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Trying4440

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Hey trying to learn more about led lights im running a 1000 watt led with bloom knob controlling red light (620-660 nm.)and veg knob controlling blue (620-660 nm)and cob light in a 3x3x7 gorilla tent...im 5 weeks into veg should i max out both knobs(what im doing now) or should i turn down the bloom setting what will give the best lighting in veg and what will be be
 

Lordhooha

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Hey trying to learn more about led lights im running a 1000 watt led with bloom knob controlling red light (620-660 nm.)and veg knob controlling blue (620-660 nm)and cob light in a 3x3x7 gorilla tent...im 5 weeks into veg should i max out both knobs(what im doing now) or should i turn down the bloom setting what will give the best lighting in veg and what will be be
Low powered leds like that just need to run them with everything they’ve got
 

1dude1seed

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Hey trying to learn more about led lights im running a 1000 watt led with bloom knob controlling red light (620-660 nm.)and veg knob controlling blue (620-660 nm)and cob light in a 3x3x7 gorilla tent...im 5 weeks into veg should i max out both knobs(what im doing now) or should i turn down the bloom setting what will give the best lighting in veg and what will be be
I highly doubt that light even comes close to 1k watts actually pulled from the plug. I'd say run it wide open for the entire grow and use every last watt the light puts out.
 
Thought I'd jump in on this, as I've been been playing with LED bulbs. I assumed that as long as you have enough Watt per plant it would be fine. Im using 70w of led bulbs for one plant, so far it's okay maybe of it was 80-100w it would be even better though. I really do wonder how much difference there is between 100w of led bulbs Vs 100w of say quantum boards.
 

Lordhooha

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Thought I'd jump in on this, as I've been been playing with LED bulbs. I assumed that as long as you have enough Watt per plant it would be fine. Im using 70w of led bulbs for one plant, so far it's okay maybe of it was 80-100w it would be even better though. I really do wonder how much difference there is between 100w of led bulbs Vs 100w of say quantum boards.
I use 200 watts of hlgs 100 spec r‘s for each 126 site cloner. 100 watts IMO isn’t worth the time and power you use for it.
 

oill

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Hey trying to learn more about led lights im running a 1000 watt led with bloom knob controlling red light (620-660 nm.)and veg knob controlling blue (620-660 nm)and cob light in a 3x3x7 gorilla tent...im 5 weeks into veg should i max out both knobs(what im doing now) or should i turn down the bloom setting what will give the best lighting in veg and what will be be
Sounds a like you just wanna play with knobs mate!
 
I use 200 watts of hlgs 100 spec r‘s for each 126 site cloner. 100 watts IMO isn’t worth the time and power you use for it.
Hey if I could afford even a spider farmer I would be happy, but 100 watts is better than 0 watts in my situation. I only speculate because I don't have access to a more powerful light.
 

90'sStoner

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Hey if I could afford even a spider farmer I would be happy, but 100 watts is better than 0 watts in my situation. I only speculate because I don't have access to a more powerful light.
When you say led bulb do you mean like a standard bulb with the diffuser removed?
 
When you say led bulb do you mean like a standard bulb with the diffuser removed?
Yep! There's a good video on YouTube by Shane at the Migro channel. I think it's called budget DIY led light or something.

Basically use standard e27 led bulbs, 6500k for growth 2700 or 3000k for flower. Take the caps off them for more intense beam of light. I've borrowed this idea with what I had and it's doing okay but you can always use more light.
 

LEDTonic - Max

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Thought I'd jump in on this, as I've been been playing with LED bulbs. I assumed that as long as you have enough Watt per plant it would be fine. Im using 70w of led bulbs for one plant, so far it's okay maybe of it was 80-100w it would be even better though. I really do wonder how much difference there is between 100w of led bulbs Vs 100w of say quantum boards.
You can get a rough idea by looking at the lumen rating and calculate lumens per watt. Household bulbs are often around 100 lm/w. HLG says their 100w model draws 95w and spits out 14000+ lm. That's around 150 lm/w. The spectrums created by the phosphors are probably not identical but it should still give you a decent estimate.

One nice feature of the HLG lamp (or any serious LED grow light) is that it won't electrocute us when accidentally touching the lamp's connectors when it's operating, which unfortunately can happen with household bulbs. Removing the dome removes the safety barrier and ingress protection. Stay safe! :-)
 
You can get a rough idea by looking at the lumen rating and calculate lumens per watt. Household bulbs are often around 100 lm/w. HLG says their 100w model draws 95w and spits out 14000+ lm. That's around 150 lm/w. The spectrums created by the phosphors are probably not identical but it should still give you a decent estimate.

One nice feature of the HLG lamp (or any serious LED grow light) is that it won't electrocute us when accidentally touching the lamp's connectors when it's operating, which unfortunately can happen with household bulbs. Removing the dome removes the safety barrier and ingress protection. Stay safe! :-)
Don't worry I already worked that one out by accident one day, I was luckily it didn't have a huge current running through it!

Thanks for the helpful info on top brand Vs the basic. I don't have the option to buy the better of the two but at least I feel like it's not a waste of time, just a waste of some electricity and at 100w it's not much to moan about anyway!

The other thing I think the top brands have over the LED bulbs is the added IR and UV. I'm not extremely clever with how they make them, whether it's the same light with different phosphors or what. But I don't think the bulbs have anything to match.
 

LEDTonic - Max

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Don't worry I already worked that one out by accident one day, I was luckily it didn't have a huge current running through it!

The other thing I think the top brands have over the LED bulbs is the added IR and UV. I'm not extremely clever with how they make them, whether it's the same light with different phosphors or what. But I don't think the bulbs have anything to match.
Cheap household bulbs are often built without an isolated driver. Basically, the low voltage side isn't properly and safely separated from the high voltage side and physically touching the low voltage side can with a bit of bad luck be the same thing as touching the high voltage side.
Here's a short read for anyone interested:

It's great that it ended well for you :-)
Let's collectively keep informing the rest of the community too.

Far red and UV wavelengths are made with different diodes than regular "white" diodes. You can DIY your way around it somewhat. UV can be supplied with reptile bulbs, for example.

If you're interested in a smaller 36w E27 bulb with bare diodes that reasonably priced, our LEDTonic Q2 is a pretty awesome alternative.
PS. it has an isolated driver and operates at 150 lm/w (2.13 µmol/J) :grin:
 

Trying4440

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Sounds a like you just wanna play with knobs mate!
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Trying4440

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Thought I'd jump in on this, as I've been been playing with LED bulbs. I assumed that as long as you have enough Watt per plant it would be fine. Im using 70w of led bulbs for one plant, so far it's okay maybe of it was 80-100w it would be even better though. I really do wonder how much difference there is between 100w of led bulbs Vs 100w of say quantum boards.
Thought I'd jump in on this, as I've been been playing with LED bulbs. I assumed that as long as you have enough Watt per plant it would be fine. Im using 70w of led bulbs for one plant, so far it's okay maybe of it was 80-100w it would be even better though. I really do wonder how much difference there is between 100w of led bulbs Vs 100w of say quantum boards.
I'm using a 600. 1000 and two 300 watt LED full spectrum they seem to be doing well
 

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Cheap household bulbs are often built without an isolated driver. Basically, the low voltage side isn't properly and safely separated from the high voltage side and physically touching the low voltage side can with a bit of bad luck be the same thing as touching the high voltage side.
Here's a short read for anyone interested:

It's great that it ended well for you :-)
Let's collectively keep informing the rest of the community too.

Far red and UV wavelengths are made with different diodes than regular "white" diodes. You can DIY your way around it somewhat. UV can be supplied with reptile bulbs, for example.

If you're interested in a smaller 36w E27 bulb with bare diodes that reasonably priced, our LEDTonic Q2 is a pretty awesome alternative.
PS. it has an isolated driver and operates at 150 lm/w (2.13 µmol/J) :grin:
So if you were to get a reptile lamp for UV and say a therapy lamp for IR? I can't imagine that wouldnt be cheap to run along 100w of LEDs! I've bookmarked that link buddy, when I got some spare change I'd love to check one out in person. Thank you!
 

oill

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