Mars 1600 led full spectrum

BaROne123

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Hey All...

Just wondering if any of you have used/tried out Mars 1600 led full spectrum?
Any information would be appreciated.

Thank You :eyesmoke:
 

918Farmer

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Never have used it but I can stand behind the kind also have a small viparspectra for supplemental lighting. Most lights will veg fine but fall short in flowering. So I bit the bullet and spent the extra on what I knew would produce in all stages. Plus. Built in timer and temp and fully dimmable spectrum on the red blues whites irs and uv
 

BaROne123

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Never have used it but I can stand behind the kind also have a small viparspectra for supplemental lighting. Most lights will veg fine but fall short in flowering. So I bit the bullet and spent the extra on what I knew would produce in all stages. Plus. Built in timer and temp and fully dimmable spectrum on the red blues whites irs and uv
Many thanks for the feedback.
I have temp and humidity in good range, same for EC value and PH. I will be getting better LEDs, but not for about four weeks. I am going to research vipaspectra.
But for now my 1st grow looks doomed. Thank goodness I didn't expect much on this grow... as I look at it.... my next will be much better. Thanks to everyone at rollitup.
 

BaROne123

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There are much, much better options for that pricepoint.

What size area are you trying to cover?
Hello and thank you for the reply.
My tent is 1.2 x 1.2 and 170cm height. I am using sub standard LEDs ( mars 600 ) When I brought my light I made my first big mistake.... took wattage to mean wattage output. So thought I had 600w. But actual watts is around 250.
 

blake9999

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If you using mars why would you want to switch to Vipar? That seems like a lateral move to me. You just trading off one mid range light for another. I would be looking into getting some HLG Quantum boards myself.
 

BaROne123

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If you using mars why would you want to switch to Vipar? That seems like a lateral move to me. You just trading off one mid range light for another. I would be looking into getting some HLG Quantum boards myself.
I only want to research vipar. I have researched so many LED lights. Vipar is another to add to my list. I looked at Platinum and their very platinum prices. I just would like something suitable for the 4 plants I would like to grow.
 

hawkems

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I only want to research vipar. I have researched so many LED lights. Vipar is another to add to my list. I looked at Platinum and their very platinum prices. I just would like something suitable for the 4 plants I would like to grow.
Petty much all of those lights are the same efficiency as an hps. Please do some more research on the led forms here.

As an option I'll also send you to

https://www.omegalight.net/shop
 

5BY5LEC

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Is there any reason you cannot get a MH or HPS? A small 400 watter would do you 100 times better.
If you can vent it or have a fan on it, I would seriously consider it. They are cheap, time-tested, and proven. You will also find lots of information on height ect since they have been used for so long.
Just food for thought. It wont use any more juice than a 400w LED.
 

5BY5LEC

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If you are serious about staying with LED's, go with some badass LED's and dont waste your time.
Those are what everyone are calling "HLG's". Horticulture Lighting Group.
Buy two and a ballast to run them and boom your good to go.
They will serve you better than any ready to go light even near that price range.
I have seen it with my own eyes or else I would not be recommending.
Those lights are actually made by Samsung BTW
 

hawkems

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I posted the quoted section in a different thread and thought it might have relevance here as well.

(Only the hlg qb288 v2 is produced by Samsung uses the 301b diode [current top bin], however their other boards use samsung 561c diodes. [Still excellent and what most tech is using because of the efficiency and costing being lower a. 5-7% efficiency gain is still gains right!? ]

A joule of light creates both heat and light. The efficiency of the fixtire/bulb/diode is what determines the general ratio of heat:light.

(THE FLOWOWING are not accurate statistics or fact but rough estimates to make a point)

Say an hps is 40% heat : 60% photons. But a high efficiency led can give more like 20% heat : 80% photons. Plants like photons. That's pretty much why you go led. But lower grade leds like mars hydro, viparspectra, well most if not all 'burple' lights are like 30-35% heat : 65-70%. They are also marketed as a full spectrum light but.....like they arent? I don't want to sound like I'm straight bashing on companies and doing all that troll stuff. It just isn't where you should put your money.

If you aren't convinced to go decent mid power leds, consider CMH lights. They are more efficient than the burple leds and have different benefits than too end leds currently do.

And if not it really is just better to go with a cheaper hps light and spent the additional on cooling.

Different lights have different levels of emited radiant heat. Which is directly transferred and does no conduct thermal change in the atmosphere at the same rate.

Also 1 watt of hid lighting produces 3.4ish btu's of heat. So thats a good reference if you want to calculate if it's worth it to you. Sometime running a hotter light is a good thing in the winter.
http://msue.anr.msu.edu/news/green_light_is_it_important_for_plant_growth

That is a study that goes into why green light is important and kind of why real world data shows good full spectrum white leds kind of rule the led market right now.
 
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BaROne123

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Petty much all of those lights are the same efficiency as an hps. Please do some more research on the led forms here.

As an option I'll also send you to

https://www.omegalight.net/shop
I posted the quoted section in a different thread and thought it might have relevance here as well.

(Only the hlg qb288 v2 is produced by Samsung uses the 301b diode [current top bin], however their other boards use samsung 561c diodes. [Still excellent and what most tech is using because of the efficiency and costing being lower a. 5-7% efficiency gain is still gains right!? ]

ttp://msue.anr.msu.edu/news/green_light_is_it_important_for_plant_growth

That is a study that goes into why green light is important and kind of why real world data shows good full spectrum white leds kind of rule the led market right now.
Thank you for the information and link, which I find interesting. Definitely going to research and think hard
 

Capn-Crunch

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I had a 30" x 30" tent and a mars 600 like you have. I started 12 plants and put them outside after 1 month in the tent. Under the mars light at 32" above the plants the node spacing and growth was excellent. I just wanted to show you what you can expect from your light in the same size tent. A lot of people told me the mars was POS, but I have no complaints about it at all. I'm going to do an indoor grow starting next month and will let you know how the light does in flower. The plants I started and moved outside are at 7' or higher and in week 1 of flower.
 

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TacoMac

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A lot of people told me the mars was POS,
That's because they are.

You can veg under a regular fluorescent grow light equally as well and Mars is completely useless for flowering. You would have been better served to never have bought it to begin with if you were growing outside.
 

Capn-Crunch

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That's because they are.

You can veg under a regular fluorescent grow light equally as well and Mars is completely useless for flowering. You would have been better served to never have bought it to begin with if you were growing outside.
Blah Blah Blah
 

Capn-Crunch

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That's because they are.

You can veg under a regular fluorescent grow light equally as well and Mars is completely useless for flowering. You would have been better served to never have bought it to begin with if you were growing outside.
I started veg under t5's. I'll take the led any day
 

BaROne123

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I had a 30" x 30" tent and a mars 600 like you have. I started 12 plants and put them outside after 1 month in the tent. Under the mars light at 32" above the plants the node spacing and growth was excellent. I just wanted to show you what you can expect from your light in the same size tent. A lot of people told me the mars was POS, but I have no complaints about it at all. I'm going to do an indoor grow starting next month and will let you know how the light does in flower. The plants I started and moved outside are at 7' or higher and in week 1 of flower.
Thank you for the message and encouragement. My plants have so many flowers but they are still to form into anything resembling a bud. Perhaps a couple more weeks required. I have thought about chopping it all down, or maybe get rid of one or two plants. So the remaining can suck up the light?
BTW ... your garden is awesome. :weed:
 

BaROne123

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Is there any reason you cannot get a MH or HPS? A small 400 watter would do you 100 times better.
If you can vent it or have a fan on it, I would seriously consider it. They are cheap, time-tested, and proven. You will also find lots of information on height ect since they have been used for so long.
Just food for thought. It wont use any more juice than a 400w LED.
Thanks for the message.
I would love to go with HPS but I have a height problem and anything else but LED wont give me the safety barrier.
 

coreywebster

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Thanks for the message.
I would love to go with HPS but I have a height problem and anything else but LED wont give me the safety barrier.
170cm is plenty for HPS. With the right plant training.
If your plants are struggling under your low wattage LED then they need condensing. But with that LED you will be lucky to cover 1/4 of your 4x4 properly. Probably cover about 2.5x2 ft max in flower.
This is one of the main reasons those types of LED have a bad rep.

Just stay clear of blurple lights and stick to white light with good efficiency. You want 30-35w per square foot with the right LEDs. 50w per square foot with crap ones.

Did you say you were about half way through flower? Do you have a thread of journal or some pics?
 
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