dankerous
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Not true at all,my unit is full spectrum,does 2 kinds of uv,look at the photos,and there is lots of almost invisible diodes that only just show up in the pic,between the brighter ones,they are the infa red/uv diodes.
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Senseimilla
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I said most LED units, not all 
They all have different diodes and spectrums depending on model/manufacturer. Obviously if your light has quite a few UV bulbs it's more of a consideration.
They all have different diodes and spectrums depending on model/manufacturer. Obviously if your light has quite a few UV bulbs it's more of a consideration.so far ive tested 3 leds all top of the line and in veg the solar storm is the best by far! im yet to flower with it so stay tuned
you should of looked into solar storms the owner george is super friendly and would have worked with you. and if you told him you were comparing it the any lights hed realy work with you and give you the light half off on a grower feed back program. the dude is that confident in his light! i was hesitant about why my plant was respdonding like it was under a 1000 mh it was kicking out huge leaves and tight internodes, so i took an diff strain and it responded the same way. Ive taken 8 clones the same strain and the same exact age and had 4 plants under a black star 500 and 240 watt HO, along with a 200 watt cfl in a 4x4 tent, and then i put the other 4 in a 4x4 area with the solar storm and they are double the size with double the budsites as the other tent. the solar storm pulls 450 actual watts in veg and the thing amazes me. anyways im done rambling ill keep you guys upto dat when i get into flowering
rippingangel
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Diodes put out trace amounts of uv but is it uvb?
And no offense but doesn't full spectrum diodes defeat the whole purpose of led lighting?
Thought the pro aspects about led is that they can only put out the light you need.
And no offense but doesn't full spectrum diodes defeat the whole purpose of led lighting?
Thought the pro aspects about led is that they can only put out the light you need.
dankerous
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Thats abit of a silly thing to say,plants need PAR full spectrum,like the sun gives off,so no its doesnt defeat the object,the reason good LEDs can out preform other lights per wattage is as they give of more usable light,and by full spectrum they mean the full spectrum needed to grow,not more blue like a HID and more red like a HPS,but a usable mix of red and blue and uv uvb,and other colors the plant uses,natural light isnt just blue n red,
Serial Violator
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Cheers mate i'll have a look for them
rippingangel
Member
Wouldn't it be more effective to go with cmh/cdm/hci if you want full spectrum? As i recall green light and yellow light is kind of useless and full spectrum contains a lot of it especially green and the plants reflects most of it. The sunlight is so effective because it puts out vast amount of lux/lm and leds put out less.
rippingangel
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PAR Spectrum
Sun spectrum
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dankerous
Active Member
I wasnt saying it was the same as the sun,I was saying closer than HID/HPS,and my unit has limited green,as I stated a full growing spectrum or closer too,
There is 4 x blue/turquoise but not green leds,and these are 3 watt crees too
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PAR Spectrum
Sun spectrum
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There is 4 x blue/turquoise but not green leds,and these are 3 watt crees too
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PAR Spectrum
Sun spectrum
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Senseimilla
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Actually I've seen/heard people who did custom LED grows using only 2 or 3 spectrums of red/blue successfully. Cannabis does not need full spectrum. Those green LEDs on your full spectrum light are basically a waste compared to if they had red or blue spectrum LED in it.
PetFlora
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Let's use inorganic tomatoes v organic. Assuming they both get proper nutes... The two tomatoes may look the same, but the quality of nutrition is vastly better in the organics.
Extrapolating to mj and LEDs, PAR misses the key 550-600nm range, which should make up roughly 25% of the overall blend. This is one reason why HPS is still popular. An optimal blend would be ~ 8-10% 420-450; 25% 550-600; the remainder in 630 > 740 (plus a pinch of uvB & IR). Ratios should be adjusted for Indica dom (more reds) or Sat dom (more blue). PUR is the ticket to a successful harvest both in quality and quantity
Extrapolating to mj and LEDs, PAR misses the key 550-600nm range, which should make up roughly 25% of the overall blend. This is one reason why HPS is still popular. An optimal blend would be ~ 8-10% 420-450; 25% 550-600; the remainder in 630 > 740 (plus a pinch of uvB & IR). Ratios should be adjusted for Indica dom (more reds) or Sat dom (more blue). PUR is the ticket to a successful harvest both in quality and quantity
curly604
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what up karma!long time no see! cool vid but led give off no heat at all? these guys always have something fishy to say it seems to me but you got some prosources and your still happy with them right? is it just me or does buddy seem a little well informed and a little actorish ? maybe just me 
Bad Karma
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They should have said "They produce almost no heat".what up karma!long time no see! cool vid but led give off no heat at all? these guys always have something fishy to say it seems to me but you got some prosources and your still happy with them right? is it just me or does buddy seem a little well informed and a little actorish ? maybe just me
Remember, these are 1W LED's, so they do run super cool.
The 3W LED panel that I had for a little while ran considerably hotter then my Pro Source Illuminators.
Yes, my Illuminators are still rocking along and taking really good care of me.
I think his presentation seemed a bit hammy due to his goofy smile, but I think there's an explanation for that.
One, he's super medicated (I mean, look at that grow, his jars are full), and two, I'm sure Pro Source is hooking him up with a nice check or a bunch of free lights for letting them film his grow and interview him.
Either way, he's got a reason to be smiling.
Bad Karma
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I remember somebody mentioning it, but not having any info about it.
I haven't contacted the company about it since I'm all set with my lighting situation and am not in the market for any new ones.
curly604
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cool man ya i figured it was something , glad to hear your prosources are still treating ya well. have ya had a chance to check out my thread with the new lights i grabbed? i think i felt your presence in the shadows lol
dankerous
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I love how much I am having to repeat myself,I said it produces a full growing spectrum,like the optimal for plants,this unit is designed in the uk and made in the uk,not in china,as I said the only "green" are 3 diodes and they are turquoise which is actually more blue than green,so its doing several blues,and several reds(including uv),and orange and that is it I think.I am not saying red and blue doesnt work,my avatar was grown with a 125 clf that was dual spectrum,I am just saying that it is well documented that plants do need other colors than blue and red and yeah I know green isnt one of them,I have been growing a while,and also have more access to books etc than most people due to my job,. I hope this time people understand I mean a "full growing spectrum" like optimal light, I think my plant speaks for itself,its under the 90w LED and is only 29 days into flowering
