Libya No Talk?

tip top toker

tip top toker

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I'm a UK rebel for a reson. Mr Cameron and his government hold no legitimate authority as a result of their own doings. 1. Regime change is illegal under international law, so i cannot accept them as a legitimate power, they are criminals. 2. They went to war in Libya under the pretence of protecting civilians, a. they are killing them with missiles in the dead of night, not protecting them, b. cameron has authorized rubber bullets and greater powers to police in the UK due to recent riots which started as a result of a harmless black man being murdered in a minicab by the police. Double standards is a phrase that does not exist in the political circle.

They hold no legitimate authority so they can all go and get fucked if they think they'll get a penny of tax money from my income :D

Todays events have had me in a rather elated mood at work, funny as fuck. Rebels claim they've captured the sons, a day later one of them just waltzes into a hotel and gives a conference to reporters. Yet we apparently recognise this bunch of rebebls as the legitimate party, well i guess we should, that's exactly how Cameron and his cronies act most of the time, lie your face off till you're caught, such as when they claimed the black guy murdered by the police shot one of them, nope, the police shot their guy, but lied as they could till they were outed. It also amuises me thatCameron keeps gaffing on about how democracy is coming to the people of Libya, last i checked picking up guns and trying to out the government and declaring yourself the leaders wasn't quite how democracy works :lol:

All rather entertaining i have to say.
 
beardo

beardo

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BendBrewer said:
Time and time again you display that you have no idea of what you are talking about. Why do you even try?

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Italy is in Europe-

BendBrewer said:
What do you think BP buys if not oil contracts? And what do you think oil contracts deal with if not exports?
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I think B.P. will be in controll of oil feilds and be developing new wells in Lybia, where they sell it isn't the point, but yes it will go to europe-
 
BendBrewer

BendBrewer

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It's already going to Europe. BP has been buying for a long time. What are you trying to bitch about exactly?
 
sso

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kinda sounds like lybia was a nicer place than the u.s, with a more enlightened and liberal president lol..

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kinda bit of a joke, western countries going around forcing others to be "democratic".

as our vote doesnt count unless we have shitloads of money :)
 
BendBrewer

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Johnnyorganic said:
Libya supplies oil to Europe. They need that oil. So is this a good war?

Quadaffi is bad, ultimately the Rebels may be worse.

The draft Constitution from the Rebels establishes Sharia Law in Libya.

See Part 1, Article 1.
http://www.nationaljournal.com/nationalsecurity/document-libya-s-draft-constitutional-charter-20110822

None of that really matters because Congress should have given authorization in the first place.
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Something you found on the internet huh? Weird that they use the word God. Normally Muslims use the word Allah, not God.

I wonder why whoever did draft this thing, did so in English. One would have to conclude that the author's target audience is Americans looking for something to be afraid of.
 
BendBrewer

BendBrewer

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It was taken at the heart of demonstrations in the main square in Benghazi. Sorry Drama. You're just going to have to accept that some people appreciate us.
 
tomahawk2406

tomahawk2406

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thats what happens when u ban together and unite for something you belive in. all u uneducated blow hard teabaggers, look over seas...... thats how u take back your government. stop acting like u mean something. if your not willing to kill than go back to work and work harder.
 
beardo

beardo

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tomahawk2406 said:
thats what happens when u ban together and unite for something you belive in. all u uneducated blow hard teabaggers, look over seas...... thats how u take back your government. stop acting like u mean something. if your not willing to kill than go back to work and work harder.
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You mean they should ask NATO to arm them and back them with air strikes and special forces?
 
tomahawk2406

tomahawk2406

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dude thousands protested their asses off and physically assulted government troops until they were fired on and killed. they fought their government with their bare hands, said fuck work and money, i want freedom. u dont see that unity here in the states. yet there FAGGOTS that ride this theme in the US and act like blogging and holding a picket sign is total anarchy. if your not gonna get physical than go home
 
Carne Seca

Carne Seca

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NoDrama said:
With Qhadhafi gone the people can start paying for their own education (College has been free for a generation), start paying for their own healthcare ( It was free under Ghadaffi), forget about any kind of welfare and can forget about being one of the few nations in Africa that was at least somewhat stable.

"I love the people, all the people," he proclaimed in a 1986 interview with a French television newscaster published in Jeune Afrique. "I would like the people to vanquish the government, the armies, the police, the parties, and the parliaments," he said in explanation of his notion of direct democracy in which people rule themselves without the mediation of traditional governmental institutions. "I am the prophet of the revolution and not the prophet of Allah," Qadhafi declared in the same interview.

By all accounts, the Qadhafi regime has succeeded to an impressive degree in fulfilling basic human material needs. Libya has also been relatively successful in achieving economic egalitarianism. To Qadhafi, such equality entails abolishing the conventional employer-employee relationship. Wage labor is regarded as a form of slavery. Similarly, to prevent landlord-tenant relationships, no person may own more than one house. Furthermore, because domestic servants are considered "a type of slave," the residents of a house should perform their own household work. To achieve economic justice, the slogans of "partners, not wage-earners" and "those who produce, consume" have been proclaimed and, to a significant degree, established.


Of course everyone in the USA just believes what the media tells them. Qhadhafi is a terrible man who is killing his own citizens by the millions, a eccentric tyrannical overlord who is beset with bouts of blood lust and greed.

Of course.


Gold had nothing to do with it either. Sure.
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Stability at the price of civilian blood? So not worth it. It's not just media hype. He killed a lot of people. These people deserve freedom after living under that bastard for decades.
 
Johnnyorganic

Johnnyorganic

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BendBrewer said:
Something you found on the internet huh?
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Yeah, imagine that. Sourcing something from the internet to use in an ONLINE discussion.

This draft document can be found on at least four different sites online. Drudge leads to the Heritage Foundation, which leads to the National Journal, and the Scribed website.

I selected the one from National Journal because some members attempt to use the source as a means to discredit.

You did not disappoint.

BendBrewer said:
Weird that they use the word God. Normally Muslims use the word Allah, not God.

I wonder why whoever did draft this thing, did so in English. One would have to conclude that the author's target audience is Americans looking for something to be afraid of.
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Good points.

Funny, the Heritage site brings up some interesting points, too; especially regarding the authenticity, and stressing it is only a draft document in any case.

But I did not use it because SOME people would not even bother clicking on a link to a Conservative think tank.

But you make some interesting points; so for your perusal, here it is:
http://blog.heritage.org/2011/08/22/libyan-draft-constitution-sharia-is-principal-source-of-legislation/
 
BendBrewer

BendBrewer

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I just think it is fake. If so, it is nothing but propaganda. Could only find references to it on Right Wing sites. That tells me it is probably Propaganda.

If it is nothing but Propaganda then the real questions are Who did it and Why?

I think I know the answer to one of those.....................
 
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