My First Grow! DIY DWC & Grow Area, SNOW WHITE FEM FROM SEED!
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Shackleford.R
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I think he is talking about the cheap styrofoam coolers. That's not a bad idea, I say fuck it, leave em be and let them do their thing, cloning takes time. You'll start to see white nubs along the stem in a few days, then a few days later full blown roots, few days later you'll see some hairs on those roots. Just wait it out brotha once you see some new growth up top you know you've done it. You're off to a good start don't stress!! Happy cloning!
Shack
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ReefersMcNasty
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when i took clones off of my outdoor plants i just cut them, dipped them in rooting hormone and put them into small cups with peat, perlite and vermiculite and left them in my basement with low light for about a week and they exploded with roots. you could try that and then rinse the roots and put it into the DWC.
Look at my first attempt at cloning in hydro mate
It funked up and looked terrible but it worked out fine.
Are you misting them? You must mist them twice a day at least in the early stages.
Yes I'm talking about FREE styrafoam boxes. A lot of fruit and vegetables is packed into them and the boxes are thrown out. Just go grab some. Shit the styrafoam packaging from your TV or whatever is usually quite thick. My current collars are made out of the styrafoam that was in the box with the last microwave I bought
tmsculli
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Yea I have a shit ton of styrofoam from my 65W cfls. hmm I tried making one today and it didn't go too well. Maybe I'll just pop a hole in the center instead of making a cut in from the side....
I may deal with it tomorrow and try to get it going, but I should study all day before work.
sleep.
I may deal with it tomorrow and try to get it going, but I should study all day before work.
sleep.
tmsculli
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Those ones were DEFINITELY truly lost knickers. I will admit, I was not misting them, so maybe that is the piece of the puzzle I was missing? Like I said, I won't have time to get another go at it until maybe tomorrow afternoon. I will be very careful this run though. I am going to try and do everything as close to text book as I can and see what happens. I am uploading some close up shots I took yesterday of them now, and then I will put up new pictures from today. In some of the pictures you will see that I have buds forming with crystals, but no hairs. This is only apparent with 2 or 3 of the buds though. This being said, I took those pictures yesterday, and decided to add another light closer to those hairless ones. I woke up, bam, we've got hairs. haha
pics up very shortly.
pics up very shortly.
tmsculli
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alright, these are from yesterday which was day 34 of Flower. Some pictures are dark and blurry, but many are really good. I was messing around wiht the 238921391 settings trying to get the best macro set up.
See those smaller ones that are bud with no hair? I fixed that, so the newer pictures will show that. They will be up in a bit.
How are they looking?
See those smaller ones that are bud with no hair? I fixed that, so the newer pictures will show that. They will be up in a bit.
How are they looking?
tmsculli
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I'm really starting to get some significant bud formation on the lower levels and that makes me happy. I was originally unsure about the yield I was going to be getting. I was only seeing development around the main colas, which frustrated me because I spent all that time and effort doing the screen and didn't seem to be gaining anything from it. Now that I have been trimming some leaves in half and focusing on spreading light more evenly to the lower spots, I am really pleased. I don't want to ask that noob question, but at what point can you start estimating yield? Well, pictures for today are uploading now and will be up in about 10 minutes.
Shackleford.R
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i'd say you are doing pretty damn well! that trim job up top seems to be paying off for you. what is your ppm for nutrient solution? if you really want them to start bulking up you should set a goal of about 1400-1500 ppm to really get the buds bulking up and piling on the trichomes. although, you're looking pretty damn frosty, and this is from some bagseed? those leaves look VERY sativa, so you might be late December or early January. Then again, that's all up to you, just need to keep an eye on bud size, "hair color", and (i dont think i ever will, anytime soon) trichome color. Purp can help you out with that more than i can, he takes trichomes MUCH more seriously than most anyone i've seen. Keep up the good work, you're doing well!!
Shack
Shack
i'd say you are doing pretty damn well! that trim job up top seems to be paying off for you. what is your ppm for nutrient solution? if you really want them to start bulking up you should set a goal of about 1400-1500 ppm to really get the buds bulking up and piling on the trichomes. although, you're looking pretty damn frosty, and this is from some bagseed? those leaves look VERY sativa, so you might be late December or early January. Then again, that's all up to you, just need to keep an eye on bud size, "hair color", and (i dont think i ever will, anytime soon) trichome color. Purp can help you out with that more than i can, he takes trichomes MUCH more seriously than most anyone i've seen. Keep up the good work, you're doing well!!
Shack
Never grown under fluoros before, but I'd be willing to wager that PPMs that high would burn the bejesus outta those plants - those are 1000HPS PPMs, not very suitable for fluoros.
Just my $.02,
tmsculli
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Thanks Shack, good to hear from you as usual. I haven't gotten my data for today yet but it fluctuates between like 1000ppm and 1200ppm. Currently it is 1040. I definitely want to do a res swap with new water and nutes this weekend. After I have it at full dosage, then do you just slowly increase to punch up the ppm. I know you have to do this carefully and make sure you don't hurt the plants, but is there any set in stone way to go about doing this? Yea, these are from bagseed. It's funny that you say sativa, because many people earlier on were screaming indica. Now, they used to be very short and squatty and broad leaved, but now they are getting a little spindly. Maybe it has something to do with my light height throughout all of it. I never had any stretching at all so it never got a chance to get lanky. That sucks that I may be looking at such a late harvest time, but I won't sacrifice the bud for an early harvest. I would love to harvest at peak obviously. People always stress the whole trichome thing, but like you said, the hair coloration, curling etc has a lot to do with it too. I'm sure purp will be in here to coach me on it as I get closer haha.
tmsculli
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Bob, what would the difference in lighting do to affect the ppm that the plants can handle? I guess the more and "better" light such as an HPS is going to cause more photosynthesis and production of buds at a faster rate than with cfls. So therefore they can handle using up the additional nutrients? I guess that kind of makes sense.
Correctamundo.
Shackleford.R
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I hovered around 1200-1300 in my last flouro/DWC/drip grow, what i'm saying is based upon what purp and gypsy were always preaching, 1400 ppm. Gypsy was flowering under HPS that was his ppm, and purp was flowering under CFL with the same ppm. I'm sure there is science behind both sides of this, but what it really comes down to is what the plant can handle. I would slowly slowly eek your way towards about 1300 and if they look healthy, bump it a little further. but in reality you would like to see that 1400 mark in the last 2-4 weeks before flush/ripening thats when they put on the most weight. So take your time easing there if you decide to, growing is an art form, we all paint our picture differently.
Shack