Low Budget Startup Grow

slipperyP

slipperyP

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raiderman said:
hang in there bro. maybe it was somethin you ate went bad , even fas food can do tht.were waitin to hear good news your ok.pepto bismol does wonders for tormented stomach.
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Really...I have never tried it...I just suffer through it. I thought it was food poision...my son had it the day before, after a buffet style pizza party....I was about ready to burn papa johns pizza down....There in the clear now since I caught it....plus rep if I could for the pepto tip.
 
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bonezilla

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idk how much everyone else is spending on their grows but i cant find a 600w hps set up anywhere for under 100 bones and i spent 70 and now have 15 sprouts about ready to be transplanted
right now i only have 2 40w 95cri t12's on all 15 with a homemade relfector but im thinking i need to upgrade to at least a 400w hps
anyone got any suggestions for where to find one thats not too expensive?
 
slipperyP

slipperyP

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bonezilla said:
idk how much everyone else is spending on their grows but i cant find a 600w hps set up anywhere for under 100 bones and i spent 70 and now have 15 sprouts about ready to be transplanted
right now i only have 2 40w 95cri t12's on all 15 with a homemade relfector but im thinking i need to upgrade to at least a 400w hps
anyone got any suggestions for where to find one thats not too expensive?
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Thanks for stopping in....If you have a limited budget Id deffinatly put any extra money on light. It equates to more yield.


400 watt HPS
This is the cheapest one I found that is suitable.

http://cgi.ebay.com/400-watt-HPS-GROW-LIGHT-400w-System-Hydroponic-sun-lamp_W0QQitemZ400036043201QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item5d240199c1&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262&_trkparms=|301:1|293:1|294:30

400 watt HPS-MH conversion

If you have a limited buget....This is the one...You will only need only one room.

http://cgi.ebay.com/400-watt-SWITCHABLE-HPS-MH-GROW-LIGHT-SODIUM-HALIDE-w_W0QQitemZ390036154449QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item5acff76851&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262&_trkparms=|301:1|293:1|294:30


I am going to go with an upgrade to 1000 watters after a few crops.

Here is the one i WAS going to pick up
http://cgi.ebay.com/Digital-600-watt-HPS-GROW-LIGHT-600w-6-AIR-COOLED-HOOD_W0QQitemZ400043454065QQihZ027QQcategoryZ42225QQcmdZViewItem
 
raiderman

raiderman

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the only reason i didnt do 1000s is because of the heat prob. i have air cooled 2-600s that keep these 100F days 80F in my other gro room and thats with the ac on. i couldnt imagine wat kind of probs i'd have .the other stays 72F 24/7. plus i keep my lites 10 to 12 inches from the canapy with a canopy temp. of 80.,avg. 1 lb per lite.heat stress maxe hermies and low yields.anything over 85 is a red alert,lol.gro on.
 
slipperyP

slipperyP

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raiderman said:
the only reason i didnt do 1000s is because of the heat prob. i have air cooled 2-600s that keep these 100F days 80F in my other gro room and thats with the ac on. i couldnt imagine wat kind of probs i'd have .the other stays 72F 24/7. plus i keep my lites 10 to 12 inches from the canapy with a canopy temp. of 80.,avg. 1 lb per lite.heat stress maxe hermies and low yields.anything over 85 is a red alert,lol.gro on.
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I was originally planning on going with 4 x 600 watts when I can afford to, but i figured i would continue wanting thousands instead.

I was planning on venting the lights from outside the room and running an AC...Plus I have an AC on the other side of my intake if i need to turn it on.

An lb per lite is good...I don't know if I will get that but I am still building a style...Im flowering 8 plants...30 days apart to give myself a perpetual crop...

I think once I upgrade my strains my yeild will also increase...I have one plant that I have never liked...not as a clone, not as a plant. The buds dont have size...they grew wierd....Im sure given time and desire you could get them a bit better.

The other strain I like.....Cant wait to test the smoke...Yeild isn't as important as quality...
 
simpsonsampson420

simpsonsampson420

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glad you finally got the heat problem takin care of!! thats got to be a huge load off your shoulders...

i was gonna do 6 - 600w's in stead of the 4 - 1000ws i am gonna do, but it would actually be harder in my setup to vent the 600's than the 1000's due to space and how im gonna have them arranged... so its 4 - 1000's.. im gonna use a 12" exhaust fan for it so hopefully it keeps the temps under control..

i def. think once you get your setup complete you will get a pound a light at least.. maybe 2.. if you strive to hit a gram a watt for harvest, and achieve that, that is almost 2.25 lbs if you use the 1000w's... i have faith in ya bro.. we'll get ya there
 
raiderman

raiderman

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do you think exhausting in anther room would make that room cooler?on one lite my intake fan is in the attic , goes to the lite, ducting goes from the othe side of the growroom ,not affecting sucking out cool air. i use a small sqirrel fan for that,vortex fans are to powerful , and its 100 everyday here and15% humidities.ssshhoooo, i mean hot hot,lolol...plus buds that sit under 10 inches from the canopy on mine dont stretch the buds out but all rok hard everytime.plus also an agressive flowering technique can give more resin than advert. using a super carb.walk on.
 
simpsonsampson420

simpsonsampson420

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anytime you can exhaust your heat into another room its better.. be it outside or the room on the other side of the grow room... if your grow room is built inside of another room, dont exhaust into that room... because then your just sucking the exhausted air back into the grow room... the more heat you can get out and away from the grow room the better.. if you can bring cool air from another room thats good too.. and fresh air from outside is the best.. you can run warmer temps if you have a good supply of fresh air and good air movement...
 
raiderman

raiderman

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wat i meant was is if your sucking air out of your room with a high velocity vortex fan isnt air from other area spulling in that area?..thats good if the air pulling in isnt comeing from outside yhe house through cracks ,leaks,doors, heating the house up if your vortex fan is the one pulling air in...its prob. dif. here from where your at,, less you got a good cool house .my 2 vortex fans vent bothe growrooms and exhaust in the attic to the ouses exhaust vent.never reusing air.an ac rolled into the room keeps it the way you want..i use a simple sqirrel fan than gives plenty and not as powerful th v. fan.i'll remove this pic jus thot i'd show wat i mean.ac/heaters ,temp cotrolled yr round.yur plants are lookin great bro by the way..later bro.
 

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all i can say slip......is regarding ur yields and heat.....wen .winters here..ur going to do better. no mattter wut happens youll yield more from late septmeber all the way to april..may.......you might need a small space heater..lol
 
slipperyP

slipperyP

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raiderman said:
wat i meant was is if your sucking air out of your room with a high velocity vortex fan isnt air from other area spulling in that area?..thats good if the air pulling in isnt comeing from outside yhe house through cracks ,leaks,doors, heating the house up if your vortex fan is the one pulling air in...its prob. dif. here from where your at,, less you got a good cool house .my 2 vortex fans vent bothe growrooms and exhaust in the attic to the ouses exhaust vent.never reusing air.an ac rolled into the room keeps it the way you want..i use a simple sqirrel fan than gives plenty and not as powerful th v. fan.i'll remove this pic jus thot i'd show wat i mean.ac/heaters ,temp cotrolled yr round.yur plants are lookin great bro by the way..later bro.
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You can leave the pic...I don't care

I don't know if it will keep it cooler intaking from a vent 5 inches from an AC or not. I am hopping that I can chain the lights together....I put a roof vent in and I am exhausting straight out.
 
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RollingJoints

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Nice work slip loving the DIY haha. I managed to get me some frosted cheese and dutch to last me until my girls are finished.
 
raiderman

raiderman

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RollingJoints said:
Nice work slip loving the DIY haha. I managed to get me some frosted cheese and dutch to last me until my girls are finished.
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o'yea gotta love the cheese and BC.... lol, yea bro iknow wat ya mean i could cool at least 4 lites with ea v. fan.i'm having to use separater areas in the house for now.till i get these 28 plants fini.in 5 weex.
 
slipperyP

slipperyP

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Well i keep getting surprises....I went in tonight to check the crop and little flowers were sprouting out on 2 plants....I was in there right at lights on and was able to see that they are more done than I initially thought under HPS....I need to pick up a small microscope at least.

I pulled the 2 fucking plants out before they could do any damage...don't know if I over reacted or not?
 
simpsonsampson420

simpsonsampson420

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slipperyP said:
Well i keep getting surprises....I went in tonight to check the crop and little flowers were sprouting out on 2 plants....I was in there right at lights on and was able to see that they are more done than I initially thought under HPS....I need to pick up a small microscope at least.

I pulled the 2 fucking plants out before they could do any damage...don't know if I over reacted or not?
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its always good when you are further along than you think.. its about the best surprise you can get.. sometimes its hard tellin under hps cause of the amber/orange glow of the bulb.. can mask a buds true doneness...
 
slipperyP

slipperyP

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simpsonsampson420 said:
its always good when you are further along than you think.. its about the best surprise you can get.. sometimes its hard tellin under hps cause of the amber/orange glow of the bulb.. can mask a buds true doneness...
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That is what was up...I am still pissed about the flowers...I was layed up for a couple days a bam...WTF...I left 2 of them and pulled 2 of the mature plants.
 

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bonezilla

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thanks for the tips guys but i think im probably gonna go with CFL's they are the cheapest ill just string up 6 or 8 of em, stay fly
 
slipperyP

slipperyP

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bonezilla said:
thanks for the tips guys but i think im probably gonna go with CFL's they are the cheapest ill just string up 6 or 8 of em, stay fly
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Good luck...I wish you the best....I heard something one time about CFL's "there great for lighting, the area above my computer desk...lol
 
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simpsonsampson420

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slipperyP said:
That is what was up...I am still pissed about the flowers...I was layed up for a couple days a bam...WTF...I left 2 of them and pulled 2 of the mature plants.
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isnt it crazy just how much 24 hours can make?? not to mention 2 days.. i went out of town once for about 3 days and came back and it was like i didnt even know my girls.. they had grown soo much.. it was crazy shit..
so you cut down 2 of them?? your the first of us to do that so far!! wheres the pics of the trimmed beauties?!?! im doing a week from today... thats my final date... damn.. a whole week to go... then things will get fun..


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Good luck...I wish you the best....I heard something one time about CFL's "there great for lighting, the area above my computer desk...lol
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just depends on the cfls you get ;)
 
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