Maine Town to 'Require' gun ownership?

I dislike the requirement just as much as I dislike restrictions. While I am jealous of my right too keep&bear, i am just as jealous of your right not to do so. A gun is a responsibility for anyone and a hated object for many. I think the worst thing for gun rights in the USA today would be such a mandate. In fact i wouldn't be surprised if the gun grabbers aren't thinking that this is an opportunity (if true), "pay out more rope &watch'm hang themselves" ... cn
 
Criminals evolve, instead of taking your car they shoot you in the head first. It's a false security.

You liberal thieves will stop at nothing.

I hear about it all the time. Texas is like Somalia. Everyday the pirates wait outside aunty's door, shoot her, then steal the car. "Omg, the killed aunty, you bastards!"

Besides, this thread is fail. The constitution requires every able bodied male over 18 to maintain and keep a weapon in order to fulfill the 2nd. It's the excuse which makes the military legal. We don't really have a military, it is an extension of each state's private militia.

The constitution doesn't once mention the military. But that hasn't stopped them from illegally including god in government either.

I fear national prayer day more than a gun requirement.
 
You liberal thieves will stop at nothing.

I hear about it all the time. Texas is like Somalia. Everyday the pirates wait outside aunty's door, shoot her, then steal the car. "Omg, the killed aunty, you bastards!"

Besides, this thread is fail. The constitution requires every able bodied male over 18 to maintain and keep a weapon in order to fulfill the 2nd. It's the excuse which makes the military legal. We don't really have a military, it is an extension of each state's private militia.

The constitution doesn't once mention the military. But that hasn't stopped them from illegally including god in government either.

I fear national prayer day more than a gun requirement.

Where in the constitution is it mandatory for anyone to own a gun?
And what state militia did John Paul Johns come from?
 
Where in the constitution is it mandatory for anyone to own a gun?
And what state militia did John Paul Johns come from?

Mandatory gun ownership would obviously be wrong and unconstitutional, ASSUMING IT WAS ENFORCED, but its not and it can't be really, so in that sense there is nothing wrong with encouraging it but that said an unjust law is an unjust law.
 
http://www.constitution.org/mil/mil_act_1792.htm

Same shit as the VRA. If that is part of constitutional law, so is being required to own a rifle. The Militia Act Of 1792 hasn't been overturned.

having to buy health insurance so you don't pass your costs onto everyone else: tyranny, end of world, sky is falling

having to buy a rifle you may never need and which does not prevent costs from being passed onto others: awesome!

another cannaFAIL.
 
Boston Militia for a short time before he went to sea?

What is clearly known is that Jones left for Philadelphia shortly after settling in North America to volunteer his services to the newly founded Continental Navy, precursor of the United States Navy. During this time, around 1775, the Navy and Marines were being formally established, and suitable ship's officers and captains were in great demand. Were it not for the endorsement of Richard Henry Lee who knew of his abilities, Jones's potential would likely have gone unrecognized. With help from influential members of the Continental Congress, however, Jones was to be appointed as a 1st Lieutenant of the newly converted 24-gun frigate Alfred in the Continental Navy on December 7, 1775.[SUP][7][/SUP]
 
and you still havent answered what Militia John Paul Jones was in[/QUOTE]



Who was Led Zepplin? Did I get it right Alex?
 
The constitution doesn't once mention the military. But that hasn't stopped them from illegally including god in government either.
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The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;​
To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;​
To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;​
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To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;​
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To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;​
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To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;​
To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
To provide and maintain a Navy;
To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;
To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And​
To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.​
 
You liberal thieves will stop at nothing.

I hear about it all the time. Texas is like Somalia. Everyday the pirates wait outside aunty's door, shoot her, then steal the car. "Omg, the killed aunty, you bastards!"

Besides, this thread is fail. The constitution requires every able bodied male over 18 to maintain and keep a weapon in order to fulfill the 2nd. It's the excuse which makes the military legal. We don't really have a military, it is an extension of each state's private militia.

The constitution doesn't once mention the military. But that hasn't stopped them from illegally including god in government either.

I fear national prayer day more than a gun requirement.

the constitution does mention military forces, specifically authorizing the congress to maintain a national navy, and specifically prohibiting any state from having their own warships, or maintaining a standing army in peacetime, and further obligates that should the union require an army the appropriations for that army can last no longer than 2 years and they must then be re- validated by the full appropriations process in the congress.

these provisions of the constitution have not been amended and thus the US army and airforce are illegal organizations with no basis in the constitution, and thus PROHIBITED to the federal government under the 10th amendment.

the conmstitution itself makes no provision to require ownership of arms, but rather empowers the congress to make laws for the establishment of the milita and making that militia regular among the several states. this resulted in the militia act of 1794, and it's amendment by the dick act of 1903 which have established our current "Organized Militia" in the form of the reserve and the national guard, and the "Unorganized Militia" which are subject to calling up for service in the "Organized militia" or the active services.

as a result, the army is an extra-constitutional organization, but with a wink and a nod the congress and the courts have agreed that the standing army is simply a modern style militia....

sorry to correct you bunny but i love accuracy.
 
Where in the constitution is it mandatory for anyone to own a gun?
And what state militia did John Paul Johns come from?

the constitution mandates the congress to establish regulations for the militia, and the result is the still-extant Militia Act of 1794.

this Act defines the militia as every able bodied free male between the ages of 16 and 60 capable of bearing arms. the Act further requires these persons to keep and maintain at their own expense a musket of .75 caliber and several pounds of ball and powder suitable for that musket.

in 1903 the Dick Act modified (but did not repeal) the Militia Act of 1794 to require not a musket, but a suitable weapon "of a type in common use" and established the national guard and military reserves as a national "Organized Militia" and relieved the individual states of the requirement of maintaining their own militias.

and i assume you mean John Paul Jones... he was a freebooter from scotland, not a colonial militiaman. he was also a sailor, and served in the US navy (and the navies of several other nations at various times) citing John Paul Jones is just silly.

why not ask whay militia Joseph Plumm Martin served in, or george washington, or john adams, or nathan hale? those questions actually have valid answers. such trick questions are a cheap maneuver.
 
having to buy health insurance so you don't pass your costs onto everyone else: tyranny, end of world, sky is falling

having to buy a rifle you may never need and which does not prevent costs from being passed onto others: awesome!

another cannaFAIL.

the militia act requires you have a weapon, not that you must buy it from a third party.

most states militias had provisions to buy muskets and then sell em to the poorer militianmen on a layaway system, and many militiamen were gifted their muskets by well to do militia captains. many militia dragoons were LOANED their horses swords and pistols by wealthier landowners and businessmen to get talented but impoverished horsemen into the ranks, rather than wasting their talents among the foot.

one notable example is the Rough Riders, the last great private militia company, who were gifted their Krag Jorgensen rifles by Theodore Roosevelt (so they would all carry the same weapon) and the unit was gifted 2 colt heavy machine guns by Lewis Comfort Tiffany (the designer) for the campaign. TR recruited and equipped a cavalry regiment and presented himself with his regiment for service in cuba.

the astute observer recognizes that the federal government had no hand in this. 8)
 
echelon1k1,

Tell me those three Rs again. Reading.... What are the other two? Us sheet folk can't spell like convicts from the isle.
 
echelon1k1,

Tell me those three Rs again. Reading.... What are the other two? Us sheet folk can't spell like convicts from the isle.

Technically R, W and A.

Folks, i am on the edge of closing this thread. Please dial the insults back a notch ... or make them more creative. cn
 
the constitution does mention military forces, specifically authorizing the congress to maintain a national navy, and specifically prohibiting any state from having their own warships, or maintaining a standing army in peacetime, and further obligates that should the union require an army the appropriations for that army can last no longer than 2 years and they must then be re- validated by the full appropriations process in the congress.

these provisions of the constitution have not been amended and thus the US army and airforce are illegal organizations with no basis in the constitution, and thus PROHIBITED to the federal government under the 10th amendment.

the conmstitution itself makes no provision to require ownership of arms, but rather empowers the congress to make laws for the establishment of the milita and making that militia regular among the several states. this resulted in the militia act of 1794, and it's amendment by the dick act of 1903 which have established our current "Organized Militia" in the form of the reserve and the national guard, and the "Unorganized Militia" which are subject to calling up for service in the "Organized militia" or the active services.

as a result, the army is an extra-constitutional organization, but with a wink and a nod the congress and the courts have agreed that the standing army is simply a modern style militia....

sorry to correct you bunny but i love accuracy.

Article I, Section 8 of the constitution states "...To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
To provide and maintain a Navy;
To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;..." That's a pretty direct authorization for congress to raise an army; provided they get approval for the spending every 2 years or earlier. I was under the impression that out military spending was run through congress every fiscal year, so wouldn't that fit the criteria? How is the our current standing military unconstitutional? They don't have to reapprove the raising of the army, from what I can see, they just have to approve it's budget at a minimum of every two years.
 
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