kush groove
Active Member
right on bossman, it sounded like u were saying u got the 357 magnum because it costed mored, and I believe blackstar uses bridgelux as well......and to be quite honest all the different led's for example blackstar and the 357 magnum probably both come from china, they just painted the unit a different color and requested certain led's in the unit itselfNo worries about bashing so don't take it personal when I ruin yours...lolIt's all about being informed consumers and cutting through the adspeak and marketing B.S. In a perfect world we would know what we are buying but it ain't so I like to do some research. Anyway, maybe re-read my post. I never made any claim that my Magnums had CREE LED's. I said that Stealth Grow were the only ones who use them. Maybe you think that Stealth Grow make my lights but it is a different company. I was well aware that the panels I bought used Bridgelux and in fact I was looking for Bridgelux panels because I couldn't afford to buy CREE and as a former employee in commercial electronics who purchased LED's (although not horticultural) I knew that Bridgelux was pretty much number 2 in the industry.
I sure didn't say that I'd have bought Blackstar if they were more money. I was just pointing out some simple math. An led panel that RETAILS for $250 can't contain $274 worth of WHOLESALE parts. I'm not sure exactly what went on with the whole Blackstar/Growboys scam but it certainly threw some doubt on their credibility. When the number don't add up on other claims is makes me think that they're not credible. If you research some of my posts on here I've actually suggested that people buy Blackstar if that's what they can afford and that it will grow pot. I just don't think it's reasonable to compare them to better quality products.
On another observational error, I can't speak for the Americans you mention throwing their money away as you can clearly see under my Avatar I am Canadian
As for me wasting my money.......have you looked at my grow journal? Does it look like my lights aren't working?
Anyway, the whole point of being on here is education. You are the first person I have found that used Blackstar exclusively to grow. I will be watching your weighout because I'd like to figure out what the grams per watt and the grams per dollar spent is because in the end that's the only way to figure out if something works which is why I'm journaling the 357's. If they suck, and they sure don't seem like it so far, then maybe I can make sure no one else wastes their money.
Anyway, you just cropped out and I have 6 weeks to go so right now your Blackstar is kicking my ass......but I'm coming.....
So the moral of the story is my led works and so does yours.....you jast payed over twice as much
