natureboygrower
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i'll have to look that article up.would a routine cleaning with bleach or hydrogen peroxide take care of the sms?
Looking for help with my cloning
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Philip-O
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I could not find the HT article. Would you mind sharing a link? (I did try to google it, no luck)
SchmoeJoe
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It was a few years ago. I can try to find it.
Philip-O
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If you can, I think several of us could use it. If not, we´ll surely come back to you with questions
natureboygrower
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i used to brew compost tea weekly for my outdoor.cleaned my brewer with h20 and peroxide after every run.never had a problem.
Sanitas Vibrationum
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earth worms do great job at taking care of that. There is no trace of the rockwool in my compost bin after about 6 month. I have red wrigglers , but I'm sure any earth worms will do the job just as fine. Everything can be broken down very fast if using appropriate creatures, fungi, bacteria.
SchmoeJoe
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Being sustainable and biodegradable are completely different things.
Sanitas Vibrationum
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if you grow in soil - it's sustainable. I use that compost to mix in my soil, only root in rock wool. Worm castings sure sounds sustainable to me
If you are not recycling your medium - you are not sustainable... but may be I misunderstood definition of sustainability, probably due to a slight intoxication
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SchmoeJoe
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I'm sure there are plenty of threads about regular diy cloners. The difference I'm suggesting is to use more air stones in a shallower container without the water pump. That's pretty much all there is to it.If you can, I think several of us could use it. If not, we´ll surely come back to you with questions
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SchmoeJoe
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I don't think you understand what "sustainable" means. There is no way that it is replenished in nature at at least the rate we use it at. It's a rock. It's formed over a geological time period and mined in days or weeks.
There are a number of other nonsustsainable organic amendments. A couple of top examples are greensand and fossilized bat guano. Just because you're growing in soil doesn't mean you're using products that are 100% sustainable.
SchmoeJoe
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Take a look at what Turbo Cloner says about SMS/Sick Manifold Syndrome. I ran a gallon of 32% h2o2 in a five gallon clones and still couldn't get rid of the infection. The general consensus around here, including industry professionals with degrees in biology and horticulture, is that the infection is inevitable and untreatable.
I've ran the same 55 gallon drums and 5 gallon buckets for different batches of teas for years without issue as well. It's not the same thing and has no bearing on it.
natureboygrower
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gotcha.i read up on sms and it seems cleaning with bleach on a routine basis will head off any problems.hey,im all for KISS,if i can avoid any extra steps,i will. i may try the bubble stone model.those stones are porous,i imagine you want to keep those clean as well.
SchmoeJoe
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Both systems run air stones. The infection always starts in the manifold. I've never had a problem with running just the air stones with a preventative dose of h2o2. But than, I get better results with the aforementioned rooting plugs.