just tried dmt
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ANC
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just don't try to research the experience, it just adds baggage.
> just don't try to research the experience, it just adds baggage.
I'm of 2 minds on this. In most cases, research equals increased safety. But with psychedelics, it can prejudice and and affect the experience. So for those of you who know a little about DMT, and are about to start wandering, do NOT read the trip reports. Really.
You need to know the standard set and setting advice. You need to know that if you cross-over you will drop everything, so nothing that can start a fire should be held. You need to know that if you cross-over you will slump. If you are leaning over, you will crack your head on the corner of the coffee table. You need to know there is the possibility for explosive vomiting, so you should not have a full stomach.
You need to know that the chemical CANNOT hurt you directly. There is no such thing as an overdose, and that it will wear off very rapidly, and essentially be gone in 30 minutes.
You need to know there is a couple minutes of possible physical activity while you react to what you see as control of your body comes back. I was under the impression you can't hurt yourself since you can't move when you crossover. But when you come back, it is a different story. It might be a good idea to have pillows EVERYWHERE in the room. In my case I had a moment of overhead (inches away) fireworks kick off, and I DOVE down under the couch to avoid them hitting me. I blocked the steps that led up to the room I was in so I didn't fall down them. Don't have blind pathways for you to fall into.
No candles, no open flame, no fragile expensive stuff on glass shelves in the vicinity. A babysitter is a good idea. Not required after the 1st couple of times, but in the beginning, yes.
Did I miss anything of core generic point that won't alter the trip?
I'm of 2 minds on this. In most cases, research equals increased safety. But with psychedelics, it can prejudice and and affect the experience. So for those of you who know a little about DMT, and are about to start wandering, do NOT read the trip reports. Really.
You need to know the standard set and setting advice. You need to know that if you cross-over you will drop everything, so nothing that can start a fire should be held. You need to know that if you cross-over you will slump. If you are leaning over, you will crack your head on the corner of the coffee table. You need to know there is the possibility for explosive vomiting, so you should not have a full stomach.
You need to know that the chemical CANNOT hurt you directly. There is no such thing as an overdose, and that it will wear off very rapidly, and essentially be gone in 30 minutes.
You need to know there is a couple minutes of possible physical activity while you react to what you see as control of your body comes back. I was under the impression you can't hurt yourself since you can't move when you crossover. But when you come back, it is a different story. It might be a good idea to have pillows EVERYWHERE in the room. In my case I had a moment of overhead (inches away) fireworks kick off, and I DOVE down under the couch to avoid them hitting me. I blocked the steps that led up to the room I was in so I didn't fall down them. Don't have blind pathways for you to fall into.
No candles, no open flame, no fragile expensive stuff on glass shelves in the vicinity. A babysitter is a good idea. Not required after the 1st couple of times, but in the beginning, yes.
Did I miss anything of core generic point that won't alter the trip?
ANC
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thats kinda what I was trying to say, always important to know safety aspects.
P.S> That must have been one hell of a dose. I can normally take a 60mg hit, then immediately prepare and light up for whoever I was demonstrating for.
It is the only substance I've seen where the effect can wait for you to say, OK now. Also in my experience one doesn't tend to go straight through to breakthrough levels.
Its more of a route: the buildup-the expulsion/introversion - the fractal stage (during which you will still be aware of and in control of your body if you so chose) - and then the breakthrough which inhabits that strange world jusrt between sleep and wakefullness.
I have experienced my arms takeing on their own life, normally to music, as I start to come back.
For the experience I recommend straight on the carpet, with only a small pillow for your head, hands off the chest.
Bigtacofarmer
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Ok I've never had enough to break through, the small amount I've tried feels a lot like clean L that goes away in 10 minutes. It seems every time I have a chance to try some more I'm at a show or around a bunch a people I don't know. Not that its a problem, its just not how I vision doing it right. How come when I'm at red rocks and I can smell dmt every where I don't see a bunch of passed out kids, they are all up and dancing. Can you build up a tolerance, or learn to function. Or are all these people just not breaking though? I read both the Spirit Molecule and Inner Pathways to Outer Space and it say that some of the Shaman are special in that they are able to remain relatively in touch with both realities. Is it possible that modern day party kids may also? I've heard once you break through it doesn't matter as much where your at but I can't just tap myself out in a semi public place and expect to enjoy it. I know I would never enjoy salvia in a crowd, I barely like it with anyone around.
ANC
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Some people are extremely sensitive (gifted), I fall on the other side of the spectrum, I need to build up a tolerance to go big, and after that I can reduce dosage with same effect.
Its not only the dmt or thedosage that matters, how much you can switch off and fall into it has a far greater effect. If I literaly fall linto it asif I am trying to fall asleep after takeing 3 massive hits, I am gone for 45 minutes before the roof assumes its normal place and angle and everything stops being the wrong colours. What happens in between is an eternity.
Its not only the dmt or thedosage that matters, how much you can switch off and fall into it has a far greater effect. If I literaly fall linto it asif I am trying to fall asleep after takeing 3 massive hits, I am gone for 45 minutes before the roof assumes its normal place and angle and everything stops being the wrong colours. What happens in between is an eternity.
>> P.S> That must have been one hell of a dose.
Dunno. My extracts vary in purity. I usually will attempt to "standardise" a few together and then do a SMALL taster dose, and then a possible threshold. At that point up or down for the rest.
>> I can normally take a 60mg hit, then immediately prepare and light up for whoever I was demonstrating for.
Wait. You light your own. Hold it in. Lean over to someone else. Light their's?
And then go through an internally aware process? And then go into what you consider between sleep and awake?
Hmm.
Not me. not at all. Could not consider the level of control. Since "I" don't exist at that moment. Really. And this is NOTHING like any of the dream states I've ever been in. Nope. Not at all.
I'm here. The taste is kinda strong. BANG!
I'm there, usually with absolutely no recall how I got there. There may be described, but only at the surface level. And there is NEVER repeated, so the expectation of the next there does not exist.
Occasionally, when I am there, I realise how I got there. I don't remember the hit, but I conclude there is no other path. And at that moment, I OWN it. I am Mickey Mouse in Fantasia, with full sorcerer power. The stars dance for me as I wave my arms, the galaxies perform for my amusement. Note: I had NO arm movement in the real world, but I was in full conductor mode over there.
> I have experienced my arms takeing on their own life, normally to music, as I start to come back.
Ahh, this I have. I actually bought a low lux high end professional video camera to record the sessions for later review. Love Craig's list. No, all the tape are gone, this is for personal review. Air guitar own it's own is fun to watch.
ANC
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When I said some peopleare sensitive, I've dosed people with as little as 35mg for them to just get a feel for the fractal aspects of it, with no explanation or trip reports, i.e. blank canvases, and seen them totaly break through and have long conversations with unseen things.
I know what it feels like when the I no longer exists, I made a post about one such experience here somewhere once.
I know what it feels like when the I no longer exists, I made a post about one such experience here somewhere once.
ANC
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https://www.rollitup.org/hallucinatory-substances/307201-dmt-what-other-side.html
found it for you...
Namaste
found it for you...
Namaste
flowamasta
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Holy fuckin shit!!! i got myself some of the infamous 'dream drug' !! and oooohhhhh i ammm soooooooo happpyyyyy, never tried it ever, have tried other types of lsd..... my god DMT straight away, BANG!!! ZIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING.!!!! i had it laced with a bong of my trusted indoor, and it blew my head away, i cupped my head in my hands and saw a kalideoscope of colours spinning around, and swirls of coloured energy.... absolutely amazing, i cant explain, i'm in awwwwwe......gobsmacked....my first go, i didnt even go for the 2 packed pipe, no way, i wouldn't of been able to hold it! wow, after the initial buzz and keleidacope of colors i looked around the room and everything looks 3d, i can't move, i was stunned, mesmerized...
insssssssssane!!! 1 laced bong, and i was soo close to feeling like 'nearly there' to breaking over, next time i will force a second pipe, and try to go further
insssssssssane!!! 1 laced bong, and i was soo close to feeling like 'nearly there' to breaking over, next time i will force a second pipe, and try to go further
Wow. It looks like you had a really good time.
flowamasta
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i was amazed by the colours and sounds being intensified 10x over, i could hear the lights buzzing, and feel the room around me, it felt like it was holding me, forcing me to close me eyes, and just watch the insane things happening, everytime i breathed in and out the swirling patterens would change direction with my breathing, and the curtains wouldnt stop moving and the floor being alive with energy......can't wait for my next hit today, i will light bulb it, and try and get a real decent crossover i swear i was soo close my first time, i felt a tickling sensation as i was falling into this unknown feeling, it was like i was submerged in warm liquid, i was nearly afraid i would piss myself, it was such a soothing feeling! wow, wow wow, insane! the experience is soo vivid and clear, and colourful and 15 minutes after you feel 100% fine, like straight as a bell, except clearer with this new perception of reality, it actually felt slightly alien, and out of this world. incredible
What does "light bulb" mean?
morfin56
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Funny..
A light bulb vaporizer.
Its what most people that are new to DMT use.
Congratulations Flow!
DMT is something special, glad you have the chance to try it.
flowamasta
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yeah, i'm all ready for it for sure, will be happening later today, i laced it with a bong the first time, it worked amazing for sure, but i went to the trouble of making a bulb vaporizer tried 1 hit last night, just to make sure all good, and yeah it taste worse through a bulb without the erb to tone it down, but the effect seemed to come on quicker, today i will do a full 60mg dose and try to get it all in 1 hit, i think i will need help though, as when i tried it through the bulb i started to feel it before id even finished sucking it down, and i lost all peripheral vision, and has alot of trouble holding the bulb, not knowing how tight i was holding it, so i carefully put it down, it was only a tiny tiny dose aswell.....wow, cant wait for later today, it must be good stuff, its yellowish orange, but it lit my head up that's for sure!