Medicating without getting Baked???

Hey RIU,

I've been doing a little research on Juicing Cannabis, but it is mainly Juicing the leaves that I have been seeing and reading about. Similar to taking a wheat grass Shot.

My question is for my Aunt and myself.

I am in sales and cannot function properly while traditionally medicating (smoking, vaping, edibles). I get back pain and tightness, broke my hip when I was 20 and my leg a couple of years ago. I was a cash patient and the doctors told me that I didn't need surgery. So I was lucky there, but every once in a while my back or my neck goes out and it takes two weeks for it to get back to normal. I try as hard as I can to not take pain killers, I prefer cannabis because it helps and doesn't have a physical addiction.

My aunt has MS and gets dizzy spells. She has trouble walking etc. Do a quick search on MS and you will see all the different things that they go through. My aunt is a firm believer in natural healing and I think that is why she has gone 12 years since a real MS episode. However she still has trouble walking. As with anybody with MS she has good and bad days.

Cannabis helps her on the weekends but she has the same issue I do which we cannot be baked while at work because we cannot function properly.

My question is:

Is there a way to medicate without getting baked? As in can I get the back and pain relief that is needed without being so stoned or still being able to talk to customers.

Also, I am interested in any links that relate cannabis to MS. I really hate seeing my aunt struggle with walking. If I can find some study, any study that shows a positive result (especially when it comes to walking) it would make her day. She is willing to try pretty much whatever but I need to believe that it will work and I will be guinea pig before giving her anything.

I hope all of this came out clear.

Thanks in advance RIU!!!

If you can make hash oil and not get it hot you can eat that like the Rick Simpson oil. It will not get you high but will help a lot of things. De not decarburize it.

have you tried a high CBD low THC plant?
I have heard of some strains with less than 1% thc, and some plants that are above 20% CBD.
I just received some high CBD seeds I want to try to grow. See how that helps me, maybe can use it during the day, or maybe I just get MAJOR couchlok...

im working on the same thing for my uncle who is in need of major back surgery, and who has a pain specialist dr who will kick him out of the pain clinic if he tests positive for THC. I have a cbd strain im trying to utilize for him. supposedly the cbd strains is about 7%thc and 8% cbd or around those number. from my understanding the ONLY way THC can be activated is by smoking or heating past 190*f when injesting. if I make an injestable oil, and NOT heat the oil at all, this should negate any psychoactive properties in the medicine ill make for him. thus only allowing the cbd to do the work w/o any "high" or him being kicked out of his pain management clinic and losing his pain meds.

Lord Lonnis said:

have you tried a high CBD low THC plant?
I have heard of some strains with less than 1% thc, and some plants that are above 20% CBD.
I just received some high CBD seeds I want to try to grow. See how that helps me, maybe can use it during the day, or maybe I just get MAJOR couchlok...

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You know what. I haven't researched CBD at all actually. Only thing the Cannabis doctors say is smoke indica for pain and sativa for your brain. A little more detailed but that about sums up what they know or care to tell you.

@Da Mann I'll do a search on Rick Simpson Oil. I've seen a couple threads on here but never looked into it. Can you msybe give a quick description or a good link?

@DemonTrich - That is biggest crock of shit. Here shove all these pills down your throat but do not have any THC or I'll drop you? Maybe he thinks it'll interfere with the other drugs. But I hate that these f-ing doctors are all about giving people "drugs" but cannabis... Whatever that is a different topic.

Thanks so far guys! Keep it coming please. Links, info, medical studies anything you might think would be relevant. Medicate without getting blitzed!??!

DemonTrich said:

im working on the same thing for my uncle who is in need of major back surgery, and who has a pain specialist dr who will kick him out of the pain clinic if he tests positive for THC. I have a cbd strain im trying to utilize for him. supposedly the cbd strains is about 7%thc and 8% cbd or around those number. from my understanding the ONLY way THC can be activated is by smoking or heating past 190*f when injesting. if I make an injestable oil, and NOT heat the oil at all, this should negate any psychoactive properties in the medicine ill make for him. thus only allowing the cbd to do the work w/o any "high" or him being kicked out of his pain management clinic and losing his pain meds.

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i'm far from an expert on this demon, but my thinking would be even ingesting thc that hasn't been decarbed yet, it would still show up in one's urine or blood or w/e still, no?? just thinking out loud more then anything..
as far as high cbd strains, there are strains like cannatonic from resin seeds, ac/dc from bodhi, and charlotte's web and harlequeen, both of which i think are clones..
i've also seen potroast post on this site, links for a pure cbd liquid.. the price was crazy high from what lil i remember, but you might try contacting the username rollitup, as that's the account potroast uses the most and would probably get the quickest reply from.. hope that helps.. the cbd liquid i do believe is legal in all states as it comes from hemp plants, and contains 0 thc, which would help your uncle out on the pain management place.. i know a few people who all go to them, ad same deal, if you get popped for thc, they stop giving you the pain meds, which we all know is absolutely crazy.

I dunno jack monkey shit about it, BECAUSE it don't get you high.... but what about RSHO? My local dispensary sells syringes of it, dunno what they go for, or how hard it may be to get/make your own... But being hemp oil not cannabis oil, you get CBD n no THC.

i asked a similar ?, my solution was juicing. worked out welll.

@DemonTric there's a cannatonic 4 floating around that's 10:1 cbd:thc have you tried that one yet?

I've been enjoying star tonic that's 50/50. canna x ds or sd, can't remember lol. similar smell to canna4, but w nice kick!

there's so many cbd strains in mi now, maybe 6-8 good ones. a few yrs ago they were still scarce.

Flagg420 said:

I dunno jack monkey shit about it, BECAUSE it don't get you high.... but what about RSHO? My local dispensary sells syringes of it, dunno what they go for, or how hard it may be to get/make your own... But being hemp oil not cannabis oil, you get CBD n no THC.

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i don't know much about it either, pretty much for the same reason, , but from what i know by perusing the concentrate section here, rso is pretty looked down upon from what i understand.. i think he uses a chem for the extraction, other than butane, but i don't remember what it uses tbh, that's what everyone has issues with.. they say there's tons of better chems to use for extractions, butane is a biggy, alcohol, or ice and water..

I'm gonna concentrate on bubble, can't get much cleaner. not a fan of bho. iso shld be ok if you can insure it's all evaporated, I'd trust that more than bho anyday..

abe supercro said:

I'm gonna concentrate on bubble, can't get much cleaner. not a fan of bho. iso shld be ok if you can insure it's all evaporated, I'd trust that more than bho anyday..

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i got a set of bags, and have tried to run a time before, and i didn't let it all settle before i pulled my bags, but i didn't get crap in returns.. so i have been pissed, and haven't run them since. but i've been reading, and have been wanting to give it another run to see where i went wrong last time.. i like the idea of ice, like you said, can't really get any cleaner imo..

Started w the riu frenchy cannoli thread and he has a video er two. guy knows his shit. I have the mini washer. This wld be the only way..!set and forget for a bit w some work still no doubt.. lot of little details in frenchy thread glad I found that.

he discusses proper dying, curing hash and pressing.

abe supercro said:

Started w the riu frenchy cannoli thread and he has a video er two. guy knows his shit. I have the mini washer. This wld be the only way..!set and forget for a bit w some work still no doubt.. lot of little details in frenchy thread glad I found that.

he discusses proper dying, curing hash and pressing.

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yeah, i've read more then one of his threads..i think subcool brought him here, and yeah, he know's his shit for sure, but a lot of people here do..i love reading the concentrate section here, but i don't post much, just read and and absorb for now.. but i'm trying to suck it all up..
i can't afford one of those fancy shmanchy washing machines, though those things look bad ass, i'ld have to do it with a 5 gallon bucket, and i think i have a 5 bag, 5 gallon kit, i'd have to double check, i ran them once and they've been laying around since..
i'd try bho, but a'las, i can't afford a pump and all atm either, being broke sucks.. , but i'm more into the health aspects of ice over bho or alcohol..

@racerboy71
yep
iso alcohol to keep silkscreen clean / been using olive oil for scissors. I don't use fiskars. angled bonsai grape scissors kick ass, but sharp as hell. bubble hash: less trimming

Yeah lots like to hand mix, just as good lil more effort.
three bags may simplify the process. maybe use a wooden er plastic paddle plstc gloves 4cold water. learned that freezing material is a no no for clean product. gotta go easy on trichs. much more water than ice.

i may try the boldt bags (all silk, no canvas sides) >nxt when it's in the budget. Motivators! gonna look up what exact number bags the 'Frenchman' -hash hero- uses.
can't wait to start properly pressing water hash..

pressing decarbs, releases turpines and provides real shelf life when jar cured. lookin frwd to nu type of 'stash'.

i'll wonder over to the concentrates section of riu, good reminder. peace

Im in a similar postion to the OP

The only things that have helped me are certain strains , the high CBD stuff but the low THC does not always work (could be my supplyers as im in a nonfrendly place). I like junaita la lagrimosa

Also a standardized extract is a must otherwise doseing is a guess

I have found their is no such thing as a non-psycoactive strain , they all have effects , but some more than others. This seems to be a personal issue, what works well for some will not for others. the best you can do is try to minimise the negative effects

GOOD LUCK

LIBERTYCHICKEN said:

Im in a similar postion to the OP

The only things that have helped me are certain strains , the high CBD stuff but the low THC does not always work (could be my supplyers as im in a nonfrendly place). I like junaita la lagrimosa

Also a standardized extract is a must otherwise doseing is a guess

I have found their is no such thing as a non-psycoactive strain , they all have effects , but some more than others. This seems to be a personal issue, what works well for some will not for others. the best you can do is try to minimise the negative effects

GOOD LUCK

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the only thing i know of that's 100% cbd, was that oil i've seen pot roast talking about a few times.. it comes from hemp, therefore there's not thc in the plants to begin with..

I have never tryed a 100% cbd extract , but I have tryed several different hemp strains , as well as some wild stuff , All i can say is I bet you guys would kill for my low tolerance

yktind said:

Hey RIU, ...

Is there a way to medicate without getting baked? As in can I get the back and pain relief that is needed without being so stoned or still being able to talk to customers.

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Have you considered making a topical salve that may give you muscle relief? transdermal buzz unlikely. of course a hi-cbd cld only help.. an increase in tolerance wld result from taking ISO hemp oil gradually...

I don't know enough about hemp oils to treat MS but I'll follow and learn. good luck w your aunt!

ive heard of cannatonic, just never found it locally from people I trust (craigslist farmers don't count).

I know how these pain clinics operate. they wanted me to step up to oxycotin from eating 90-750mg vicodens a month to "mask" the pain. they don't want to heal you, as they ant make money from ins companies from "healed" patients. only from ill patients in need (or hooked) on pharmaceuticals. I told them to basically Fvck off and I want ALL my medical records given back to me or ill report them to the state. they didn't appreciate that at all, but gave me my records. it was like a line at a Detroit tigers game, these people waiting for their weekly allowed meds. bunch of crooks and junkies imo.

I got off of eating vicodens with the help of mm, and would love to help my uncle out, but cant jeopardize his pain clinic thing.