Making salve/cannaoil/tincture/decarb questions, help plzzz!!!

Thank YOU Texas...appreciate the answer. I see now that this is way different than the way I do it. I am not working with BHO. I am decarbing dry iced hash. I spread it out in an oven proof dish and cover tightly with foil. Put in cold oven at 220f for 20 to 30 minutes (depends on freshness). Decarbed. Again, appreciate the answer

if the hash Is quality it will melt and act just like hash oil. a double boiler for chocolate etc, a bowl on top of a pot.. and watch it decarb.. the good folks at ncbi have deemed the graph inaccurate, though that should be obvious.

No straight glycerine is not that great transdermally

@ fumble oops didnt realize you were using dry ice hash

@Qwiz - are you talking about the graph I posted in the link?

yup

Good to know, ive always been a lil skeptical of the graph since it was published in 1990
hell I wasn't even born yet! LOL

Can you cite your sources please? would love to read up on it
or any other info to share
thanks

Pharmaceutical applications of hot melt-extrusion: part I.

AuthorsCrowley MM, et al.
Journal
Drug Dev Ind Pharm. 2007 Sep;33(9):909-26.

can't seem to get the full text for free anymore

here's what it says though.
numbers from them, my wording.
when decarbed at 500(your lighter) 50% or so makes it as intact thc when decarbed at 210 70% makes it..when decarbed at 170 something like 81% when decarbed without heat its in the low 90's/high 80's...at that point light and air oxidation will play a factor and limit you, also decarbing will never give a 100% return as the cooh group is missing..
thca converts to active thc now a smaller molecule, the rest is degraded to delta 8 and to a lesser extent some cbn is formed...cbn starts to rapidly form just over 400°f
A natural decarb at room temp about 26°c will take about 5 months...it will lower exponentially based on its half life of 35 days...

ok i think i remember you posting this before
i will have to try it at 170
makes more sense..
thanks again

No...that's awesome Texas. You gave me exactly what I was looking for. Thank you

@ fumble oops didnt realize you were using dry ice hash

your welcome
nice journal by the way!

why thank you

I've got some patients looking for salves and found the information in this thread particularly interesting. Especially the info posted by Qwiz about the process of metabolization of the various oil types.

Do you have any recommendations for the process of infusing unrefined sunflower oil with cannabis? I'm familiar with making edibles with coconut oil in a crock pot with water and trim. But I'm assuming that I can't supplement the sunflower oil with water as it doesn't solidify like coconut oil does. I have access to all the various types of hash (bubble, bho, co2, etc), trim, bud, and stems.

you really shouldn't try and extract with the carrier, if orally that carrier should be coconut, sunflower transdermally and glycerin is great sublingually.
the main reason being that you simply can't reduce it. dissolution rates into the carrier lower exponentially as saturation increases. meaning you will lose a fair amount of product without running so much solvent that it's horribly diluted..

you really need to start with hash and add that to the carrier of choice until it's saturated. this should be done at roughly 110° or just a hot water bath etc, just warm..

Very interesting. Now you've got me rethinking my way of making coconut oil as I've been extracting with the carrier for the longest time. You've got me now picturing unused plant desireables not saturating the carrier each and every batch... Wonder how much THC I've thrown away? I suppose it helps knowing weight wise how much you've put in as well.

Thanks qwiz.