Need help with light setup.

stumpjumper said:

5 gallons of soil??? Not hardly unless you are growing a 12' tall plant under a 1000w sodium/halide mix.. lmao...

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Actually shithead, ya, 5 gallons of soil. For a healthy 3-4 ft regular plant, or for autos, since they have large root structures for a short stocky plant. If you want a decent yield & no nutrient lock up or deficiency you don't want your plant root bound in a little ass pot. Please by all means post some pics of what your grow & yield looks like with a smaller pot. I have one 3 gallon pot out of 15, the rest are in 5 gallon buckets. I'm sorry but the plant in the 3 gallon is smaller than all but 2 plants in my entire room, & those were stressed out from hot compost & didn't grow right. A 12 ft tall plant in a 5 gallon bucket would have to be watered twice daily in most summer climates. If you can find a 12 ft. tall plant indoors please show me.

Some people really have no clue & should keep their opinions to themselves.

My apologies to the owner of this thread. Carry on sir.

LAXitives288 said:

An extra 42w for my original plan or for the 2x23w and 1x42w that I found? I was planning on getting at least a few more 23w's in addition to what I found, I was just stoked to find some cfl's and bagseed within a week of each other "for free"

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Get as much as you can without being silly about it man, people put 300-400 watts on one plant with cfl's & they are getting 3 + oz's.

Time to get borderline silly then.

rombomb420 said:

Some people really have no clue & should keep their opinions to themselves.

My apologies to the owner of this thread. Carry on sir.

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You dont have anything to apologize for, what's his face was being a prick.

I wasn't being a prick, but since you got me going...

Whatever dude.. I'll post pics when it's over. You don't need 5 gallons of soil for a healthy plant.

I've been in the presence of 12" tall indoor plants that bent at the ceiling. Wasn't my grow but I was there. I'm not knocking cfl's at all but if you've never used a 1000w MH and 1000w HPS... you aint seen nuthin yet.

Good luck fitting more than 1 plant in your 2'x2'x3' grow box with your big bad 5 gallon pots lol. (That's all I'm saying, shithead).

Holy fuck your reading comprehension skills are way low. I already completely understand that 5 gallons is too much soil. I questioned it when he said it initially and I researched it and arrived at the same conclusion you did, the difference is, I wasn't an asshole about it.

LAXitives288 said:

Holy fuck your reading comprehension skills are way low. I already completely understand that 5 gallons is too much soil. I questioned it when he said it initially and I researched it and arrived at the same conclusion you did, the difference is, I wasn't an asshole about it.

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Man I promise you it's not too much. You'd be surprised. Like I said, if you can push the dimensions to 3'x2'x3' you'd be fine with 2 5 gallon buckets. You could fit one in a 2x2x3 no problem. Trying to encourage you to get the most out of the space you are working with as possible on a first grow.

stumpjumper said:

I wasn't being a prick, but since you got me going...

Whatever dude.. I'll post pics when it's over. You don't need 5 gallons of soil for a healthy plant.

I've been in the presence of 12" tall indoor plants that bent at the ceiling. Wasn't my grow but I was there. I'm not knocking cfl's at all but if you've never used a 1000w MH and 1000w HPS... you aint seen nuthin yet.

Good luck fitting more than 1 plant in your 2'x2'x3' grow box with your big bad 5 gallon pots lol. (That's all I'm saying, shithead).

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I smell troll.

5 gallons of soil may not be "too much" but its way more than is necessary. As long as theres enough space for a healthy root system and you provide your plant with the nutrients it needs, there isn't even a reason to have soil, hence the fact hydroponics is not only possible but works exceptionally well. The point being, I'm only going to use as much soil as I have to so I can save space instead of having to increase the dimensions of my Cab for no reason and no benefit. The cab is going to be in my room, so watering daily due to using a small amount of soil is a non issue for me.


I know you're only trying to help, but I think you need to read up some more before you start giving out information like its gospel.

Sorry I'm really not trolling, or trying to be a prick..seriously..

Dude's cab is 2x2x3... I was just saying you dont need 5 gallon buckets for a healthy plant unless it's a huge motherfucker... I'm not the asshole who started being a prick, thanks.

lads, lads, your all arseholes and pricks

No, you're all arseholes.

LAXitives288 said:

No, you're all arseholes.

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i sense strong pwn skills with this one

You should the nubs I have wrecked on the other forums I frequent.

After doing some more looking around my house, I found 2 more cfl's that arent being used but I havent inspected them yet because theyre in a high traffic area in the ceiling in some recessed buckets that dont work, i'm planning on swapping them with some busted incandescent bulbs tonight so I dont have to make up a story on why im playing electrician.

I also found 3 mini computer case fans and an old transformer from when I was 12 and into toy trains, a transformer is basically a rheostat that changes a/c 110v to DC, so its basically the perfect variable fan speed controller for pc fans and I have like 3 laying around so that was a solid score.

So right now its looking like this


Things I have
- 5 bagseeds
- 2x23w 2700k cfls
- 1x42x 2700k cfl
- 2x??w ????k cfls
- 3 mini pc case fans
- variable fan speed controller
- A couple cabinets to choose from, one being 2 feet wide, 2 feet tall and 1 foot deep, another being 3x3x3 but I'll probably need that to hang clothes
- maybe a timer if I can work a deal with my little brother while i'm home
- a bunch of variably sized pots to choose from
- some coat hangers for lst

Things I need(want)
- Unsulphered Molasses
- dynagro foliage pro (9-3-6)
- jacks classic - all purpose (20-20-20) and blossom booster (10-30-20)
- maybe some super thrive
- thermometer/humidity gauge
- something to test ph, havent decided what method im going with yet
- some mylar
- potting mix
- some 6500k lights for vegging?




Am I forgetting anything?



I'm thinking i'm gonna go 12/12 from seed but I kind of want to veg for a few weeks, if i'm only gonna veg for 3 weeks, how crucial is it to have some light in the 6500k spectrum?

Nevermind, just looked at the 2 cfls I thought were good, theyre toast. Are the prices for cfl's at home depot or lowes pretty reasonable?



Edit- just wired up the 2 mini pc case fans and they move a lot of air, I feel like it'll be sufficient for the smaller cab, which is the one i'm leaning towards using because I dont really use it for anything.