Led Users Unite!
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budlover909
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man i heard those get major hot with those high power leds and no fans
medicine21
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I guess you are an LED vendor. I went to your site and have some advice for you.
1. Please remove this ridiculous claim: "144*3LED grow light can replace the 3-5times HPS" . We, consumers, are already more educated than that to believe such a claim. It just makes you look bad and dishonest.
2. Please provide the ACTUAL draw (power consumption) of each light on your web site.
Thanks a good luck selling your lights.
TshirtNinja
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Yah I like how vendors are now officially here to rip our cash from our hands..... Please go peddle your wares somewhere else. Blatant lies have already blacklisted you from any business you might have gained. Plus your not paying to be a vendor. Everyone report this guy........
Hi everyone, I just finished my first grow using LED 300w two of them on tracks and had some success. I think my overall problem wasn't the lights but all the other factors that come with a first grow. First problem, I started the seeds in red party cups and didn't trans plant until 4 weeks. secound I didn't shake the nutrient bottle *face palm*. finally I didn't water enough so with 34 plants in 3 months I harvested 1/2 pound. The electricity was never a problem as my bill for the first month was only 86 bucks, the second month was around the same and the third month I added a 1000w hps and my bill went to 456 bucks. so two 300wLED on 18/6 =$86, while 2 300wLED+1000w hps on a 12/12 = $456.
kush groove
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No diana, these lights are not interesting...............u could at least change ur location to somewhere in the USA, that might help just a lil bit
Ryan112990
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LED lights are the best thing ever
Those are the cheapest of the crappiest LED panels made up of pieces that are not optimized or ideal for growing at all. They don't really have a reflecting lens so the light is spread everywhere = no penetration, lights run on very low wattage and are 1w leds in spectrums/wavelengths of deficient degrees for cannabis. The panels that look like those in these pics are basically as good as Christmas lights slapped together. Maybe as good as cfl at 1 inch to 2 inches from top foliage
Cereall
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This thread is for LEDs not for the knock off light bright game with red, white, and blue pieces....
epic fail of a real world comparison
joe macclennan
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i was thinking the same thing. but at least hes trying.
everyones gotta start somewhere
hell i almost bought a few of those cheap things off epay.( glad i found this thread)
i like my blackstars
Bad Karma
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I've tried to tell people of how much they can save in various threads before with LED over HPS.
They would always just hate and say no way, so thanks for posting your stats as more proof.
My 150W HPS was costing as much as 720W of LED does to run.
They argue "a watt is a watt", but they never can realize how AMP's figure into they equation.
The poor, poor, fools.
budlover909
Active Member
a watt is volts times amps watts tells the whole story because we measure power draw by kilowatt hours amps only good for telling you how much load you can put on a circuit before blowing out
medicine21
Active Member
What are you talking about?! The equation is W=VA. So a (drawn) Watt IS a Watt. You will save on cooling, yes. You can use a bit less wattage for the same results, yes. But you are waaaaay off base with: "My 150W HPS was costing as much as 720W of LED does to run."
Not all watts are created equal but they are charged equal as 1 watt in a machine might not have the same amps or volts as a watt in another machine, but you get charged by the KW hour at least in the US and as far as that goes a Watt is a Watt. There is no way an 150w HPS uses more electricity than a 720w LED unless that 720 is in name only and it somehow runs on less than 150w
kush groove
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I would have to agree a watt is a watt, which is why led's kick hps in the ass.......My bible says "By Tailoring the diodes' light spectrum to plant requirements, LED's can be more efficient PAR producers. HPS lamps deliver more total light per watt of input but led's are twice as efficient in PAR light as HPS lamps. That means a 200w LED can be substituted for a 400watt HPS lamp, and the 300watt LED can be substituted for the 600watt HPS lamp."
Oh yeah and you can also save on cooling....
While math might say you could replace a an HID with 1/2 the wattage in an LED panel, I've never seen any real world results using LED panels that showed they could produce anymore than maybe 30% in weight over HID watt for watt. I'll believe a 200w LED going at least as well as a 300w HID but 400w might be pushing it unless its of the highest quality LED panel. I will definitely save on cooling as my 395w panel doesn't put out enough heat to warm my bedroom so even in the summer the AC won't be needed for the light but just the heat from outside. I don't know how to figure it out for sure but if I had to guess I would say watt for watt my high quality LED panel puts out about 20% (or less) as much heat as my 400w HPS system did. I don't expect it to perform as well as 800w of HID but I do think it will do as well as 600w of HID atleast/ifonly because light production is spread out over a larger area than a single 600w HID bulb (and each led has is its own 90 degree lense which would work better than a big reflecting hood with a little bulb.
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