my outdoor grow in india (12 latitude)

elchupacabra

Well-Known Member
you seem to have some things wrong there. first of all:

1) you will never need manure AND nutes. if you're using manure, it's organic and you won't need nutes, you will need organic sources of nutrition. if you're using nutes, manure is useless.

2) if you got the dirt from near ulsoor lake how do you know whether or not there's poop in it? and if you do know, how do you not know which kind? :-/

3) ratios aren't so important in organic growing, they can be roughly estimated. for ex, cow poop is more n and k than p, bone meal is more P and almost nothing else, but has a solid supply of Ca as well. chicken poop is more N than anything, goat manure is RELATIVELY evenly balanced, etc.

4) if your seedlings are getting attacked by pidgeons, whether they're 2 days old or 4 days old, the seedling will die.
buy a simple chicken wire and just get a rectangular size of length and width of your choice, and force it into a half cylinder shape as shown below:

http://www.plamondon.com/poulthous_files/poulthouse_hoophousediagram.gif

this is just to give you an idea of the shape the chicken wire needs to have. using it as a roof, place all the plants under it. if you can't physically force it open, you can always use something like bricks lined up either side on the inside to keep it in the inverted half-pipe shape. cover the ends with plastic or physically obstruct them with something and you have outdoor pigeon defense.


below is chicken wire, you will find it in any hardware store. shivajinagar, kaggadasapura, fraser town, commercial street (backside), pretty much ANYWHERE that has a standard hardware store.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-C1TlDf0bSq0/UUYLjnYRXaI/AAAAAAAAkRI/MkQaa_pIyFI/s1600/109.JPG

5) to grow indian seeds, your pot size decides your final plant size.
bigger container = bigger plant, slightly slower start, but once it gets about a month old you will see a change in growth between morning and night, bigger yields also. absolute must for plants started outdoors between march and july. 60 litres+
smaller container = smaller more manageable plant, faster start, smaller yields, could run into problems if you don't have a rich enough soil mix. it basically depends on your space and freedom. i'd give an indian plant a good root space of about 100 litres to get max yield from here. if i wanted to keep her smaller, i'd start out in plastic cups (transparent) and when i see roots growing vigorously up the sides everywhere, transplant to 3 litres, then when the roots are noticeably coming out the bottom, transplant to 10-20 litres (final transplant). an indian plant grown this way would have to be planted around september.

bottom line, if you want small indian plants (4-7 feet without training) start around mid-end september. if you want big ones (10+feet guaranteed without training, 350 cm is not uncommon) start july or earlier. august is a gray region for me, for some reason, something always came up in august and i never got an opportunity to monitor seeds planted then carefully.

you can calculate your pot size in litres…assume it's a cylinder and calculate the volume in cm3. 1cm3 = 1ml
 

ternelhat

Member
you will never need manure AND nutes. if you're using manure, it's organic and you won't need nutes, you will need organic sources of nutrition. if you're using nutes, manure is useless.
So I can't start off with the medium I am using, and then add nutes later? If I understand you correctly, if I start off with manure in the medium, I will have to stick with manure when I feed the plant later? (and not start feeding the plant nutes later).
Excuse my ignorance please.

if you got the dirt from near ulsoor lake how do you know whether or not there's poop in it? and if you do know, how do you not know which kind? :-/
I know the guy, and I trust him a little. It is cow poop. However, I didn't bother asking him if it was dry or not.

ratios aren't so important in organic growing, they can be roughly estimated. for ex, cow poop is more n and k than p, bone meal is more P and almost nothing else, but has a solid supply of Ca as well. chicken poop is more N than anything, goat manure is RELATIVELY evenly balanced, etc.
BTW, does biofarm count as manure? (If I use it later to feed the plant)

Thanks on the chicken wire and pot-size suggestions. I know where to get that chicken wire :D Pots are truncated cones, so easy to calculate volume.

Thanks again :D
 

elchupacabra

Well-Known Member
first of all, manure is herbivorous excreta that has not yet been decomposed/composted and is too hot (fresh) for the plant to use. it needs to be broken down first. biofarm is a composted soil additive, with manure, wood ash, and a bunch of other stuff, it is ready to be used with the soil.

you certainly can start off with the manure and add nutes later, not a problem - it just doesn't make sense. because once you start using nutrients, the cow manure is just occupying space in your pot, space that could be much better used by a combination of perlite/vermiculite/coco peat. Also, the way roots absorb nutrients in an organic mix vs with chemicals is completely different…while your grow will work if you go from organic to inorganic, it would work better if you just stick to one.
 

braddaheee

Active Member
Whats up bro? hows the plants coming along?? Just had to spend a good amount on a new pc, so that pushed back the seeds for a bit. Ima order next few days, but I think I'm going with the 33. I like the Leda Uno's description/qualities and reviews, but also hear it doesn't fair so well in humid climates(unlike the 33). Ima try mail the guys, then go from there...
 

heisenbuds

Member
Yo braddaheee! lemme know hows the seeds scene going for you. I'm planning to buy some myself but looking for strains which are suitable for the climate of Mumbai. Cuz it seems a bit harsh when you spend so much on seeds and they just die out sometimes mid growth. Or not grow at all.
 

Organic Toker

Active Member
Hello from a fellow grower :)

Hope you guys are right on track. No recent updates? Am waiting to see Elchupacabras posts.

Elchupacabra, you have described India and the weed scene here neatly. But lately, it's getting worse. Cops and politicians are after stoners. Maybe just because we "think" and are not falling for their rusted ways of politics and blindfolded tactics to fool common man.

Hope we will legalize weed, any day better than alcohol.

Happy Growing :)

Peace!
 

heisenbuds

Member
Buddy, I really feel strongly about legalising it in India. But given the demographic and politics in the country it is the most uphill task. I want to take this initiative up and get cannabis off the chart from the narcotics dept. But research and preparation for this is of such a magnitude that making a formal appeal will take 2-3 years at least. I've started researching on my own let's see how that works out.
 

elchupacabra

Well-Known Member
on a very selfish note, i, for one, do not want cannabis to be legalized in india. reasons, i have a few

1) it's as close to legal as possible while being illegal. you can buy anywhere smoke just about anywhere and grow in an entire 7 bedroom bungalow and nobody will ask any questions or give a shit
2) anybody who wants high quality herb just has to buy a few seeds and stick them in the dirt. if people catch on to this, weed will have little monetary value. that is sheer hopefulness though
3) the quality of the legal herb will be shit. just like anything else that's mass produced in this country. quality control will be marginal, and if you don't have QC for pot, where's the recreational value? sounds like then we're back to square one - occasional bursts of good herb with fairly okay stash most of the time. the only diff is it'd be legal. big whoop

my selfish .02
 

heisenbuds

Member
I totally agree with everything you just said...the mass production shit didn't hit me. But you need to also consider that getting it 'legal' will take atleast 8-10 years taking into account the social stereotype of 'ganja' and political scenario of this nation.. well, I guess you figured what i'm trying to say
 

Saptaloka7

New Member
Hey, I have just stumbled upon your thread about growing weed in India and it is giving me a lot of ideas about next year's grow. Right now I am living in New Delhi and I have four female plants on my rooftop (originally I had more than 30 seedlings, but shit happened). It is my first time growing cannabis anywhere and I am very stoked to get my yield. As a beginner, of course I have faced a lot of problems like soil ph being sort of not suitable for potted herb plants, having close to no idea about the nutes, resulting in lot of my plants getting one or combined nute deficiency ( which is why most of them died off). Also the sun was too harsh for the young ones.

Well let me tell you how I got the seeds first. in february I was at a nature bazaar where I was getting some ayurvedic medicines that was manufactured in Himanchal Pradesh. There I beheld a pack full of ganja seeds (approximately 500+). The vender told me that they are used to make chutney and other stuff. So I bought it, for 30 rupees! I felt so lucky since that was also the only one pack available then.

So I guess that, that particular sativa strain cannot really bear the intense summer heat since they grew in high altitude mountainous region where temperature does not get intensely high and still gets ample amount of sunlight.

I was really hoping that all of my yields were to be sinsemilla, but then I noticed there were so many wild cannabis plants thriving in my neighborhood and moreover, there a LOT of males than the females. so obviously the wild females were all pollinated. I have tried those seedy-as-hell bush weed and they actually got me high as hell.

Right now it seems like the wild males have all gone dry since my ladies's buds are not very seedy. In fact, there one that is the tallest and still hasn't even started to bloom so that might become a sinsemilla giver. I have harvested few buds and will proceed to dry and cure them to see what I have got.

I have also obtained a lot of seeds; some I believe are purebred from the parent generation (since I had few male plants that impregnated still undead females then), and hybrid of wild land race. The wild weeds, are able to tolerate the heat so I think the kids are gonna thrive next year.

I looking forward to see your updates and learn more! Thank you for sharing your experience and I hope you reap the dank :D
 

sweetboi

Member
hi
i was curious from which city exactly did you get seeds from cause i am planning to go to HP. Are u a member in Highiscool.net .Its an indian cannabis community.

I too am from delhi and have a few friends who grow at home.
I also want to try HP seeds . I have seeds from Uttrakhand. (Nepalese Hash Plant)

Regards





Hey, I have just stumbled upon your thread about growing weed in India and it is giving me a lot of ideas about next year's grow. Right now I am living in New Delhi and I have four female plants on my rooftop (originally I had more than 30 seedlings, but shit happened). It is my first time growing cannabis anywhere and I am very stoked to get my yield. As a beginner, of course I have faced a lot of problems like soil ph being sort of not suitable for potted herb plants, having close to no idea about the nutes, resulting in lot of my plants getting one or combined nute deficiency ( which is why most of them died off). Also the sun was too harsh for the young ones.

Well let me tell you how I got the seeds first. in february I was at a nature bazaar where I was getting some ayurvedic medicines that was manufactured in Himanchal Pradesh. There I beheld a pack full of ganja seeds (approximately 500+). The vender told me that they are used to make chutney and other stuff. So I bought it, for 30 rupees! I felt so lucky since that was also the only one pack available then.

So I guess that, that particular sativa strain cannot really bear the intense summer heat since they grew in high altitude mountainous region where temperature does not get intensely high and still gets ample amount of sunlight.

I was really hoping that all of my yields were to be sinsemilla, but then I noticed there were so many wild cannabis plants thriving in my neighborhood and moreover, there a LOT of males than the females. so obviously the wild females were all pollinated. I have tried those seedy-as-hell bush weed and they actually got me high as hell.

Right now it seems like the wild males have all gone dry since my ladies's buds are not very seedy. In fact, there one that is the tallest and still hasn't even started to bloom so that might become a sinsemilla giver. I have harvested few buds and will proceed to dry and cure them to see what I have got.

I have also obtained a lot of seeds; some I believe are purebred from the parent generation (since I had few male plants that impregnated still undead females then), and hybrid of wild land race. The wild weeds, are able to tolerate the heat so I think the kids are gonna thrive next year.

I looking forward to see your updates and learn more! Thank you for sharing your experience and I hope you reap the dank :D
 

IndiasHope

Member
regarding indian genetics, here are some pics of what i feel was one of the best indian plants i grew. a very fuel/mango smell, really nice buds that got me unbelievably high. she was on the lower yielding side of the gene pool but man did the quality make up for it. on par if not better than the neville's haze grown by a friend in cali, albeit totally different taste and much more sativa in nature.

the spiked weed gets you high, and it always will. for one, the shit in it (whether it's chemically altered or simply developed mould/fungus due to being compressed) will cause a shortage of oxygen to your brain if no other psychoactive effects. Secondly that mild buzz is due to THC, yes, but more due to the less psychoactive cannabinoids present in younger incompletely flowered plants which makes you feel more lazy and tired than anything imho. but yes, the genetics at the bottom of it, there are a few goodies to be found.
When did you plant these outdoors in India to get them to flower?
 
hey guys ... i read many of the posts above and let me tell you people ; i m indian and grow weed from 2 years. Got to say that you would mainly find sativa breed here in india ; mostly having a vegetation period of 4 to 5 months and flowering goes for next 2 to 3 months. No doubt that the sativas grown here are 10 feeter :weed:... actually got one of my own at 12 feet high which recently started buding after 5 months. The yeild you would get from an indian sativa would be ranging from 1300 grams to 2 kgs per plant.


was recently frustrated with this long timings of indian sativa and ordered myself one of those ladyburn 1974 from greenhouseseeds.nl.... would be posting the results soon ; the seed just sprouted :cool::peace:
and yeah wanted to add up : i stay in gujarat state and one can find one of the finest qualities of weed here. Pedlars say that the export it from MP but dont know what they got up their sleeves:bigjoint:

here are the pics of the holy tree:fire:
 

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aaghori

New Member
Hey guys,

Im looking to start my first grow in India(goa)..Im looking to grow outdoors .here humidity and temp is high.can I go for autos?
 
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