: this is the most environmentally conscious method. If you think you have a real problem with damping off, use one part bleach to four parts water, or a 70% solution of rubbing alcohol.

Confession of a lazy grower
I do only two things to prevent damping off: I avoid overwatering, and I provide good air circulation. My seedlings are doing fine

Amazing, no... surreal, yes.

Dwezelitsame said:

so once my likle seedlings reach the top of the cup then i top off wit soil to right below rim

View attachment 2502233View attachment 2502234

then the newly submerged part of trunk starts to grow roots - at this stage i always ad sum water right down the
base of the plant to stimulate root growth - i also use a lot rot stimulation - oh i left out micro from my seedlings meds no actual food yet not ready

and the things i use is just a drop or two to a gallon of water is mostly water



I an I

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I started doing the same thing with the last couple batches of seeds. There's no way of making a seedling not stretch no matter how much light you
beam down on them.

Dwezelitsame said:

since 420 -
i have never had this problem but it seems that im asking for trouble doing whut im doing

thanks

October 4, 2002
Comments OffPests & Disease Seeds


Seed Starting – Damping Off

Guest post by Beate Schwirtlich
Seed Rot or ‘Damping Off’… What is damping off?
This gentle term describes the death of seedlings by fungal disease, either before or after they emerge from the pod. This sudden plant death can happen for up to four weeks after seeds are started. It actually describers a few different fungal diseases carried in soil or seed. These fungi can survive for years or forever in soil, and are found in all soil outdoors.
Causes:

• overwatering
• unsterile soil
• dirty growing containers
• overcrowding seedlings
• stress, such as low light, cool temperatures

Symptoms:

• Seeds don’t germinate: they may have rotted underground
• Sudden wilting or discolouration
• seedling falls over: stem bends at soil level
• roots of diseased plant are black or brown

Prevention:

• Clean growing conditions.
• Clean containers yearly
• use sterile soil mixes.
• Water seedlings from the bottom of their containers
• Avoid overwatering
• Don’t plant seeds too deep
• Soil with a low pH: commercial starter mixes average 5.5 pH
• Good ventilation: moving air
• Use a soil-less starting mix, such as a peat moss/vermiculite mix. (This is not an environmentally friendly option, however, as peat moss is comes from sensitive bogs.)
• Plant seeds on soil, but cover with sand instead of soil.

Protect seedlings organically:

• Mist plants with either chamomile clove, or stinging nettle tea as a preventative. These herbal brews have known anti-fungal properties.
• A one-time dusting of cinnamon powder or powdered charcoal on the soil surface will also help prevent damping-off.
• Disinfect containers and tools with very hot water and biodegradable soap: this is the most environmentally conscious method. If you think you have a real problem with damping off, use one part bleach to four parts water, or a 70% solution of rubbing alcohol.

Confession of a lazy grower
I do only two things to prevent damping off: I avoid overwatering, and I provide good air circulation. My seedlings are doing fine

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It's all love Dweze.

I remember thinking about doing the same thing initially and then someone told me to be careful for dampening off. This was like 7 months ago...
Now-a-days I kinda do the same, ubt not as extreme I guess.

But I wait until it's first transplant, and then pot up to the cotyledons.
Ive not had any issue yet doing it that way...
But if you've never had issue your way, all is good and I think I'd try that over the way I've been doing it ya know.

I'm gonna "bite" your method lol and use it with my next seedling. Wont be for a couple months but still.....
I appreciate the idea at least!

t0rn said:

I started doing the same thing with the last couple batches of seeds. There's no way of making a seedling not stretch no matter how much light you
beam down on them.

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Hmmmmmmmm...I don't know about that one...I've yet to have a strechty seedling, and I've had a few who node structures were like too tight to F.I.M and top...
65k and 5k CFLs 2"max away at all time lol! Seems to work wonders for me

Sincerely420 said:

Hmmmmmmmm...I don't know about that one...I've yet to have a strechty seedling, and I've had a few who node structures were like too tight to F.I.M and top...
65k and 5k CFLs 2"max away at all time lol! Seems to work wonders for me

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Once you have nodes and true leaves growing the plant isn't really a seedling anymore. It's able to supply its own food. When a seedling has no leaves and just cotyldons to support cell growth then always stretch 4-6" out of the soil. Too many times have I had to support the little stalks of a seedling with a small stake and I've run into the problem to destroying the root system of a seedling by placing a stake through the roots.

yeah torn i have less of a problem the way i do it now
start at about 1/2 full then fill after seedlings rech to of cup
but thanks much

sin 420 thanks for input

i thought the ballast kit was fried - awire came aloose in handelimg separating parts - i had no wiring diagram and just picked a ne home for it - it poped an threw the breaker , i thought sumtin fried - so i got a replacment came wit a nice diagram for $65.00 - so i took the old one completly apart cause i did not member which wire i pladce - i am an old man - so i put them both together at same time ding three is the same as di-oing one - i tried the one i repaired first and walah - now i got a spare - but one day im gona take the old hps bulb out it can go wit dis bal - now that i have tken the all in apart an learned it is a 250w/400w ballast - illl be geting a 400w eye hortilux in its place

1Luv

That looks like a badass hood dude, you going to run 2 dif spectrums?

t0rn said:

Once you have nodes and true leaves growing the plant isn't really a seedling anymore. It's able to supply its own food. When a seedling has no leaves and just cotyldons to support cell growth then always stretch 4-6" out of the soil. Too many times have I had to support the little stalks of a seedling with a small stake and I've run into the problem to destroying the root system of a seedling by placing a stake through the roots.

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Hmmm....I haven't had the stretch yet unless you're meaning just a normal skinny seedling for the first week and a half maybe.
I'm with you on the plants transition from a seedling to a vegging plant..I say somewhere between week 2 and 3 for me they hit their stride.
And def. after that first transplant. But I've never had that stretch...Always had tight plants by keeping lights close, putting the fan w/ them after 7 days, and bending and tapping the stems occasionally.

I had to pull 3 from my most recent crop of seedlings totally outta the soil to transplant them becuase I knocked the solo cups over, but they're good at this point.
They're in my sig if you wanna see what I mean.
Never had to support a stalk either...But I've only gone thru about 11 seedlings at this point so who am I to start talking about what I've done lol...No one really but you get what I'm saying...I think a little training and keeping the lights close negates the issues your facing. That and putting that fan on them as soon as you can.
Bending and tapping the stems really helps...If you need some literature let me know. I can screenshot my ipad. Got the idea from the book Growing Elite Marijuana By Ryan Riley

yeah torn i been runnin 250w eye hortilux -hps an a 250w phillips -cmh for about 3 years now
i also add a uvb after flowers are on there way for like 1 1/2 to 2 hours mid day
my feelings that it helps if you are runnin lower wattages
but if you look back few pages you will see old set up was fukery to da max


this is bette organized
but will be the same for the rest of grow career
both spectrums - i expect to be changing to 400 an 250 watts
soon an one day two 400's

if you look at pic #3 can see the yellow lght an the cmh
but i have a polarizing filter on my camera
cuts both affects to camera


truff

i actually never have supported either
you have to do sumthing id rather do whut i do - i also do alittle of whut you do sin420
but i never supported 1 thing the 1/2 to full cups help

an like you said torn once you got leaves the bulbs are almost touching them
i use sumtimes flouresent sum time cfl sum times T'ssumtimes a combanation


truff

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my back on my mogul connector is like the vidio not like this pic an im glad for that

sup pops kewl lookin hood i like tht idea....aint got room for nuthin like tht atm barely squeezed my 400 in my lil closet dont hav the space i use to kinda sux.... oh well im makin do wth wht i got for now got a critical mass33 just came up gonna start a purple haze and a coupla og ghost train next week abt my limt sshxgdp comin along pretty good...take it lite pops keep up the good wrk