kits vs individual parts, whats best for the wallet?

I don't really think the tent makes a difference with smell. I don't smell anything outside the tent. Just make sure that the tent you buy has access points where you need them to care for your plants. You can easily add more duct openings but it is hard to add more door openings if you need them. I found that having only one access point was difficult when growing sog. I couldn't get to any of the plants except the ones in front without removing them all, which is a bitch. In spite of everything I got nearly a pound with a 600 watt. I did better the next round with fewer plants. I have since installed another zipper, but if I had spent just a bit more in the first place, I could have avoided that little project.
 
yungkodama said:
Wow you must have a kick ass set up... rn Im debting whether to go scrog or sog! And well more space is better and the price difference between a 3 x 3 and 4 x 4 isnt a big difference to me so why not.. now I feel sog would be cool for that because more plants and faster yielding ( I hope ) cause in a nuttshell thats what I want. I will be steering towards moms and clones later when the money allows me to for now I just want to pump something out fast so I thought sog was the green light
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SOG is good but due to the nature of it outside of a hydro set up you can have real problems getting to each pot to water it

plus plant heath with the extra plants and extra dark spots its easy for mould or bugs to not get notice

people do well with scrog

I just like to veg up and train some sometimes topp, I trust in the power of good air exchange and good lights been tempted to do scrog but never been fooked to get a net and set it up

I always seem to have so much to do

when you run a perpetual with a fucking idiot who`ll think they know better till they start killing plants

What I would not give for my own 10msq to 100msq spot with water and power

I mean to me the area we use is pretty small 1.2m x 2m is the veg area and around 2.4 x 2m for bloom then some space for the water butt and fans and such

Off that I get all I want for personal use and my buds 50% cut seems to make him more than his day job even after he`s paid his car insurance and electric bill

It`s sad that with a relatively small amount of extra space how much more I could do and how much my life could change I`m space hunting have been for 4 years now I find stuff for like 2 to 10 trees but never a good spot for 100 or more

just due to being in the city, but it`ll be another 3 years or so till I can afford to get the fuck out of here to some where with good air and nice water and less people
 
THE KONASSURE said:
SOG is good but due to the nature of it outside of a hydro set up you can have real problems getting to each pot to water it

plus plant heath with the extra plants and extra dark spots its easy for mould or bugs to not get notice

people do well with scrog

I just like to veg up and train some sometimes topp, I trust in the power of good air exchange and good lights been tempted to do scrog but never been fooked to get a net and set it up

I always seem to have so much to do

when you run a perpetual with a fucking idiot who`ll think they know better till they start killing plants

What I would not give for my own 10msq to 100msq spot with water and power

I mean to me the area we use is pretty small 1.2m x 2m is the veg area and around 2.4 x 2m for bloom then some space for the water butt and fans and such

Off that I get all I want for personal use and my buds 50% cut seems to make him more than his day job even after he`s paid his car insurance and electric bill

It`s sad that with a relatively small amount of extra space how much more I could do and how much my life could change I`m space hunting have been for 4 years now I find stuff for like 2 to 10 trees but never a good spot for 100 or more

just due to being in the city, but it`ll be another 3 years or so till I can afford to get the fuck out of here to some where with good air and nice water and less people
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Man I understand the roommate thing.. I used to have a good bud last year and we did well but he thought he put in more effort and things went sour ( I financed everything :D ) lol but anyways scrog sounds more promising and easier rather than spending over a bill on seeds I can get maybe 6 maybe more and bring it down to 4 choosing the best ones... I feel you on that grow space though lol its unfortunate but we all can make due
 
HydoDan said:
The smell is totally strain dependent. I live rural and vent my tent outside.
It runs from very pungent to barely noticeable..
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Kinda worried about that I want to run me the stinky ones! :mrgreen: looking at some cookie strain and maybe some berry bomb and gorilla glue and another hybrid thats a little on the indica end... stuff thatll flower quicker tbh :neutral:
 
cindysid said:
I don't really think the tent makes a difference with smell. I don't smell anything outside the tent. Just make sure that the tent you buy has access points where you need them to care for your plants. You can easily add more duct openings but it is hard to add more door openings if you need them. I found that having only one access point was difficult when growing sog. I couldn't get to any of the plants except the ones in front without removing them all, which is a bitch. In spite of everything I got nearly a pound with a 600 watt. I did better the next round with fewer plants. I have since installed another zipper, but if I had spent just a bit more in the first place, I could have avoided that little project.
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in the sog grow how many did you put in the tent? Saw some dude throw 24 and he got a lb in return lol kinda wack considering they must have been plenty of pop corn and maybe little trim
 
yungkodama said:
Man I understand the roommate thing.. I used to have a good bud last year and we did well but he thought he put in more effort and things went sour ( I financed everything :D ) lol but anyways scrog sounds more promising and easier rather than spending over a bill on seeds I can get maybe 6 maybe more and bring it down to 4 choosing the best ones... I feel you on that grow space though lol its unfortunate but we all can make due
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I find its more the cost of growing the seed vs its cost but I try to pay under £2 per seed, normally under £1 if I can £3/4 is normally my upper limit if I`m paying that much I`m thinking "I`ll clone the fuck out of the best one or pollen it for seeds" lol

I mean if I do a wholesale order then its 2euro to 40 cents per seed delivered in breeders packs, so there`s not many strains or breeders I`d give more than £4 a bean.
 
yungkodama said:
Kinda worried about that I want to run me the stinky ones! :mrgreen: looking at some cookie strain and maybe some berry bomb and gorilla glue and another hybrid thats a little on the indica end... stuff thatll flower quicker tbh :neutral:
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You gonna need a carbon filter unless everyone in the neighborhood is cool!!
I ran 8 plants in 1gal pots in a 2x4 tent. 3 week veg..8 weeks flower = 9oz... not great but not bad...
 
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in the sog grow how many did you put in the tent? Saw some dude throw 24 and he got a lb in return lol kinda wack considering they must have been plenty of pop corn and maybe little trim
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I did 49 in 6 inch square pots, Happy Frog. I averaged about 9g per plant, although I got as much as 15 off of one and as little as 5 off of some others. I learned a lot. It was my first indoor grow. I didn't have much popcorn at all since I lollipopped them. Most of my plants were HSO Blue Dream. I highly recommend it. It's very tolerant of newbie mistakes and it is a great producer.
 
THE KONASSURE said:
I find its more the cost of growing the seed vs its cost but I try to pay under £2 per seed, normally under £1 if I can £3/4 is normally my upper limit if I`m paying that much I`m thinking "I`ll clone the fuck out of the best one or pollen it for seeds" lol

I mean if I do a wholesale order then its 2euro to 40 cents per seed delivered in breeders packs, so there`s not many strains or breeders I`d give more than £4 a bean.
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Crazy prices tbh online lol but I will get to the clones later on facts
 
HydoDan said:
You gonna need a carbon filter unless everyone in the neighborhood is cool!!
I ran 8 plants in 1gal pots in a 2x4 tent. 3 week veg..8 weeks flower = 9oz... not great but not bad...
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Not bad at all tbh and im ofcourse planning on getting one! Its such a trip man im surrounded by older folk like mostly 50+ the youngest people around have to be 32 these are just guesses lol but my house is off street in a little community and I have a yard with some doggo dung to maybe help a little with smell :) But no I dont think anyone is cool around here so I just play the good kid and sweep my house and clean up around and say hi and what not lol we keep it stupid quiet to so I hope we arent a problem.. lotta typing lol
 
cindysid said:
I did 49 in 6 inch square pots, Happy Frog. I averaged about 9g per plant, although I got as much as 15 off of one and as little as 5 off of some others. I learned a lot. It was my first indoor grow. I didn't have much popcorn at all since I lollipopped them. Most of my plants were HSO Blue Dream. I highly recommend it. It's very tolerant of newbie mistakes and it is a great producer.
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Whoah... 48 damn how much did you spend on the seeds? Lol Must have been a hassle to take care of but it does sound promising tbh.. now what was the tent size? And did this was all Mh/HPS? Pretty dope I keep debating sog vs scrog. Scrog sound nice since I dont have to spend alot on seeds but sog sound more promising for a beginner
 
I grew from clones. I'm still using the many of the same phenos today with a few new additions. It was a terrific hassle to deal with. The plants got about 36 inches tall. I had to stake them which was only marginally successful. I had to flood the bottom to water. It was a 4 x 4 tent. 600w hps. I vegged the clones 2 weeks under 600 w of T5's after rooting in rapid rooters. Once rooted I put them in solos with HF, then 2 weeks later I tranferred them to the 6 inch potsand into the tent under hps.and 12/12. The top edge of the pots are actually 6.5 inches, so 49 fit pretty nicely in the 4 x 4. I won't do it again without an automated water system, or at the very least a better bottom tray for the tent. I had some leakage. I will see if I can find some pics.
 
cindysid said:
I grew from clones. I'm still using the many of the same phenos today with a few new additions. It was a terrific hassle to deal with. The plants got about 36 inches tall. I had to stake them which was only marginally successful. I had to flood the bottom to water. It was a 4 x 4 tent. 600w hps. I vegged the clones 2 weeks under 600 w of T5's after rooting in rapid rooters. Once rooted I put them in solos with HF, then 2 weeks later I tranferred them to the 6 inch potsand into the tent under hps.and 12/12. The top edge of the pots are actually 6.5 inches, so 49 fit pretty nicely in the 4 x 4. I won't do it again without an automated water system, or at the very least a better bottom tray for the tent. I had some leakage. I will see if I can find some pics.
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Wow that sounds really bad ass tbh I want to find the strains I like the most and then make mothers with those so SOG does sound practical in that way to.. maybe a medium SOG with 12 and maybe get a zip and a half off each or just go with 16 and pray for 1 off each.. heads still at the margin debating but SOG sounds easiest just more labor going around feeding each plant.. I am going organic so Im not sure if that makes a difference in which way to go in your opinion but yeup :)
 
Here are a few pics from that grow. I think this was around 3rd-5th week of flower.
 

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yungkodama said:
Wow that sounds really bad ass tbh I want to find the strains I like the most and then make mothers with those so SOG does sound practical in that way to.. maybe a medium SOG with 12 and maybe get a zip and a half off each or just go with 16 and pray for 1 off each.. heads still at the margin debating but SOG sounds easiest just more labor going around feeding each plant.. I am going organic so Im not sure if that makes a difference in which way to go in your opinion but yeup :)
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If you can get your soil right, you can use water only until about the 5th week of flower. You could even go all the way through if you could perfect it. I haven't yet. I have a nice worm bin going, and I'm hoping with more worm castings this round does even better.
 
cindysid said:
If you can get your soil right, you can use water only until about the 5th week of flower. You could even go all the way through if you could perfect it. I haven't yet. I have a nice worm bin going, and I'm hoping with more worm castings this round does even better.
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Sorry I keep saying 48 instead of 49 lol
 
Last grow I switched to 5x5 tents and put in only 16 plants each. I averaged nearly 2 oz per plant (Blue Dream) with 3 weeks veg. Much easier to deal with.
 
cindysid said:
If you can get your soil right, you can use water only until about the 5th week of flower. You could even go all the way through if you could perfect it. I haven't yet. I have a nice worm bin going, and I'm hoping with more worm castings this round does even better.
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Thats whats I wannah work towards so I can use that soil on a garden outside for veggies and what not but yeah im going to start it out all slow and add what I can little by little and eventually recycle the soil and hope the microbes really start kicking in, I wont get much in the begining but I see the big picture and want to work towards some great soil cause who dosent love some good organic herb, im here in AZ so some folks are blessed with humboldt plugs with some crazy organic herb and it blows me away the overall composition of the bud
 
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