My first grow! Updated daily. 400 watt Ebb and Flow - White Berry

mared juwan · Dec 4, 2008

Once your plants get bigger with more leaves they will perspire and raise the humidity on their own. Plus when you get you garden going full speed you are gonna to want the plants in veg as little as possible. I veg my clones for 9 days on average before I switch to 12/12. Many small plants are a lot better than a few huge plants. So what I'm trying to say is veg humidity is not that big a deal. I would put all fund towards optimizing flower conditions. A good dehumidifier is at least $130 but is essential to growing fat buds without mold. After a while you are going to be wishing for the days when LOW humidity was your problem.

kellie420 · Dec 4, 2008

nice looking babies you got there i can wait til my babies get bigger, i'll be watching yours grow

doogleef · Dec 4, 2008

I just picked up a humidifier at target for $19.99 its uses hot mist and raises the temps just to give you a heads up

Thanks for the input, Stoney :mrgreen:

. I know I have one of the old-style "cool-mist" humidifier around here somewhere. The trick is finding it. :lol:

Once your plants get bigger with more leaves they will perspire and raise the humidity on their own. Plus when you get you garden going full speed you are gonna to want the plants in veg as little as possible. I veg my clones for 9 days on average before I switch to 12/12. Many small plants are a lot better than a few huge plants. So what I'm trying to say is veg humidity is not that big a deal. I would put all fund towards optimizing flower conditions. A good dehumidifier is at least $130 but is essential to growing fat buds without mold. After a while you are going to be wishing for the days when LOW humidity was your problem.

M J,
With an RH of 20% I am hoping I do not need a dehumidifier. Air is really dry here year around so my fingers are crossed that I can keep my flowers under ~40% without help.

nice looking babies you got there i can wait til my babies get bigger, i'll be watching yours grow

Thanks for stopping by, Kellie. Welcome. So far so good. :joint:

Just over 2 hours till lights on, then it's transplant time

:peace:

Hydrokronics · Dec 4, 2008

you need to bring up your RH in your room for veg. 20% is way low

might be ok for flower but that will deffinetly slow down your veg growth. get a humidifier for veg and then just leave it off during flower

doogleef · Dec 4, 2008

Hi Hydro. Fix for RH is in the werx ;-)

Transplant is done. Formal update later tonight w/ pics.

beennoobed · Dec 4, 2008

lookin forward to the pics

doogleef · Dec 5, 2008

70-79F 20% RH (Looking for cool mist humidifier. I'm pretty sure it is hiding behind the holiday stuff :lol:

)
Lights - 4-6"
Transplanted today :hump:

My Moms are in their new homes. The pics below are about 15 mins after transfer. And now, 10 hours later they are still happy. No droop yet :mrgreen:

I was going to label Mallory (DP) so I could tell it from the WB but in looking it is already very easy to tell the more sativa hybrid. :bigjoint:

The Indicas are much rounder already.

I have decided to go with FloraNova Bloom 1-part from GH at 8ml/g. Should give me about 1000ppm @ .5 from start to finish. No flush. The updated "Lucas Formula". I have really good water (65-75PPM) so I am hoping I can get away with NOT using a lot of PH adjustment besides the nutes. If I can get away with that then I will not change the res for the entire flower cycle. FNG is close enough to what the plant actually consumes that it should not burn as long as I keep my PPM and PH in range. When the res gets to about 800-850, just add back nutes with the top-up water at 2ml/g to start. That should get me back to 950-1000ppm. I know I am rambling and probably confused some readers there so if you have any questions please ask.

bongsmilie

doogleef · Dec 5, 2008

Lights on in just over an hour. Then I can check on my transplant patients. :leaf:

doogleef · Dec 6, 2008

70-80F - 21% RH
Lights - 4-6" from plants
Still no nutes

The girls have positive growth just 1 day after transfer :clap:

There is a generous amount ~15-25% of Higromite in the soil. 1 layer in the bottom and 1 layer 1/2 way up the pot. That stuff is AWESOME. It retains and evaps a huge amount of water in a small amount of time. I can't wait to use it in hydro :joint:

I plan on switching on the 400 for veg in a few days. Here are the latest pics :blsmoke:

mared juwan · Dec 6, 2008

Looking good. I say you pop on the 400 right now but I think I've already said that LOL.

doogleef · Dec 6, 2008

mared juwan said:
Looking good. I say you pop on the 400 right now but I think I've already said that LOL.

Think so? I don't want to burn them... :fire:

mared juwan · Dec 6, 2008

Check it out. These are my first plants from 9 months ago before I had a decent camera. I had MH on from 3rd day. They loved it.

doogleef · Dec 6, 2008

70-80F - 21% RH
Lights - 4-6" from plants
Still no nutes

No new news today. The girls are happy in their new pots. :hump:

400W gets fired up tomorrow :blsmoke:

. That will hopefully reduce veg time for my moms. I hope to have enough growth to FIM the girls and force branching in about a week. Maybe two. Here are today's pics.

doogleef · Dec 6, 2008

mared juwan · Dec 7, 2008

Very nice. I notice you only wet part of the soil. I've heard of people doing this for seedlings to encourage root growth but I'm of the opinion that it is far healthier to thoroughly soak the pot and wash out everything that was in there before. When roots uptake nutrients they leach things like salt into the medium so flooding everything and letting the excess drain out the bottom of the pot gets rid of all that junk. Then just lift the pot everyday until it feels empty. That's when the medium is dry and ready again for water.

doogleef · Dec 7, 2008

Hi M J,

Thanks for the input about watering. I watered with a few ounces of water per plant the first couple of times. I just watered for the day and they all got twicw what they did yesterday. Probably 4-5oz of water each. The soil should be nice and moist all the way through. We will see if it needs water again tomorrow. Formal update w/ pics later. :joint:

cruzer101 · Dec 7, 2008

Hey Doog,

Just stopped by to say high.

So, you think you been to Home Depot enough times?
LOL They offered me my own parking space. I know how it is, I have done many of the same things you are doing now.

One thing I struggled with and still do is getting the humidity up when they are small. Yea, I bought a humidifier too but found out my lights didnt like it to much.

What works for me is to get a rack for under the containers and get water under there. Your containers can drain properly and you can keep moisture in the grow space while they are small.

Lookin good,
Good luck to ya

doogleef · Dec 7, 2008

68-81F

I just put the humidifier in the tent on low a couple hours ago. In 2 hours the tent is now at 50% RH and 77F :hump:

I plan on turning on the 400W later tonight. :blsmoke:

Current pics:

doogleef · Dec 7, 2008

cruzer101 said:
Hey Doog,

Just stopped by to say high.

So, you think you been to Home Depot enough times?
LOL They offered me my own parking space. I know how it is, I have done many of the same things you are doing now.

One thing I struggled with and still do is getting the humidity up when they are small. Yea, I bought a humidifier too but found out my lights didnt like it to much.

What works for me is to get a rack for under the containers and get water under there. Your containers can drain properly and you can keep moisture in the grow space while they are small.

Lookin good,
Good luck to ya

Hi Cruizer,

Thanks for stopping by! :mrgreen:

I hope the lowest setting on this humidifier is low enough. It is putting out a very fine mist. I am shooting for ~ 60% RH. If it gets too high I will put it in the outer room on the high setting and see if it will work on the bigger airmass.

doogleef · Dec 8, 2008

400W is up and running. :hump:

Been on 3 hours and we are at 82.4F and 47RH. Light is 28-30" from tops. I will drop it a little each day until it is in the 6-12 range depending on heat.

We are officially cooking with 55k lumens in 5 sq ft. :fire:

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