Led and hps together

RainDan said:

@Bad Karma

Good to see you around again - been a long hiatus since the "early days". And yes, for those that aren't aware, @Bad Karma was very instrumental in the testing and trials/tribulations of early LED tech. Many thanks to him, and all those involved in the past, present and future. With LED technology changing rapidly we need more folks such as yourself putting the tech through it's paces.

Take care, and stay safe and healthy.

Dan

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Bad Karma said:

I warned you about Scammie in the beginning and you didn’t want to listen then.
So don’t go being all buddy-buddy with me now.
You know what makes my plants grow the best?
I let you in on a little secret, it’s not numbers, or charts.
Companies, and shills like you, can spout all the data they want.
I actually buy lights, and try them out, letting my plants decide what they like best.
According to my plants CMH reigns supreme in my garden.
They also like the COB’s I’m running from Tasty, and Timber.
The QB light from HGL, not so much, that’s why it was returned for a full refund.
Please, if you’re going to try and tell I’m behind the times, or don’t know what I’m talking about, you’ve got the wrong guy.

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Bad Karma said:

Yes, CMH does have a better spectrum and naturally includes UV, as stated above.
Yes, LED grow environments should run warmer, like 80-85 degrees.
Not 100+ degrees like the HLG 300 QB caused me.

As for being an LED user, do some deep digging on this site, and you'll see how very wrong you are, sir.
I argued with mod Sunni until she gave us this very LED subform in 2010/2011.
I helped develop the original lights, and was a rep for, Area 51 LED's on this forum for years.
If you still don't believe me, @PSUAGRO. can you vouch for me, pretty please?

Hey, I just found some of my old blurple pics, too!
These are Subcool's Rippa Bubba under some ProSource LED's in late 2012.
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PSUAGRO. said:

I know one thing, nobody ever talked shit about your plants no matter the light source..... Good to see you around grower.

Philips lec bulbs don't emit any significant amount of uv, unless they changed their outer glass envelope?

Have you talked to eh (a51) recently? Last I heard he's back in the US, Can't get in touch with him anymore.

Stay safe

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Sif1 said:

1. HPS only
-Lowest investment
-Proven technology
-Higher amount of waste heat/electricity consumption

2. HPS + CMH
-Slightly higher investment than HPS only
-With enhanced blue, full-spectrum light and small UV component gives a higher quality end product than HPS only

3. LED only
-Much lower electricity consumption (35-40%) with additional lower cooling requirement with further electricity savings.
-High investment cost (4-5times the amount of HPS only)
-Good spectrum with high blue amount yields high quality end product

4. LED + HPS
-Medium investment
-Saves 20-25% electricity with an additional lower cooling requirement
-High quality end product as we can add extra blue light with the LED

Hope this helps.

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Sif1 said:

1. HPS only
-Lowest investment
-Proven technology
-Higher amount of waste heat/electricity consumption

2. HPS + CMH
-Slightly higher investment than HPS only
-With enhanced blue, full-spectrum light and small UV component gives a higher quality end product than HPS only

3. LED only
-Much lower electricity consumption (35-40%) with additional lower cooling requirement with further electricity savings.
-High investment cost (4-5times the amount of HPS only)
-Good spectrum with high blue amount yields high quality end product

4. LED + HPS
-Medium investment
-Saves 20-25% electricity with an additional lower cooling requirement
-High quality end product as we can add extra blue light with the LED

Hope this helps.

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Sif1 said:

Looking good for a newbie. Well done

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