hellmutt bones
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I had a mom in my livingroom under candlelight.
Maximising yield in a commercial grow
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macsnax
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Or you can give people mids over and over and they look elsewhere. You simply can't do what you want from seed, gotta have proven cuttings.
rkymtnman
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on a bearskin rug with a nice bottle of wine?I had a mom in my livingroom under candlelight.
f series
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Macs right, proven cut is King.
Ever grow few of the same seeds and put same harvest in same container? People will ask wtf you give them constantly. You need to pheno hunt, or put your eggs in one basket, up to you. Regardless, if you want more strains, have more mother's. Do like 30 clones 3 strains. You can have like 9 mothers, doesn't mean you have to run all 9.
Maybe run 3-6 cycles a year?
Would be work but possible.
Ok say I change to cuttings my main room was built with space in mind. It is very difficult to get to the plants once they are in there. As space is tight.
If it will take me 8 weeks per cycle and If only get 1 oz per rooted clone it will be less than I get now. I don’t think I’ve seen anyone on here get more than 1 oz per 12/12 from clone?
If it will take me 8 weeks per cycle and If only get 1 oz per rooted clone it will be less than I get now. I don’t think I’ve seen anyone on here get more than 1 oz per 12/12 from clone?
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I usually don't post on forum but man you're stubborn, nobody is here to make you fail or to break your plans. Let's take another angle and I know it's difficult to change something you have designed. however what do you think is giving you more yield on a 12/12 from beginning basis. An already established plant or a seed?
Now specially with this type of grow you need to run mother because you're not growing for you but for clients and they like consistency, they're not like a casual grower looking for new strains. Yes they will like to have choices, but from a business perspective you need to be able to find your product that will bring you your main turn over and this will be easier with mom's. Easy reproductable clone and consistency. Then you'll look for strain/pheno hunt in order to find other killer strains.
Moreover on cycling, it will be faster with clones if they're totally rooted before going in you grow wall you'll win one to 2 weeks.
Basically if I was you I will be looking for something like grapefruit, bubble bomb, big bud, desfràn, C99 etc maintaining 45 slots for them and doing and testing new strains on the other 45 slots.
Regarding your space management issue, look at bonsaï moms (perfect for your sloped roof), maybe you will be able to dial in everything and maintain your DWC system and your grow wall without the need to mix strain, 90 wall 90 dwc.
The last thing I would consider is factoring the inputs prices. basically your clones are near to nowhere regarding seed prices even in bulk. you could maintain 18 bonsaïs moms 5X5' space (and take 20 cuttings every 3 weeks) under 150w neon or even better led strip.
Good luck bro on your journey
Ps : sorry for my English not native speaker
Now specially with this type of grow you need to run mother because you're not growing for you but for clients and they like consistency, they're not like a casual grower looking for new strains. Yes they will like to have choices, but from a business perspective you need to be able to find your product that will bring you your main turn over and this will be easier with mom's. Easy reproductable clone and consistency. Then you'll look for strain/pheno hunt in order to find other killer strains.
Moreover on cycling, it will be faster with clones if they're totally rooted before going in you grow wall you'll win one to 2 weeks.
Basically if I was you I will be looking for something like grapefruit, bubble bomb, big bud, desfràn, C99 etc maintaining 45 slots for them and doing and testing new strains on the other 45 slots.
Regarding your space management issue, look at bonsaï moms (perfect for your sloped roof), maybe you will be able to dial in everything and maintain your DWC system and your grow wall without the need to mix strain, 90 wall 90 dwc.
The last thing I would consider is factoring the inputs prices. basically your clones are near to nowhere regarding seed prices even in bulk. you could maintain 18 bonsaïs moms 5X5' space (and take 20 cuttings every 3 weeks) under 150w neon or even better led strip.
Good luck bro on your journey
Ps : sorry for my English not native speaker
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I usually don't post on forum but man you're stubborn, nobody is here to make you fail or to break your plans. Let's take another angle and I know it's difficult to change something you have designed. however what do you think is giving you more yield on a 12/12 from beginning basis. An already established plant or a seed?
Now specially with this type of grow you need to run mother because you're not growing for you but for clients and they like consistency, they're not like a casual grower looking for new strains. Yes they will like to have choices, but from a business perspective you need to be able to find your product that will bring you your main turn over and this will be easier with mom's. Easy reproductable clone and consistency. Then you'll look for strain/pheno hunt in order to find other killer strains.
Moreover on cycling, it will be faster with clones if they're totally rooted before going in you grow wall you'll win one to 2 weeks.
Basically if I was you I will be looking for something like grapefruit, bubble bomb, big bud, desfràn, C99 etc maintaining 45 slots for them and doing and testing new strains on the other 45 slots.
Regarding your space management issue, look at bonsaï moms (perfect for your sloped roof), maybe you will be able to dial in everything and maintain your DWC system and your grow wall without the need to mix strain, 90 wall 90 dwc.
The last thing I would consider is factoring the inputs prices. basically your clones are near to nowhere regarding seed prices even in bulk. you could maintain 18 bonsaïs moms 5X5' space (and take 20 cuttings every 3 weeks) under 150w neon or even better led strip.
Good luck bro on your journey
Ps : sorry for my English not native speaker
Appreciate your Input buddy but definitely not stubborn I just like to understand what makes someone’s input better. If someone says clones will be better, I’d like to hear experiences and how it’s better as I can’t change my system based on some opinion without understanding it myself
I’m considering the clone angle but atm I’m getting easy 2 oz per plant and each plant takes up 1 sqft of space.
I’m trying to find any evidence that clones can yield anywhere near as much as that with no luck so far. Max I’ve seen is 1 oz from rooted cut.
ChiefRunningPhist
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Seeds get expensive.
Clones ensure consistency.
Clones ensure consistency.
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Renfro
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TBH one should "cheat" with their clones by letting them root really well. I let mine root for 20 days and end up with roots 12 - 14 inches long. They start to grow and do need a light nutrient feed but basically you are vegging them before potting them. So thats a big advantage.
If you wanna veg your clones a little more after potting and use less plants per sqft then that works too but yield in a SoG is pretty much square footage based and any veg beyond a certain point makes no sense.
How much do you yield doing this mate?
I can probably setup an aero cloner and leave the clones rooting for 20-30 days.
How many clones do you do per sq ft?
Lucky Luke
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everyone likes a MILF.I had a mom in my livingroom under candlelight.
What’s that in space mate? As I don’t use a hps and don’t know the coverage. And how many clones in the space
Lucky Luke
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Seeds are great for perso smoke and pheno hunting. $ are in clones. Its just consistency plus clones take less time to flower than a seed plant. Its gotta be an extra harvest a year.
Put down 30 fem seeds cull 10 and ur left with 20, maybe 15 will be decent... Clones a known quantity.
Plus no pollen floating around.
I know one outdoor grower who pops 70 regs to keep 15.
Put down 30 fem seeds cull 10 and ur left with 20, maybe 15 will be decent... Clones a known quantity.
Plus no pollen floating around.
I know one outdoor grower who pops 70 regs to keep 15.
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I have 110 RQS critical to plant in a week or so. I’ll look into how to pheno hunt on those
Here’s a full view of my vertical system...
At the canopy using an apogee par meter I am getting 900-1100ppfd.
I transplanted all these plants into the vertical wall yesterday they were all straight stemmed plants from the dwc system.
Since putting them in the vertical wall the tips have started pointing up and side branches are pointing up.
Any ideas why they aren’t pulling directly to the light and seem to be turning upwards?
At the canopy using an apogee par meter I am getting 900-1100ppfd.
I transplanted all these plants into the vertical wall yesterday they were all straight stemmed plants from the dwc system.
Since putting them in the vertical wall the tips have started pointing up and side branches are pointing up.
Any ideas why they aren’t pulling directly to the light and seem to be turning upwards?
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Mechanicalbuds
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Hi y'all. My 2 cents is I'm about the same situation. I started with flowering 42 plants. As time goes on I found its easier to use 16 and veg for 14 to 20 days. I cut clones, veg them, and when I harvest my flood and drain, my pre vegged clones go in the same night. I get 5 runs a year doing 10 week cycles. (2 weeks to stretch, 8 to flower)