my 3 stages of flower

Another Realm

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Looks familiar, i have a similar setup...What are your clone water temps at? I'm also wondering why you ditched the wort chillers, I know you said you didn't need them but why remove the whole system rather then leaving it in place just in case? Do you use hygrozyme or multizyme or something to clean roots and protect against rot?
 

superstoner1

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Never monitor clone temps, but shouldn't be any warmer than 77 since room is regulated. Why leave something that is not needed and has to be worked around? My res temps run 66-72 without using chillers and I use aqua shield and pondzyme. Why waste the energy when that could be more light or ac power? Sold the worts and old chiller but still have a nice 1/2hp HD chiller for sale.
 

Another Realm

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I understand, I figured it was something like that or cleaning them when you don't even use them. I have been using this system for the last 15 years on and off and have never had the great results I always hear about, most I made per light was a pound, but mostly only harvested 10-11 oz per light. I have had an approach of always overcompensating on every factor of growing. I have huge airflow through my lights constant temps in the rooms, even fuzzy cO2, botanicare advanced h&g nutes, I always was frustrated in the end, I always had beautiful buds but not enough weight in my opinion. Which brings me to my point,
I used hygrozyme forever for rot protection, and never had much rot as far as knew. I had some brown roots in the end but I figured with all the "brown" shit I put into there reservoir(ie karma, pure blend,blah ) of course the roots would be a little brown. I ran out of hygrozyme and instead of buying more like usual I held off cuz I needed the money. I didn't notice any ill effects thereafter. Until about a month later my flowering crop was yellowing a lot more than usual, and the vegging plants and clones were stalling out and getting browner roots than usual. So after that I got real into investigating wtf was up. After deciding it was the lack of hygrozyme and high water temps (70-76), I got some Dutch master zone and started researching a chiller purchase and a setup that could cool multiple res's without any transfer of material. I went with the Ss wort chillers on a chiller in a control reservoir. That is when I first came along your thread... The DM zone worked wonders and killed the rot immediately while I went to work on cooling the res's. I have some stainless steel bottles circulating chilled water through all my reservoirs now and it is keeping temps perfect! At 64 -66 constant. I've had to replace a couple of my homemade Ss bottle rigs cuz the sealant broke loose and flooded the res with chiller water. I immediately order the wort chillers after the first crappy bottle seal burst open. My flower room looks greener and ridiculously more vigorous and healthy as can be, still with bright white roots even though they are still doused in nutes.


I think that rot has been lurking and sneaking up on me in flower over all these years. I knew about rot and people investing in chillers nut I always felt like I was in control with my hygrozyme. It was not enough alone and without anything my whole setup went to shit fast!


I thought I was a genius with the wort chillers and I thought maybe there was something I had to worry about since you ripped it all out of your system. I can't wait for my chillers to come so I can rip these Ss bottle chingaderas out before another seal blows out... Stupid diy h20 epoxy loctite.


PS. also I never got a chiller, I used an old portable ac unit with the exchanger bent into the chill res. I had a professional chiller in 2006 (1/2hp) and this system kicks its ass hard!! Cheap and way more effective. Ur just paying for a titanium heat exchanger that is nute resistant in the commercial chillers. But since I'm never gonna cross contaminate I don't care if its straight slurpee and vodka chilling my nutes. Or plain water.
 

superstoner1

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Od, I just can't make myself finally get rid of the ww, I have already jarred 5oz from this last plant and have 1-2 more to trim. 6+ from a shitty genetic is hard to comprehend.
 

OLD DUDE

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Well, I told my peeps that I was going to get rid of it and they all said HELL NO!!! They all said they would put up with seeds. I had two that I almost threw away and decided to run them in flower next round. So I guess I'll take clones!! It's my personal favorite too:):) had some problems but gifts will be sent soon!!!!
 

OLD DUDE

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Hey, I have 8 fem Kushberry's that I will be able to take clones from in 2-4 weeks, you want one each to play with or you wanna wait till I pick a couple???
 

superstoner1

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Pick a few for me. I had problems with yours also, I forgot. My damn room is so crowded with ones I was to send out this week.
 

OLD DUDE

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Yeah, my problem was that I let them get too big but I don't think either one of us are in dire need:):) is it just me or does it seem like when you decide to get rid of a strain, the last ones you run are always the best you have ever ran on that strain???:):) had a couple Motivation from Old Growth and they both should be 4-6oz and I never came close to that before:):):)
 

oceangreen

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SS and co.

Stilll on it.

SS is right. I ended up getting rid of all chillers. they are not needed if you vent and keep temps 66-72. why waste energy.


my vggr is 6 totes now.. :/

with 7 fwlr system... woooot
 

georgeforeman

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im back!

sounds like that ww is still kicking around.
My city turned on the shitty winter tap. Always takes a few months to adjust to that crap.
 
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