Medical Grow – Coco, 1200w. [Himalayan Gold & OG Kush]

wonderblunder

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If it were me, I probably couldn't help experimenting with new mediums/ techniques. I think if you are happy with the results, just stay with coco and dial it in. With a new medium there are bound to be many questions, and a whole new learning curve. Its the small things that count
 

bender420

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If it were me, I probably couldn't help experimenting with new mediums/ techniques. I think if you are happy with the results, just stay with coco and dial it in. With a new medium there are bound to be many questions, and a whole new learning curve. Its the small things that count

Right on bro. At the end of the day, it is in my nature to experiment around.

I will probably be trying 2/3 coconot and 1/3 vermicrop soil amendment.

http://www.vermicrop.com/product_details.php?products_id=6

http://www.vermicrop.com/product_details.php?products_id=4

I talked to a company rep, they apparently guaranteed that 2/3 coconot and 1/3 vermicrop soil amendment would give better results than coco, that convinced me enough to at least give it a shot. I managed to get some samples of both so I will try 2 plants in coconot/vermi mix and 4 in coco (which I know works great).

They suggested using organics, but i did ask them about coco nutes since that is what i have at the time. They said it should work very well.

I will try it and let you know how it worked.

My guess is that it is gonna turn out similar to coco. Only time will tell how good this product is as it is very new. I am always hoping for new and better stuff to come out. As much as I love coco, it would be pretty cool to have medium very similar to coco that would out perform it. Then we would need a new coconot thread.
 

bender420

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FUCK FUCK FUCK!

I spotted a small nug full of seeds on the Himalayan Gold.

Man I was so happy until now. I was really hoping my HG wouldn't herm because I have hear numerous folks have had their HG cross dress on them.

I am ultra pissed. Once in a while I would spot a pollen sac and remove it, but fuck this nug was pregnant all the way.

FUCK FUCK I tried looking closely but couldn't find any more pregnant buds, but I could be wrong because the seeds are so well hidden.

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK I am feeling so shitty about this. :sad0123::sad0123:


What the FUCK FUCK FUCK should I do.

I am seriously gonna fuckin cry, if I loose this crop, I cannot imagine being in pain for another few months.
 

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theloadeddragon

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Let the seeds develop, keep going, keeping pulling any pollen sacs you find, be happy with what there is in the end, it will still get you stoned ;), whats been expose has been exposed there really isn't anything you can do about that, take a break after harvest and dissinfect the whole flower room with antibacterials etc. ;) Be happy to have more seeds, hermie tendencies can be bred out ;)
 

bender420

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Let the seeds develop, keep going, keeping pulling any pollen sacs you find, be happy with what there is in the end, it will still get you stoned ;), whats been expose has been exposed there really isn't anything you can do about that, take a break after harvest and dissinfect the whole flower room with antibacterials etc. ;) Be happy to have more seeds, hermie tendencies can be bred out ;)

thanks for your input dragon.

what do bananas look like, do they look like open seeds that contain pollen. I have been spotting these all around and they are all open and burned looking. I think my HG might just be fucked.

I trashed the fuckin beans cuz I was so mad, regardless even if they have a chance of having the hermie gene, i dont want me or anyone to have these genetics. Plus I don't have any time to bred out the trait. I have a limited budget and time to grow some decent medicine for my pain.

Fuck Himalayan Gold, it will be replaced by casey jones.
 

bender420

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Holy shit I am spotting mildew all over the place, the OG is the main victim. I don't know how to lower the humidity any more it at 30-40 percent at the moment. There is no standing water. I do have milder cure and penetrator, but i guess it is too late for that.

Dammit, what should I do guys, I am on day 44-45 should I start flushing and chop them soon, before the problems get worse.

I need help really bad what should I do.

On top of that I did find another small pregnant nug, I spent an hour under the fucking lights, my neck is burnt I am tripping fucking balls.♠
 

bender420

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have been reading up on PM, and it seems that it is impossible to control in late flowering I don't want it to spread to the buds, I am really considering starting the flush and then chopping in a couple of days.
 

#1Raiderfan420

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have been reading up on PM, and it seems that it is impossible to control in late flowering I don't want it to spread to the buds, I am really considering starting the flush and then chopping in a couple of days.

Bro I am so bummed to hear this si going on for you. Do you have room to put a heater in the room to try and dry out the RH a little more? I wish I had some advice on this, but as you know I am right where your at with experience.

I did find this ona 420 mag link..don't have any experience on it though..

* Alkaline water:
Alkaline water can affect powdery mildew, as mildew cannot grow in basic conditions. Mist plants generously with water at 8.0+ pH frequently; discontinue when buds begin to mature to prevent budrot.

[Editor's note: this does work and is effective in late flower. Alkaline water does not seem to affect buds or bud hairs. The effect is temporary, but drastically slows mildew grow and spread. Reapply every 4-5 days.]

Here is the link-----> http://www.420magazine.com/forums/how-grow-marijuana/72170-how-do-i-recognize-control-prevent-powdery-mildew.html


If I find anything else I will let you know. I have also heard of removing the leaves and buds with mildew and leaving the rest, but again I have no expereince with this. I am pulling for you though Bro.
 

bender420

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I just picked out like a 100 bananas, FUCK FUCK, it is virtually impossible for me to find and pick every banana. What are the chances that everything will get pregnant in another 15 days.

Also I just spent a fucking hour picking out the mildew effected leaves. I also removed the dinky nugs in the bottom which would never make it up anyways. Mildew isn't spread to the buds up top but just in the bottom dinky nugs. Some of the big fan leaves have a tiny bit as well. I removed everything I could see with PM.

I rather chop early and have less crop than to risk bud rot.

I have added some more fans to re-circulate the air in the room. If the PM keeps getting worse I am chopping around the 50th day mark.
 

bender420

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Bro I am so bummed to hear this si going on for you. Do you have room to put a heater in the room to try and dry out the RH a little more? I wish I had some advice on this, but as you know I am right where your at with experience.

I did find this ona 420 mag link..don't have any experience on it though..

* Alkaline water:
Alkaline water can affect powdery mildew, as mildew cannot grow in basic conditions. Mist plants generously with water at 8.0+ pH frequently; discontinue when buds begin to mature to prevent budrot.

[Editor's note: this does work and is effective in late flower. Alkaline water does not seem to affect buds or bud hairs. The effect is temporary, but drastically slows mildew grow and spread. Reapply every 4-5 days.]

Here is the link-----> http://www.420magazine.com/forums/how-grow-marijuana/72170-how-do-i-recognize-control-prevent-powdery-mildew.html


If I find anything else I will let you know. I have also heard of removing the leaves and buds with mildew and leaving the rest, but again I have no expereince with this. I am pulling for you though Bro.

Thanks bro for your input. I have no space for a heater.

I did remove everything I spotted with mildew. I did read what you mentioned, but I am just too scared to put spray anything on, because the last thing I want is bud rot, which I think is really hard to avoid when flowers are wet.
 

wonderblunder

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Fuck man, That doesn't sound good at all. THose bananas are sneaky. If they cracked open then I believe they pollinated. I am very careful when touching them and remove the plant from the grow room to trim them off. Should still be some good quality smoke though!
 

SnowWhite

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Dude....wtf....I'm out of here for a couple of days and all of a sudden you have hermies and seeds and mildew. again.....wtf! You never mentioned you'd been pulling off pollen sacks. That's a pretty useless exercise though man. There's little stopping nature at that time. How many of your HG hermed? I kill hermies with no mercy the moment I spot them. Unless it's just the last couple of weeks of flower. Weeks 3 to 5 is when to keep a REAL close eye out for the little yellow nannas man.

Fuck man....don't know what to say. That's a real shame bro! Such a fine grow. I really feel for ya man. We've all been there. Shitty genetics ruining good genetics in the same room. Like loaded has said, not much you can do man. Let them finish and then clean your room and start over. It's a depressing situtation for sure, I have been there myself.

With such a low RH, the mildew can only be caused from lack of airflow around the lower branches. You've got them pretty crammed in. Maybe try and have a fan running at pot level as well next time round, blowing around under the plants to keep the air moving.

Sorry for all your problems though man.
 

Don Gin and Ton

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ditto how the fuck did all this happen in two pages of the thread?!?!? 100 bananas?!? shit bro if shes putting that many out pull it she/he aint putting energy into bud production anymore or thc its all into the seeds. flush and pull.

as snowy says an oscillating fan round the bottom of your trees is a good plan. man i feel for you, ive had it happen as most have and its a f@ckin b!tch.

shitty genetics is a real bitch i recently found open flower naners on one of my blue mystics far too late to do anything about it. take it on the chin man and next time youll know to be on top of the plants in the latter weeks.

rough deal man, but dont let it get you down it will still get you good n high
 

bender420

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I know guys, its been shitty. I never looked too closely before, i just pulled a nanner here and there before, thinking it was because I took some pix in the dark.

Anyhow I have added 3 fans to move the air. I am hoping the mildew will be under control to some extent. Only got 15 days left to hit the 60 day mark.

I am on top of the nanners, it was my lack of knowledge on what to look for. No more HG, it will be replaced by better genetics.

I did mention to the person whom I got the HG from about HG being on a hermie list on forums. But I was assured that this is good shit.

Even though I was pissed earlier, it has been a great lesson.

I have gotten some excellent genetics lined up for the next round, as soon as these bitches are out the new ones will go on 12/12 after 1 week of training.

My gut says I will pull off more than enough till the next round. Everything aside the HG and OG look dank as fuck at this point.

Ready for next round: 2x Casey Jones, 2x Blue Dream, 2x OG Kush

Sulfur burner will be used durinf the next grow to deal with the PM, it seems that many folks around here even with low humidity and decent airflow end up getting PM their last 2-3 weeks.
 

Don Gin and Ton

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yeah ive seen more and more pm lately bender i think its the change in weather and temps, in the uk at least couldnt say for over the pond but i imagine you guys have a shift in seasonal temps etc too

looks like some fine genetics coming up! stay up dude your almost to the finish line.
 

bender420

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yeah ive seen more and more pm lately bender i think its the change in weather and temps, in the uk at least couldnt say for over the pond but i imagine you guys have a shift in seasonal temps etc too

looks like some fine genetics coming up! stay up dude your almost to the finish line.

Thanks for the encouragement Donny.

Bro it is the same thing here, I have talked to more than a dozen people dealing with PM, most of them have been PM free for years.

I am trying to think very positively about this grow, I think these bitches will pull through, even though HG fucked it self it is growing to be a fat ass bitch.

I am extremely excited for the upcoming genetics. No question on the genetics for the next round, they are from a very legit medical source with good reputation among patients.

Also I have 15 of those free Skunk DNA freebies. I reckon at least a few will be keepers out of those.
 

Don Gin and Ton

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yeah freebies and bagseeds surprise you most of the time by being classy little bitches haha reminds me ive got a few mystery beans im gonna pop tonight sensi star x sweet purple and satori x white widow.

here's to keepers and fat buds! CHEERS
 

mr west

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the man knows his business bender. genetics style and i hear hes a pretty good golfer ;)
who told you that ill have em lol? In my opinion coco is the way forward if u cant be arsed to go full hydro. I havent got it fully dialed in yet but the first crack was worth trying again lol
 
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