NEW Closet Set Up for L.E.D. Stealth Grow
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Serapis
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Well said Breakneck....but why does EVERY LED thread end up like this? Haters can't leave em alone.
Seedlings:
The seedlings are about 14 days old and have been under Flouros for 20/4. They have graduated and are now in their 8" pots. The seedlings had roots that had reached bottom of 9 oz Solo and were wrapping around looking for room to grow. They have only been fed twice by water and twice by foliar.
Each 8" pot has about 1" on bottom of hydroton to keep soil from draining out of holes in bottom. After plant was transplanted, it was watered in with 750ml of water mixed with a 1/4 cap of SuperThrive rooting hormone.
Here are pics of the new family now under LEDs.
Seedlings:
The seedlings are about 14 days old and have been under Flouros for 20/4. They have graduated and are now in their 8" pots. The seedlings had roots that had reached bottom of 9 oz Solo and were wrapping around looking for room to grow. They have only been fed twice by water and twice by foliar.
Each 8" pot has about 1" on bottom of hydroton to keep soil from draining out of holes in bottom. After plant was transplanted, it was watered in with 750ml of water mixed with a 1/4 cap of SuperThrive rooting hormone.
Here are pics of the new family now under LEDs.
luckyskindaguy
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I am not going to go through all of your 1700+ and counting responses to find all that support my claim. All I feel I need to supply is this thread: https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/367788-newer-led-technology-facts-not-14.html
This is the root of the current arguement in this thread I believe. In post #17 the OP makes a claim that he would expect a 90w LED to get a half a pound based on the 90% inefficency of a 400w. He assumes, not proves, that IF a 400w HID can grow a half pound then a 90w LED could too based on it being more efficient.
You came into this post on page 13 and "Enter defender"! You didn't even read the whole thread, at least closely enough, because you post YOURSELF that you missed one of the key arguements in post #135. This of course was AFTER you made the claim that the OP made no such claim. (see post #17 again if you missed it)
The bottom line is this: Google does not an expert make! You have never done your own grow Searpis. You have read of what others have done and are making claims, in some cases, as if they were your findings first hand. You get very defensive when anyone challanges you. You come off as a very immature know-it-all. You are trying to catch flies with vinegar. Take up your quest of defending LED's if you wish, but do so at what could be your own peril.
I don't have to unsub your thread because I care about the information you MIGHT prove that could be helpful to my own growing experience.
You can make post without using "colorful" language. That just makes you look more defensive and weak in your arguement and some people are going to try and exploit that. Prove them wrong with your grow results. As I told you before, you have to be patient. That goes with overtaking a dominant technology as well. There were many that resisted HPS over CFL.
I am on the side of knowledge. I, however, am not emotional about it. I have had my share of LED bashers in my grow threads and just asked them to positively contribute to eveyone's knowledge of move on. They didn't get the reaction they wanted so they left. Just keep on task and you will gain respect, trust me.
luckyskindaguy
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Another thing I might point out is that you reference premium LED units in your comparisons. Not all LED's are created equal. Hydro Grow LED PENETRATOR (not Infiltrator as you have posted) is one that I have been watching myself. They use the 60 deg lens LED's which, as far as I have seen, is the only company that does that in their whole line of fixtures. Hyproponics Hut has a 90w that has 60's in it, but their larger units go up to 90 deg as well as a mix of 1w and 3w diodes.
This does not mean all LED's will produce the same yields, it just means that few HAVE beaten HPS watt for watt or in a per watt comparison.
All of this falls to marketing. You yourself felt a little duped after buying your lights because you felt it was misleading. This of course was after you had " lurked and studied for nearly 2 years and finally made the move" into growing yourself.
On the flipside, there are different quality levels of HPS bulbs to choose from as well.
This does not mean all LED's will produce the same yields, it just means that few HAVE beaten HPS watt for watt or in a per watt comparison.
All of this falls to marketing. You yourself felt a little duped after buying your lights because you felt it was misleading. This of course was after you had " lurked and studied for nearly 2 years and finally made the move" into growing yourself.
On the flipside, there are different quality levels of HPS bulbs to choose from as well.
wyteberrywidow
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I call you childish because after the situation was done you come in and quote me.How many grows of hid has been 1 gram per watt?How many are over 1 gram per watt?Alot. Hobbes is doing a grow where he gets 2.5 grams a watt.He done it already not trying to do it.
Because i ask for proof im bashing a led thread.
The whole fact that started this was you came into someone else thread and started talking shit you did not come with proof at all then you quote me so thats the start of a debate if you dont want one why jump in someone elses business.
GreenNerd420
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Is it true that LED grows similar to CFLs?
Pure
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Dude Three words!
Run For Cover!!!
LOL
Just Kidding, I'm sure someone from this thread will be HAPPY to "Help" you!! But from what I'm reading LED's beat CFl's hands down and I am only basing that on the fact that noone compares LED's to CFL's only to HiD's so based on that i'd assume there was really no comparison or there would be CFLr's attacking Serapis, and he'd/we'd be swinging back at another group of growers...
I'm gonna search the forum now just to be sure I'm not talking out of me arse!
Ciao,
Pure...
Magnificient
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I never could understand people dropping in to make neg remarks. I just go on to the next string.
GreenNerd420
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I think my CFL grow is going to produce a higher yield than this grow, and I'm barely more wattage than this. But, I do have a lot of heat to remove. Do you have any suggestions?
Serapis
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Please don't feed the troll.....Dude Three words!
Run For Cover!!!
LOL
Just Kidding, I'm sure someone from this thread will be HAPPY to "Help" you!! But from what I'm reading LED's beat CFl's hands down and I am only basing that on the fact that noone compares LED's to CFL's only to HiD's so based on that i'd assume there was really no comparison or there would be CFLr's attacking Serapis, and he'd/we'd be swinging back at another group of growers...
I'm gonna search the forum now just to be sure I'm not talking out of me arse!
Ciao,
Pure...
Pure
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Hmm,
I didn't know dude had "History"! Maybe if we feed him after midnight he'll turn into a LED grower..
Doesn't matter I'm invested in my LED push and come Hell or high water I'm gonna finish this one on PURE LED power. For 1 Sq Meter i think I have the perfect test setup for a 90Watter, lets see what weight i pull out of this Haze grow...
Ciao,
Pure...
I didn't know dude had "History"! Maybe if we feed him after midnight he'll turn into a LED grower..
Doesn't matter I'm invested in my LED push and come Hell or high water I'm gonna finish this one on PURE LED power. For 1 Sq Meter i think I have the perfect test setup for a 90Watter, lets see what weight i pull out of this Haze grow...Ciao,
Pure...
potpimp
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LMAO!!! I saw this one coming. I swear, as soon as I read the "have any suggestions?" I knew basically what you were going to say. OMG, that's funny. Did I mention that I grew a plant that yielded 50 lbs using nothing but a small photo of the sun?
GreenNerd420
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So... who's the troll? I was asking you a legitimate question. And if you looked at my grow journal, you would see videos... not photos. So, please have a look, and then flame me? I'm a novice. I know nothing about growing and I'm still trying to learn. I hope you can keep your tissues stocked, because you're obviously going to need plenty with all the fucking crying you do. Grow a sack and quit whining like a fucking kid.
tranquility
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haha ...no you didn't mention that probably because you just made it up. if thats a typo and it 5 pounds, then i can belive it lol.Did I mention that I grew a plant that yielded 50 lbs using nothing but a small photo of the sun?
Serapis
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Your claiming your CFL lamps are going to outproduce my grow and then ask about heat from your bulbs.... It is quite plain to see that you are being an ass. Look at your last several posts in this thread, all attempts at being an ass and offering absolutely nothing to the thread. Feel free to move on and do your own thing in your own thread.
TheJointProject
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Hey screw that asshole! Got any new pics serapis?
Serapis
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Hey there TJP, I'll have some new pics this weekend. Plants 1-5 are looking good, a few are dropping their bottom shade leaves but I'm not concerned, it's nature. The tops are looking lovely and are close to wanting to flower. The seedlings are already working on nodes 5-6. They are growing very fast and are near the time for their topping. As soon as the tops are long enough to clone, I'll be topping them.
New Pictures on Sunday at latest.
GreenNerd420
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You're awesome. I love this thread.
420n00b
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Love the updates, glad to see they're doing well. I'm looking forward to not only the results under LED but also the quality of Nirvana's seeds as theres been some questions of the quality of their genetics on this site lately. I also purchased some bubblicious from them.
Looking forward to those new pics Serapis.
Looking forward to those new pics Serapis.
potpimp
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You don't have anything to worry about; Nirvana has good genetics, regardless of what anyone says. I have bought several strains from them and all of them have been excellent. I just smoked my first bowl last night of some Hindu Kush from Nirvana that I grew; it was very good.
Looking forward to the new pix!
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