Never saw those in my countryInsulated team water jugs, 20 bux a pop, times 6 thats 120 bux, more than reasonable.

Never saw those in my countryInsulated team water jugs, 20 bux a pop, times 6 thats 120 bux, more than reasonable.
Well I suppose dropping bottles of warm water in them during lights out will be ok, a bit annoying having to do it everyday, but it wont be for the whole year. Or I'll have to bite the bullet and get a cheap heater.hmmm well im out of ideas for the time being. Ill see if i can think up anything cheap and creative
Well I suppose dropping bottles of warm water in them during lights out will be ok, a bit annoying having to do it everyday, but it wont be for the whole year. Or I'll have to bite the bullet and get a cheap heater.
At least though I know that it wont actually damage plants that cold, but just slow them up, which isnt too bad. temps are currently 57F in the air pump room, so its not too bad at the moment.
Never saw those in my countryWhat are they? To drop in the containers or to "be" the containers? Because I already have the containers I will be using, not gonna replace them anytime soon.
Well I suppose dropping bottles of warm water in them during lights out will be ok, a bit annoying having to do it everyday, but it wont be for the whole year. Or I'll have to bite the bullet and get a cheap heater.
At least though I know that it wont actually damage plants that cold, but just slow them up, which isnt too bad. temps are currently 57F in the air pump room, so its not too bad at the moment.
My water temps got as low as 58 in the winter and it didnt effect the plant at all, then again this was in flower so a young plant in veg lower temps might slow the growth a little ..
That's possible. I'm dealing with babies so a more mature plant can handle the cooler temps. I saw your results so I'm not going to dispute anything!And now I won't stress out if my water temps drop a bit once they grow up a bit more.
In my current situation, my plants weren't thriving, droopy, yellow, etc. even after fixing everything else! I changed water temps and they became much healthier. As long as this trend continues why change?
I guess it comes down to just watching your plants and let them "tell" you what they need. Let's say, even if they are in 40* water (highly exaggerated) with big healthy green leaves and just a bit of slow growth, why change what's working?
Once you get your grow room temps up your res will warm up too and hold its heat through the dark cycle.
When there is a change in room temp, the res will "hold" its heat a little longer then the room. Just because air is not as good an insulator as water. Also not sure if it has been mentioned but if your pots are directly on a concrete floor it will make the water colder.
And I know it still may not be feasible for your purpose but just wanted to show you that aquarium heaters are cheap and not a huge electricity user. These are only $0.99 on ebay and use 50w of power, they are made to be in ponds and aquairums so i think would be safe enough directly in your res's.
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-50-W-Automa...077?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5ade62abb5
And a lot of people use the frozen water bottles, so i would give the hot water bottles a shot, might be surprised with the results. Have you done this yet?
Thanks for the advice. I have foam underneath the containers for insulation.
I dont think those heaters are 99c, thats just the starting price and they dont ship to my country
also an extra 300w total is a fair bit.
I havent tried the water bottles yet, still waiting on some parts (shipped, but not delivered), as soon as i get them I can test the whole thing out. If your saying that the water holds heat longer than air and warmer air temps will heat the water, il probably be ok as I have an air heater for the intake for "lights off" so that should keep the air temps in acceptable range and at the same time keep the containers at the right temp. As soon as i get the rest of the parts il test run it and see where im at.
So getting those air temps up in the grow room is really the only way to go?
What if the air temps are perfect in the grow room, but the air pump is getting air from another room which has colder air. Will it still not cool the water to some degree?
thanks for the link. I'll have a good look at that.
Sounds like you have the exact kind of setup im doing. controlled air with fan controller and controlled air intake and exhaust. Did this fix or minimize your water temp problems?
Yes it's what I believe from experience. I've been battling water temps for almost a year now. First it was too hot and I had brown slimy roots. Then I try again in winter and now it's too cold. Both time though, I kept trying to fix the water, while just ignoring and living with high Air Temps (88*) in summer and low air temps in winter (62*). So now I've changed it up. The cabinet is sealed and insulated. Air only enters the cab from where I want it to come in. I now try and make sure that incoming air is between 65* and 75*. I do this by hooking my fans up to a fan controller and controlling how fast air is moved through the cabinet. If it's too cold I slow down the fans and let the light heat things up. If it's too hot, I speed the fans up and get rid of the heat. Below is a link to my grow journal right at the point where I'm dealing with this. Read from this point forward and see if this all doesn't make sense for you.
https://www.rollitup.org/dwc-bubble...row-perpetual-mini-scrogs-10.html#post5131587