Most stable fem seeds..?

ive been growing some of his strains for a long time, any plant can hermi,
if you go over to organics you can talk to the people growing his strains and ask them,,hey you had any hermies?
simple
im sure all the old times are just old fashioned and stupid though,

BDOGKush said:

You seem to have a lot of issues with hermies, maybe it's not the seeds but the grower.

A clone that didn't hermi when it was flowered the first time, only hermied after being given to a bunch of people with different growing environments.

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It never got flowered out the first time. The guy grew the mther from seed and then pedaled them all over town. The plant hermed for everyone and a lot of people were mad. Shitty ethics by the clone seller. I didnt run that cherry pie, i got mine from a different source so mines good.

althor said:

I always have, and always will laugh about TGA and his stance on fem seeds.

Just do a quick google on TGA hermies and see how many hundreds upon hundreds of hermie reports come from his seeds.

I grow regulars and fems in every batch. I have had some fems that hermied and I have had some regs that hermie.
It is part of the nature of cannabis. Breeding that trait out isnt easy.

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whats his stance on fem seeds? He offers them doesnt he? Im running a first run right now with jillybean. I hope it stays straight.

Alienwidow said:

whats his stance on fem seeds? He offers them doesnt he? Im running a first run right now with jillybean. I hope it stays straight.

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To quote him "fems are for pussies".
Basically, every myth or negative that is repeated about female seeds is his stance.
I grow both regular and fems in every batch. I love males, I am a pollen collector.
But I have had GREAT plants from fem and I have had GREAT plants from reg.
I also have had the opposite from both as well. It isnt the feminizing, bad breeders are bad breeders whether its fems or regs.
Bad genetics are bad genetics in both forms.
Female Seeds, Sweet Seeds, Dinafem Seeds all have had very stable plants in my experiences. I recommend all three companies and basically what they describe is what you are going to get. I like that. I enjoy the pheno hunt, but I also like to have that consistency I can depend on as well.

you could get a real nice keeper out of jilly bean, fire plant good producer ,around 9 weeks finish time,great flavor,
it can fox tail and I find that annoying as hell

Alienwidow said:

1. Heres what i dug up.
   How do you get feminised seeds
   Introduction: During the 1960's and 1970's some cannabis breeders took
   to experimenting with Colchicine. Colchicine, a powerful mutagen for
   both man and beast, stops cell duplication, while the cellcore
   duplication continues the same. The end result is a doubling or more of
   the chromosome set. This treatment can be beneficial to cannabis
   because it enforces many properties such as higher production of thc and
   resistance to disease.What also resulted, when gender chromosomes
   doubled, is that male or female chromosomes appear manifold, called
   Hermaphrodites. What's the plant to become? It becomes all at once.
   The result is called feminized or effeminate seed.Genetically, a
   cannabis plant is more or less predisposed to become male or female.
   This is regulated by 2 chromosomes everyone knows as
   the X and Y chromosomes. A plant with 2 XX chromosomes becomes female.
   A plant with an X and Y turns into a male. Plants have hormones that
   regulate it's functioning, of which gender is one of those functions.
   The hormone balance is genetically determined, and partly influenced by
   environmental factors. An example is when plant roots get
   damaged. The roots will produce a substance that in turn slows down
   leaf growth. The result is male flowers. When discussing hormone balance
   you get FEMALE SEED: a female is a plant with XX or only female
   chromosomes.When you have a seed with just X chromosomes, you are
   certain this seed will grow into a plant that is genetically female.
   To achieve the XX only plant: a female plant is forced by a hormone
   called Gibberellic Acid to produce male flowers, the pollen created
   contains only X chromosomes, when you offer this pollen to another
   female plant you can be absolutely certain to get seeds which are
   100% XX. Once again this seed is called FEMALE SEED. Gibberellic Acid
   can be found in online. It takes years for an individual to achieve the
   proper plant hormone manipulation to get 100% female XX seed.
   Supplies therefore fluctuate and there are many different strains
   available worldwide.

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So this is referring to polyploid plants and not strictly speaking feminized plants. Every plant has the capacity to hermi which is how this plant has survived. What's in question is how easy it is for the strain to do that. Temp drops to 60 degrees and makes male flowers? To me that would not be a keeper. Strain can take some abuse with light stresses and nute stresses? That's a candidate for breeding or a place in the room. What we have is a market full of "breeders" that aren't working the strain long enough for stability and quality or aren't giving a shit because it's so easy to make seeds and once they are paid it doesn't matter. Hopefully that will balance out in the coming years with reliable quality seed companies staying on top. I like the variety that reg seeds give me, but would make some fems if I needed to save a pheno. I love growing seeds out, but my biggest gripe is that I waste space and time on plants that suck. That's also the most fun thing about growing unstable seeds. Loff is lock a box a chocklates.....

A whole other topic to discuss is whether you can influence the gender of your seedlings. My experience is that yes, you can. This is what Dutch Passion has to say about it:
Info on Feminized Seeds
In an experiment done in 1999 we grew 15 varieties of feminized seeds. We started with 30 seeds per variety. The goals were: 1) to determine the percentages of female, male, and hermaphroditic plants. 2) to compare the uniformity (homogeneity) among plants from feminized seeds with those grown from regular seeds. 1. The results were excellent. Nine out of fifteen varieties had 100% female offspring. Percentages of female plants from the other 6 varieties were between 80 and 90%. These plants were all hermaphrodites, producing their male flowers at the end of their lifecycle. Seed setting hardly took place. No males were found. 2. Approximately 70% of the plants of varieties grown from feminized seeds were far more uniform than plants grown from regular seeds of the same variety. About 20% of the varieties were a little more uniform, while in 10% of the varieties no difference in uniformity was seen. From literature and our own findings it appears that the growth of a male or female plant from seed, except for the predisposition in the gender chromosomes, also depends on various environmental factors. The environmental factors that influence gender are: a higher nitrogen concentration will give more females. a higher potassium concentration will give more males. a higher humidity will give more females. a lower temperature will give more females. more blue light will give more females. Fewer hours of light will give more females. It is important to start these changes at the three pairs of leaves stage and continue for two or three weeks, before reverting to standard conditions. To produce our feminized seeds, we start with selected female clones. Under standard conditions these female clones do not produce any male flowers. By the method we found, we are able to have these female clones produce abundant male flowers and pollen (see photos). The pollen thus produced we use for the production of our feminized seeds

Wow didn't know there were so many views on fem seeds.

calicocalyx said:

So this is referring to polyploid plants and not strictly speaking feminized plants. Every plant has the capacity to hermi which is how this plant has survived. What's in question is how easy it is for the strain to do that. Temp drops to 60 degrees and makes male flowers? To me that would not be a keeper. Strain can take some abuse with light stresses and nute stresses? That's a candidate for breeding or a place in the room. What we have is a market full of "breeders" that aren't working the strain long enough for stability and quality or aren't giving a shit because it's so easy to make seeds and once they are paid it doesn't matter. Hopefully that will balance out in the coming years with reliable quality seed companies staying on top. I like the variety that reg seeds give me, but would make some fems if I needed to save a pheno. I love growing seeds out, but my biggest gripe is that I waste space and time on plants that suck. That's also the most fun thing about growing unstable seeds. Loff is lock a box a chocklates.....

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i like your post but, well i might as well piss off all the good members today including you. The article starts by saying how to make feminised seeds. It doesnt say anything about polyploid plants. What part is talking about twins that you see? Does gibberelic acid cause polyploids or something?

black jesus said:

Wow didn't know there were so many views on fem seeds.

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Its great isnt it! You thought you were just going to get some opinions, instead your getting a history lesson, tons of tips, youll be able to make your own fem beans now, annnnd you even got your question answered a couple of times. Congrats.

http://cannabis.com/growing/advanced_breeding-what-is-colchicine-and-how-is-it-used.html

I'm not defending fem seeds one way or the other, just saying what others have said, it's about the stability and stress resistance inherited. I have a buddy that has ranted about colchicine and polyploid plants and that people have tainted the genetics that we have today. Don't really know much about it, but wanted to clarify that making fem seeds with silver is not the same as what people are trying to do with colchicine.

Interesting that dutch passion calls those female plants with nanners, hermaphrodites. I would agree and not want them around at all. So I would rather search through regular seeds to find a good one, than search through fems with a higher chance of herms, but again it's probably down to breeder and genetics.

Female seeds is good. I grew the c99, lemon kush and got a pure Ak going now they are all really good, no hermies. How much has your blueberry head band flowered? I have one of those growing too. It did look weird when it was vegging, it was bushy and looking like it would be too leafy but its a lot nicer now that its budding.

It's only about a month old but it was growing very slow so I threw it outside

Anyway, to get back to the point of this OP.

Female Seeds- pretty much anything, but the C99 is standout.
Sweet Seeds- Ganesh Spirit, Psicodelicia, Wild Rose, Green Poison (NOT AUTOS)
Dinafem- pretty much anything.
Delicious Seeds- Sugar Black Rose

Any of the above will give you stable, good, vigorous plants, with good to very good buzzes.

Generally only Hermie from growing conditions/stress /improper breeding. If you have time reg seeds you can find the mother and keep cloning high quality but fems can consistently produce 15% + thc in my opinion if you get the right strain with good genetics from a reputable breeder.

Alienwidow said:

So if you got a problem or anyone has a problem with my first hand knowledge, or my reposting shit i read about your feminised seeds then come at me bro. Im in a bad place right now and i dont mind tellin anyone where to go or how to get there right now.

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You just had to throw your little shit fit at the end didn't you ? People like you are no kind of help to this community. Your in a bad place right now ? So are a lot of people. So I invite you to go fuck off.

Cobnobuler said:

You just had to throw your little shit fit at the end didn't you ? People like you are no kind of help to this community. Your in a bad place right now ? So are a lot of people. So I invite you to go fuck off.

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And what kind of people are people like me? Fuck you too dawg.