newwb
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Hi Ya all..I hope I am starting this correctly, but posted 2x asking how to do a grow journal with no replies. So I am winging it for now.
I'm a 1st time grower, zilch for experience (except tidbits I have picked up from these forums.)
I had a 9x11 room to use for this so I began by using panda film to split the room into equal (so-so) sections. Behind the zipper is my enclosed area for budding, which I am currently using for vegging since I don't have plants I feel are ready for the flowering.
My first purchase was a sunblaze 4' T-5 HO 8 bulb unit, which I was told contains I think 54 watt each bulbs ( had all 8 lamps in the blue spectrum the first 2 weeks but wasn't seeing any amazing growth, so I added 4 red spectrum bulbs for more balance and saw a change, increased growth within a couple days.Then I added a 1,000 watt HPS lamp(belongs to a friend) to the mix until the 2-600 watt MH/HPS units I ordered arrive.
So I started out with a Northern lights and a Romulan x grapefruit plant that was in such dire shape they shouldn't have been sold to me at a disp.
After nursing them a week, the NL died a bad death after much neglect (it was chopped so bad when I got it, like they had taken 12 clones from it then just sold it w/purple stalk and tiny leafs all pointing upward (hey, they SAW me coming a mile away, and apparently knew I didn't know any better. And next I added 5 new clones to my collection, 2-blue rhino, 2-Jack Frost and 1 NYC Diesel.
Of those 5..the NYC D upon transplanting to see why it wasn't growing I noticed had only 1 root! And it just popped off so easily I barely moved the surrounding soil during transplant, so I made a new 45 degree cut, dipped in rooting powder and threw it in a bubble cloner with 6 clipping of ICE.
So..now I have the Rom GF in recovery, it has finally started growing again and I would say even though she was a thick stalked horizontal only branch plant, she's really filling out with lots of new growth.
Oh and I need an experienced eye, of the 5 clones I received, none were labeled, so now I have 4 plants on the table, 2 of each strain, based on them looking identical in growth (one is verry bushy, so bad all the new growth under the canopy is coming in bent/twisted.) other is bushy as well, but about 3-4" behind her sister, think I shocked her with giving her nutes right off the bat when I had soil I didn't know had so many amendments I really didn't need any fertilizers for 3-4 weeks (Roots organics formula 707)
I found my plants holding too much water with this mix,(and getting nute burns) so to my 6 sq yards I added 2 smaller bags of vermiculite to aerate better, and now I give the pots a good squeezing after watering to get 02 down to the roots so they aren't water logged...and I stopped over watering, which I guess is a common newbie mistake.I stopped any nutes x 3 weeks so they could use what was in the soil mix.
Then they started growing better.
My clones in the DIY cloner/bubbler are going on day 14 with only 2 showing a tiny root, high (1") above cutting.
It is a 3 gal pail w/ lid, much like a 5 gal paint container, with 6 holes in top for net pots, inside I put the clippings into neoprene cloning pucks, and pushed down into pot until stem was slightly submerged (I scanned these forums for 2 days trying to figure out if they could sit above the water, or should be in it..found a thread on this an read up..so went with about 1/4" submerged in the PH adjusted 3 drops of super thrive added (1 per gal)bubbler.
I am getting unimpressive results with this cloning method, I did have 3 root for a friend who is also a MMJ patient who needed clones..they popped in 4-8 days in root riot cubes in a dome, but were a predominantly sativa, I am wondering now if type of genetics determines speed of cloning?
Ok, so until my new hydro unit arrives, I just ordered a 12 site ebb & grow unit with a 6 pot expansion set, for 18 sites.I am psyched to set it up and get some baby girls into it!
In a few days when earlier mentioned friend renews her certification, I will be growing 30 plants!
At that time I can add 2 more 6 pot expansions to the ebb & grow for a total of 30 sites.
But until after these are harvested, I will try to get these into flower..I planned originally to start 12/12 this week, but the plants just aren't as tall as I'd like to see them before vegging.
Tallest 2 are 11-13" but are still shooting out with a lot of new growth sites..so I will wait.
One question I have is when my 2 600 watt units arrive, should I go strictly with 2 600 watt MH along with my T-5 for veg? Or can/should I leave the HPS 1000 on them too?
It's ok to use HPS in veg, correct?
Was not in the original plan so I am flying by the seat of my pants here...
Seems the consensus is a 1,000 watt will cover an 8x8 area, plenty right now for all the girls to be under, and I put the T-5 vertical so it is getting hit with that light from the sides, and I rotate plants several time a day so they get even spectrum's.
Hope I am doing ok so far..
My one clone that was 3-4" behind her sister from stunted growth is finally getting busy, but with this strain, soo much energy is being used by the plant to build an almost intimidating network of branches off of branches off the main stem, to the point I couldn't see what was where, so I found a thread on thinning them a bit, and did some snipping of the 3rd gen branches (these 2 bushy girls already have 4+ cola areas from utilizing FIM.
So this is where I am at, I have the first set of pics when I got them..and took more 2 days ago..and I will update every 2-3 days if there is much going on.
Thank you for your time.
I'm a 1st time grower, zilch for experience (except tidbits I have picked up from these forums.)
I had a 9x11 room to use for this so I began by using panda film to split the room into equal (so-so) sections. Behind the zipper is my enclosed area for budding, which I am currently using for vegging since I don't have plants I feel are ready for the flowering.
My first purchase was a sunblaze 4' T-5 HO 8 bulb unit, which I was told contains I think 54 watt each bulbs ( had all 8 lamps in the blue spectrum the first 2 weeks but wasn't seeing any amazing growth, so I added 4 red spectrum bulbs for more balance and saw a change, increased growth within a couple days.Then I added a 1,000 watt HPS lamp(belongs to a friend) to the mix until the 2-600 watt MH/HPS units I ordered arrive.
So I started out with a Northern lights and a Romulan x grapefruit plant that was in such dire shape they shouldn't have been sold to me at a disp.
After nursing them a week, the NL died a bad death after much neglect (it was chopped so bad when I got it, like they had taken 12 clones from it then just sold it w/purple stalk and tiny leafs all pointing upward (hey, they SAW me coming a mile away, and apparently knew I didn't know any better. And next I added 5 new clones to my collection, 2-blue rhino, 2-Jack Frost and 1 NYC Diesel.
Of those 5..the NYC D upon transplanting to see why it wasn't growing I noticed had only 1 root! And it just popped off so easily I barely moved the surrounding soil during transplant, so I made a new 45 degree cut, dipped in rooting powder and threw it in a bubble cloner with 6 clipping of ICE.
So..now I have the Rom GF in recovery, it has finally started growing again and I would say even though she was a thick stalked horizontal only branch plant, she's really filling out with lots of new growth.
Oh and I need an experienced eye, of the 5 clones I received, none were labeled, so now I have 4 plants on the table, 2 of each strain, based on them looking identical in growth (one is verry bushy, so bad all the new growth under the canopy is coming in bent/twisted.) other is bushy as well, but about 3-4" behind her sister, think I shocked her with giving her nutes right off the bat when I had soil I didn't know had so many amendments I really didn't need any fertilizers for 3-4 weeks (Roots organics formula 707)
I found my plants holding too much water with this mix,(and getting nute burns) so to my 6 sq yards I added 2 smaller bags of vermiculite to aerate better, and now I give the pots a good squeezing after watering to get 02 down to the roots so they aren't water logged...and I stopped over watering, which I guess is a common newbie mistake.I stopped any nutes x 3 weeks so they could use what was in the soil mix.
Then they started growing better.
My clones in the DIY cloner/bubbler are going on day 14 with only 2 showing a tiny root, high (1") above cutting.
It is a 3 gal pail w/ lid, much like a 5 gal paint container, with 6 holes in top for net pots, inside I put the clippings into neoprene cloning pucks, and pushed down into pot until stem was slightly submerged (I scanned these forums for 2 days trying to figure out if they could sit above the water, or should be in it..found a thread on this an read up..so went with about 1/4" submerged in the PH adjusted 3 drops of super thrive added (1 per gal)bubbler.
I am getting unimpressive results with this cloning method, I did have 3 root for a friend who is also a MMJ patient who needed clones..they popped in 4-8 days in root riot cubes in a dome, but were a predominantly sativa, I am wondering now if type of genetics determines speed of cloning?
Ok, so until my new hydro unit arrives, I just ordered a 12 site ebb & grow unit with a 6 pot expansion set, for 18 sites.I am psyched to set it up and get some baby girls into it!
In a few days when earlier mentioned friend renews her certification, I will be growing 30 plants!
At that time I can add 2 more 6 pot expansions to the ebb & grow for a total of 30 sites.
But until after these are harvested, I will try to get these into flower..I planned originally to start 12/12 this week, but the plants just aren't as tall as I'd like to see them before vegging.
Tallest 2 are 11-13" but are still shooting out with a lot of new growth sites..so I will wait.
One question I have is when my 2 600 watt units arrive, should I go strictly with 2 600 watt MH along with my T-5 for veg? Or can/should I leave the HPS 1000 on them too?
It's ok to use HPS in veg, correct?
Was not in the original plan so I am flying by the seat of my pants here...
Seems the consensus is a 1,000 watt will cover an 8x8 area, plenty right now for all the girls to be under, and I put the T-5 vertical so it is getting hit with that light from the sides, and I rotate plants several time a day so they get even spectrum's.
Hope I am doing ok so far..
My one clone that was 3-4" behind her sister from stunted growth is finally getting busy, but with this strain, soo much energy is being used by the plant to build an almost intimidating network of branches off of branches off the main stem, to the point I couldn't see what was where, so I found a thread on thinning them a bit, and did some snipping of the 3rd gen branches (these 2 bushy girls already have 4+ cola areas from utilizing FIM.
So this is where I am at, I have the first set of pics when I got them..and took more 2 days ago..and I will update every 2-3 days if there is much going on.
Thank you for your time.
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