Hollatchaboy
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Wait til the pots feel light.so should i stop watering then? i dont want to lose plantsthey was going good until last 4 days. now they are dying
Leaves drooping and tips yellowing
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Why u using synthetic nutrients ur plants got locked out from too much water and nutrients lolmy plants are dying!
i have 4 plants and 3 of them is seriously losing leaves. they are wilting down and dying.
This is White Widow #1.
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This is Autopilot XXL. It's showing same signs.
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And this is White Widow #2.
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I didn't water them for 4 days. 5-6 cm of soil was dry but i just watered with nutes now. (6.3 pH with Advanced Nutrients Grow, Micro, Bloom. 4 mL for each liter as company chart says). Waiting to see results.
Maybe it was because of underwatering? Because i always read that they need water more when they are flowering.
What it could be? Because leaves are seriously wilting down and dying.
DarkLordMelkor
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okay so i stop watering then. flush?
keep it real.
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The downwards claw is normally a sign of nitrogen toxicity, I’m thinking you have a problem with over fed and ph lockout, the lockout could be from watering issues or salt build up. I would flush with ro water and see how she does. I do organics and haven’t used synthetics in years! I won’t be a huge help.my plants are dying!
i have 4 plants and 3 of them is seriously losing leaves. they are wilting down and dying.
This is White Widow #1.
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This is Autopilot XXL. It's showing same signs.
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And this is White Widow #2.
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I didn't water them for 4 days. 5-6 cm of soil was dry but i just watered with nutes now. (6.3 pH with Advanced Nutrients Grow, Micro, Bloom. 4 mL for each liter as company chart says). Waiting to see results.
Maybe it was because of underwatering? Because i always read that they need water more when they are flowering.
What it could be? Because leaves are seriously wilting down and dying.
I would flush get them salts out there and wait till dry up to ur first knuckle 1 to 2 inches down the soil then water and feed try iguana juice bloom or should of used a bat soil then u can get away without using bottled nutes and just use water
DarkLordMelkor
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company that i bought seeds from says raise feeding...
so i fed one of plant and check how she will react. others are not watered. if she gets worse i will flush others.
they says its just n deficiency and some cal/mag def.
preparing only water with 6.3 pH now. getting ready for flush.
i hope they wont die.
they were really really good until last 4 days. everything started with yellowing leaves. then started to spread like that. top leaves looks healthly but lower parts are terrible..
btw i am into week 2 of flowering.
Hollatchaboy
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Switch to organic living soil. It ends up being much easier.
DarkLordMelkor
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next run i will use everything organic. but i have to save this run. i am into 2nd week of flowering and only 3-4 weeks left to end. so i cant give up on them.
interesting part is 3 plants showing same signs. all fed with same amount of nutes and water. first one started 3 days ago with yellowing leaves. other two started yesterday.
some replies says its lockout and some of them says raise feeding. also seed bank says feed them.
its really confused me. so i fed one of them and didnt water and fed others. if fed one reacts well, i will feed all. if she goes worse then i will flush others.
anohter interesting part is they keep flowering good and fast but lower side is looks terrible.
loosing lower parts mid of flowering and end of flowering is normal i know that but i am just in 2nd week.
i hope its just nitrogen deficiency. but if its lockout or something like that its not good news. its stressful day for me
Hollatchaboy
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If you're in 2nd week of flower, you've got more than 3-4 weeks to go.next run i will use everything organic. but i have to save this run. i am into 2nd week of flowering and only 3-4 weeks left to end. so i cant give up on them.
interesting part is 3 plants showing same signs. all fed with same amount of nutes and water. first one started 3 days ago with yellowing leaves. other two started yesterday.
some replies says its lockout and some of them says raise feeding. also seed bank says feed them.
its really confused me. so i fed one of them and didnt water and fed others. if fed one reacts well, i will feed all. if she goes worse then i will flush others.
anohter interesting part is they keep flowering good and fast but lower side is looks terrible.
loosing lower parts mid of flowering and end of flowering is normal i know that but i am just in 2nd week.
i hope its just nitrogen deficiency. but if its lockout or something like that its not good news. its stressful day for me
DarkLordMelkor
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oh seed info says 9 weeks to complete. so thats why. sorry i am newbie and i can say that thats my first grow.
GroBud
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99% of the time you can add another week or two to that. I'll run autos perpetually outdoors and schedule harvest for around day 100
GroBud
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Also lower leafs die your top growth is thin and spindly usually a sign of light stress. 1000 watts 20/4 is a lot, of course depending on distance and grow space. Rest of the plant looks fine or normal imo but top growths. In the newer pics kinda looks like top growths getting white tips as well which is a sign of light intensity. Plus they appear like they could be praying. Which is fine but you'll also have praying with light intensity, before they droop away from the light. All speculation but your plant seems to be getting worse not better, figured I'd throw this out there. I tried running a ROI-e720 in a 4x4 3 times I have some experience with light intensity issues.
That bottom growth not getting adequate light due to a thick canopy and fading is normal. The other issues weren't as bad until you started no watering or flushing or whatever was recommended. From those first pics you have a nice healthy green plant with a few lower leaves fading which happenes, especially in flower. with top growth issues. Medium issues go from the bottom up, environment issues top down
That bottom growth not getting adequate light due to a thick canopy and fading is normal. The other issues weren't as bad until you started no watering or flushing or whatever was recommended. From those first pics you have a nice healthy green plant with a few lower leaves fading which happenes, especially in flower. with top growth issues. Medium issues go from the bottom up, environment issues top down
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DarkLordMelkor
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Solution is found! They are hungry so bad! That plant (white widow) i fed today is very nice now. Leaves are up. Before watering and feeding, when i touch to leaves i was able to feel weakness on leaves. They was very thin. Even after 10 hours, drooping leaves are up now and i can feel thickness back again. Even yellow drooping leaves are up. Now i raised fertz. Especially Micro (nitrogen and calcium).
Now feeding others.
DarkLordMelkor
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And this is how white widow (which i fed) looks like.
DarkLordMelkor
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okay other 3 plants are back to life again. it was not enough feed and underwatering. i lift pot and wow it was so light.
now even dicoloring leaves are up. yeah i lost few big fan leaves but better than loosing plants.
i always read that flowering plants needs more often watering.
in veg stage, i feed and watering them every 4 days. not scheduling like that but it was 4 days to get dry soil. looks like they are drinking more now because last watering was day 5 of flowering and yellowing/droopy leaves showed themselves 2 days later of last watering.
i will keep eyes on watering and feeding better now.
i have calcium on Micro fertilizer. now ordered some Magnesium sulphate.
every watering, i try to get good amount of run off. maybe thats wrong tho.
probably i need to switch to leds and hydroponic.
all live and learn.
now even dicoloring leaves are up. yeah i lost few big fan leaves but better than loosing plants.
i always read that flowering plants needs more often watering.
in veg stage, i feed and watering them every 4 days. not scheduling like that but it was 4 days to get dry soil. looks like they are drinking more now because last watering was day 5 of flowering and yellowing/droopy leaves showed themselves 2 days later of last watering.
i will keep eyes on watering and feeding better now.
i have calcium on Micro fertilizer. now ordered some Magnesium sulphate.
every watering, i try to get good amount of run off. maybe thats wrong tho.
probably i need to switch to leds and hydroponic.
all live and learn.
Hollatchaboy
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Water to ~20% runoff.
DarkLordMelkor
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i am watering them in bathroom and putting it higher from ground so pot dont have any contact with run off or even ground.
yes epsom salt is mag.sulphate. but i found cal/mag bottles from growshop that i bought nutes. so i ordered and gonna give like this instead of tablespoon.
thanks for all help. i hope there wont be more issues. its damn stressful
GroBud
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Since you have them up get run off readings of ph and ppm to assure things stay in order once you get a grow or two that wont be neccesarily needed it's not now but itll help now and in the future understanding what's going on root leveli am watering them in bathroom and putting it higher from ground so pot dont have any contact with run off or even ground.
yes epsom salt is mag.sulphate. but i found cal/mag bottles from growshop that i bought nutes. so i ordered and gonna give like this instead of tablespoon.
thanks for all help. i hope there wont be more issues. its damn stressful
Hollatchaboy
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Just remember, cal mag contains calcium also. If you're just trying to correct magnesium def., you may cause calcium toxicity. Not saying you definitely will, but it's always a possibility to keep in mind.i am watering them in bathroom and putting it higher from ground so pot dont have any contact with run off or even ground.
yes epsom salt is mag.sulphate. but i found cal/mag bottles from growshop that i bought nutes. so i ordered and gonna give like this instead of tablespoon.
thanks for all help. i hope there wont be more issues. its damn stressful