Let me start by saying ok you are right. Growing more than one per pot is the worst thing you can do. All im saying is, i got lucky and its working just fine. Absolutely fine. Now why that makes everyone so mad, i dont know but it does. Im sorry ive offended people. I wont post anything else about it. I guess ill just chuck it up as luck that its working for me and i wont do it again next time. Next time ill have good seeds and ill only do like 15 pots with one in each. These will eventually be one in each, but next time thats how ill start since i wont have 50 seeds to play with. Im just glad its gone so well for me. From hearing you guys talk, it usually turns out to be shit. Beginners luck maybe, dunno.
Yeah, some of the last pics i took were right after we watered and about an hour after the lights came on. Thats why the last few look a little wilted. Ill try to wait longer next time so you can see how they really look. Good job on those HoLE, thats how mine look like at only 23 days also with 3 in a pot. Tell me what you did to that first pic so i can try to avoid that. Is that overwater or over fert? I dotn want mine to look like that, so now i asking you specifically for help. How do i keep mine from looking like your first pic? I would have thought you would have posted some giants to prove your point. Not once that look no different than mine, oh well. I guess there are many different ways

None are better than the last, cause if they were there would be only one type of soil, nutes, lights, pots, and all that. I guess we all have our own secrets and shit. All im asking is that you dont say im doing something wrong when im obviously not. I will agree with you, one per pot might be a little better but 2 or 3 per pot is doing wonderful. Only another week or two and ill get rid of some then they might really take off, cant wait!! Thanks for the advice everyone. Sorry ive been kinda dickish but it just upsets me that people are so quick to point out what they think is wrong just cause they have never tried it or have tried it with bad results. I bet the first guy that said "Hey, i bet i can grow that in nothing but water" i bet he got laughed at too. Oh well, we live and we learn and right now im learning that a few per pot is ok, 1 per pot maybe better. But at this rate, i dont know how much better it can get! Wish me luck everyone!
Oh HoLE, as for the tugging and shit. No, what i said was when you cut it, just kinda squeeze it a little bit or twist it a little. Stems arent made of steel dude. I think you can pinch one without distrubing others. I guess i should have made myself more clear. When you cut the ones below soil level, gently squeeze the one you cut so it doesnt grow back, then cover with soil. If i can find the pots we took them out of ill take a pic. But it will be hard cause they havent grew back and the pots they came from havent slowed in any way, but ill try to find them. Now i did make a mistake by actually taking a spade and digging 2 out. It didnt kill or even hinder the other ones, but it was a stupid thing to do and i would never have done it this far along. Worked for me, hope it works for you if you ever decide to try it

I hope the best for everyone actually, i think its great everyone is growing their own and cutting out the middle man. Fuck the middle man!!! HAHAHA And HoLE, you didnt answer my question. What kinda cfl's are best to use? The 2 i took out of a bucket are growing under cfl's now but i want to them to do as good as the other ones. I know its not possible with just cfl's, but whats the best to use to get it as close as possible? All blue or all red? Or a mix of the 2? Also, did you do 24/0 or what? Those look really good for cfl, i hope my cfl grow turns out as good as yours.
Here are the 2 i removed from the other grow room and put under cfl's. As you can tell, i had some yellow spots but the new growth is coming out fine. I gave them some calmag and epsom salt. The smaller one has been tied down longer. I just took off the paper clips 2 days ago and they've already stood right back up. Oh well. The 2, 3, and last pic show the one i fim'ed and missed a little and cut off one of the leaves

Oh well, at least the part i fim'ed is doing good. And the last pic is just a seed i put in the dirt 4 days ago. Needs a new pot thats for sure. All and all they are doing fine for being taken from their nice home, but they could be doing better under these cfl's. Got any advice?