Lady.J
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Lol same here...too much time. Makes the plants seem like they grow painfully slow.
Lady J's 12 / 12 From Seed Perpetual Closet CFL Grow
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Lol same here...too much time. Makes the plants seem like they grow painfully slow.
Lady.J
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My problem is that I want to try everything lol. I can always get LEDs come tax time
. Maybe I'll ask my mommy for Christmas, tell her it's for veggies 
Hey I remember somewhere in the first couple pages you said I'm sticking with cfl and don't bug me about it or something along those lines
Haha I see you guys got the jokes for me
I am sticking with CFLs for the closet and bin! Sticking to my word on that. Even when the light system gets here, will still keep the girls flowering in the closet. Still want to show ppl what CFLs are capable of. A few months ago, I would have never imagined I'd be able to afford a 400w system...but since the opportunity is here, I'd be foolish not to take it in order to preserve loyalty to CFLs. I will run some plants in the closet, then the same exact strain in the tent...and compare
. I heard CFL buds taste better because HID lights can give weed a 'hay' taste when positioned too close? Guess I get to find out all this for myself.
Cloudz2600
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Just curious, but how's the fiance taking this? "Sure honey a small grow is ok...Oh you wan't to grow in the closet...no problem...Oh you want a 4x4 tent in the bedroom...um...sure." Lighting doesn't affect taste. Lighting affects photosynthesis. More light=more photosynthesis, that's all. Taste is effected by what's in the soil. A "hay" taste may be burnt buds.
mantiszn
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Lady.J
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He's very laidback...doesn't really care. Every time I have another idea and run it by him, he tells me it's cool if I want to do it. He even tries to ask me questions to show support and feign interest lol. I love my man
. I'm sure he'd feel diff if it was his money I was spending though lol.I was referring to the heat of CFLs compared to HID when I was talking about 'hay' buds of course. HID is a lot less forgiving of lights being too close, so I think it's easier to end up with bad tasting buds if you aren't vigilant or miscalculate. I have seen people having their leaves actually touching the lighting without burning the leaves w/ CFLs just by having a fan blowing on it..
Lady.J
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I seem to remember someone saying something about this
don't smoke hay ... okay..
The large CFLs I am running are actually considerably less heat than the small CFLs! My temps were fine until I added low wattage CFLs to the closet as supplemental lighting. When I replaced a 32w/40w combo of lights with a 125w lotus CFL, my temps actually went down.
Cloudz2600
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Well I haven't had a fan blowing directly on the lights, but the girls have been burned by a 26w. Jorge says just do the hand test(putting your hand at the canopy level and seeing how hot it is) and that should suffice. I suppose if you went by visuals alone CFLs are a lot more forgiving.
Lady.J
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Like Mo said, the cheapies are super hot. The ones that don't have self vented ballasts seem to be the worst. I can hold my 200w CFL in my hands for a considerable amount of time before realizing it's slowly burning my hands...that's without a fan on it. With a fan on it, I watched this frickin gnat I was trying to kill crawl all over it forever. Don't think you can do that with HID. Am going to try to find the thread where this guy compares CFL grown bud to HID bud...him and his friends claimed that the CFL bud was lower yield and 'fluffy', but a better tasting smoke. Same potency.
mantiszn
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Never even bothered with the small uns
all I know is the red specs kicked out a lot more heat than the dual/blue
also the cooltubes are ok.. good for the price and will do fine in a small space, but any larger and it really lacks spread
could touch the cooltube without any issues
all I know is the red specs kicked out a lot more heat than the dual/blue
also the cooltubes are ok.. good for the price and will do fine in a small space, but any larger and it really lacks spread
could touch the cooltube without any issues
Flaming Pie
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Fluffy is from lack of light penetration. It causes the plant to stretch out for more light, which makes the nodes father between. I think it causes more leaf to grow with bud too..
It can be remedied by having lights within 1 1/2 inches of plant. but fluffy isnt bad necessarily. better air flow = less mold . and the potency is still the same.
That is what I've read anyways.
mantiszn
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would go higher.. you can get away with a 5inch but needs to be the more powerful version.
eg.
also if you buy UP you can always get a controller to slow it down, but you cannot speed it up any more..
eg.
RVK 125L1 342m3/hr
RVK 125A1 225m3/hr
both 5 inch, but the L1 has more power.
for a 600w would go up to 6"
also remember once you attache the scrubber the CFM's will drop, also every bend in the ducting and every metre
RVK 125A1 225m3/hr
both 5 inch, but the L1 has more power.
for a 600w would go up to 6"
also remember once you attache the scrubber the CFM's will drop, also every bend in the ducting and every metre
also if you buy UP you can always get a controller to slow it down, but you cannot speed it up any more..
Cloudz2600
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She doesn't need to worry about stealth so she's not using a scrubber 
newbie9
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hey lady j i have a question. we grew 2 RD from seed and one was topped and grew to about a foot 4-5 weeks of veg. The other is about a foot also but is packing on way more bud.. what could cause this.. same plants same light same everything.. 125w of CFL. the topped one had about 7grams of fluffyness. The other i expect to get about 15-20 and they are dense and full of res. but i planted 15 days later to keep a cycle. im just curious to know if the topping had anything with the reduction of mass. because the tops that appeard after seemed to be half of what the one cola was of the younger. both grown in fox farms soil and local nutes. 20-20-20 @ 1/4 strength for veg then 3-42-11 budding powder. bot plants were in 3liter pots. what caused one to be so much bigger then the other. Both seeds were natural not fem and were ordered from a reputable breeder.
brettsog
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ive found with a small hps in my 1.37m3 space there is less heat than 332w from 8 cfls (4 x 23w 3 x 65w 1 x 45w). so much so that im tempted to upgrade to a 400w hps for winter months and keep the 250w for the summer. im using 2 120mm 30cfm fans. no scrubber and no physical intake. highest temp out side today was 25c and highest temp in cupboard 31.8c
Cloudz2600
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I can't wait till I get the LEDs lol I won't have to worry about this heat stuff lol. Growing in the summer is such a pain lol. It's 102F here.
