NEW Closet Set Up for L.E.D. Stealth Grow

updates:

The plants numbered 1-5 are now in day two of 12/12. The tops are really starting to stretch and I thought if I wait too much longer.... Plants 1,2 have dropped several lower leaves. The rest of the plant looks great on them. I'm thinking it is a natural response to lighting as the tops spread apart and take up the light. (these were topped and have 4 main stems each).

I fed them twice in a row, thinking they needed N but now I have a few small tips curling, so it is fine for food. I'm assuming it;s natural as the rest of plant looks gorgeous. I only have to keep these alive for 2 more months! Yay... lol

Seedlings:

It's getting hard to call them seedlings anymore. They are about 18 days old now and are really filling in nice sideways. So you have an idea of scale, those pots are 6.25" square and 8.25" deep. The plants are loving the soil. I placed a small scoop of worm castings under each transfer and it is really showing. The SuperThrive got through transplanting with flying colors. The plants NEVER showed ANY sign of shock. I swear by ST for germinating and transplanting seedlings. Just look at the pics! Great Nirvana genetics! Only one runt, the rest are all about equal in progress. These will be slow vegged under Flouros and possibly topped twice. First topping is coming up soon.

Everything's looking good!

Yeah, those are looking pretty damn sweet.

The ones in flower look nice and bushy!

Hell yea, Serapis! How high are you thinking about putting the scrog?

LED look good.

I think soon alot more people will try them out.

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YES!!! Now we really get to see what they can do! Lookin great man!

Topped Seedlings:

They are about 21 days old and looking real healthy. They have been under 6500k cool White Plus T8's plus I used worm castings in the soil. When I lifted one of the 8.25" deep pots out of the tray of hydroton so I could top it, I noticed about 4 strands of roots that had made their way out the drain holes and it was attaching itself to the hydroton. I clipped the roots and they were about 3-4" in length. I was surprised to see that so soon.These plants may be ready to start flowering in 2 weeks.

I cloned the tops. Yeah, we are going to try that again. This time I have it on calendar, I know what to look for, and I'll only pop the top to the dome twice a day for fresh air and to replace moisture or to spray the leaves. I'm hoping for a 100% rate. I cut above the 3rd node because cutting above the 2nd seemed like I was taking too much off. I will more than likely LST the new side shoots. If I get 100% rooting of clones, I'll get them going on veg and move plants 6-10 into flower. That'll have me at two harvests about 4-5 weeks apart. If clones regen quick enough, I can keep up a perpetual harvest, which is my goal. I always want plants in flower, and to have two groups, about 4 weeks apart.

Plants 1-5:

The original plants are now 6 days on 12/12. 3 of the plants are showing what appear to be the beginings of pistils which is sooner than I expected. I figured 10 days minimum to see sex. I have my camera on macro and will get some pistil shots this weekend for documentation purposes.

check out the spread on these 3 week old plants!

They were started in 9oz solo cups as seeds in an organic seed starter mix. about 13 days after sprouting, they were transfered to these square 6.25" x 6.25" x 8.25" pots. The growth rate has been phenomenal! They are now in MG organic choice soil with worm castings mixed in at root ball level. I use Superthrive on these ladies at most waterings early on, as it is all they get for the first two weeks. I then gingerly introduced them to Peters Plant Food 10-15-10 about 10 days ago, when two of them had yellowing starter leaves while they were in the seed starter.

These plants were foliar feed almost daily after their 8th day. To those that say this inhibits root growth, please explain my roots. They are growing out the bottoms in less than 10 days after transplant. They also NEVER showed any stress from being potted up. (Thanks SuperThrive). It has allowed the growth to go at about 1/4" a day. The plants were about 6-7" before being topped. The tallest now is about 4.5" I have to LST the new side shoots. I didn't last time and some of the tips got stagnated and are hiding behind fan leaves. Most of the plants have 4 distinct tops, a couple are growing more than that.

Serapis, I know you don't believe me, but I like this. However, it seems like you're going to have an exceptionally low yield for such a high investment. I suppose it's really more of a preference.

GreenNerd420 said:

Serapis, I know you don't believe me, but I like this. However, it seems like you're going to have an exceptionally low yield for such a high investment. I suppose it's really more of a preference.

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This coming from a guy that is growing with light bulbs in a bathroom vanity strip? If you are so sure there is nothing to see here, why aren't you moving along and investing your time more wisely? Rather than being a troll, why not use your great knowledge to help others? There are plenty of people here begging for your feedback in other threads. Go pat em on the back....

futhermore, if you had any sense, you would realize that I'm set up to have a perpetual harvest. My investment will keep yielding, not just one time.

Feel free to take your LED bashing self to your FL threads.... lol, you have some nerve to talk of yield.

I say we hold off the yield comments until they ACTually start flowering, geez. Keep it up Serapis! Hope you have some good mothers to choose from!

hey serapis this is the nicest all led grow i have ever seen

You are planning on getting the same plant to flower more than once? Surely, that's not what your interpretation of a perpetual grow is.

wow, they are only 3wks old.. I thought it had been longer than that musta been all the troll fighting that made it seem so long.
the plants are looking very nice! How long before you flip them? sorry if you already answered that.

They're very small for 3 weeks. WTF are you talking about?

GreenNerd420 said:

You are planning on getting the same plant to flower more than once? Surely, that's not what your interpretation of a perpetual grow is.

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You are just unreal. This has to be an act. Is really anyone really as clueless as you are?

GreenNerd420 said:

They're very small for 3 weeks. WTF are you talking about?

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Please post your plants 3 weeks from seed...... not clones, seed.

Mines are 3 weeks from seed, and I will start flowering soon.

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IMO Asking yield questions when the man is only 3 weeks in is kind of stupid... Too many variables come into play to give a somewhat valid yield so soon. I think his plants look great for 3 weeks, but what do I know.

GreenNerd420 said:

You cut three nodes down to top them? Why? And yes, I am referring to seed. My plants are far larger than that at 3 weeks. And I have spent a fraction of what you have. I'm sure your room is "prettier" than mine, and that's all good. I like your setup, but I just don't get the reasoning behind it. Dude, look- I understand you hate me. I get that, I really do. You hate anyone who questions LED grows. You seem like you're a pretty smart guy, and you've obviously managed to invest far more money in your grow than I have, and kudos for that. I will step back and quit questioning your grow. I'm honestly just wondering how much you're going to yield out of this. Dude, I don't know what I have to do to convince you that I love you. I just hope you understand that I only continue to post here because you obviously are a very passionate person. I like passion. It drives us to write dramatic shit, and people lick our tears. I think you could be a cool person, but ultimately, I'm relatively certain that your'e an uptight and highly arrogant prick.

I'm a troll.

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I think one of the problems is you post before you really think about what you are typing. Your responses seem unintelligible because of that. To show your love, just sit back and watch the grow.

If you had read the grow, you would know why he cut the tops off. It is his preferred method to clone.

Peace all!