New LP applicant putting his neck out there..

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OrganiBryce

New Member
Hello all,

I've been reading a lot of your posts and concerns around the new regulations regarding Medical Marijuana. At the risk of getting criticized, I'd really love to get a discussion going on this subject. As a small producer, I am really trying to focus on the needs of the patients who benefit from marijuana. In fact, one of our founding members is a current patient, and approached the idea of setting up shop as a means to provide to others in a way that he thinks would work for him.

I'm reaching out to ask for help in building a LP that might answer to many patients needs, and honestly answer as many questions as I can.

Let me know if anyone is interested.

If I'm out of line by posting here, I sincerly appologize, and will not attempt to connect through here anymore.

kind regards,

Bryce.
 
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gb123

Well-Known Member
OrganiBryce said:
concerns around the new regulations regarding Medical Marijuana. QUOTE]
Price. Affordability. Quality above all. None of which you are able to do. :) specially if you are along the same lines that 'green peace of nature? is trying to push.:hump: and you would correct with your assumption about posting in a patient only area. Cheers :)
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Kootenaygirl

Kootenaygirl

Active Member
This is a free forum for all. You are not out of line. We appreciate all points of view.
Why are you shutting people down with your none sense, gb123?
I think gb123 is way outta line, and I hope that you won't let a "chicken little" stop you from posting here or on any other thread.
I am interested in your ideas?
 
eliminare

eliminare

Member
To me, a good producer would be able to have a steady supply, true strain names (with breeder companies name) and of course, good quality medicine. Good prices would be nice too.
 
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OrganiBryce

New Member
I appreciate the welcome Kooteneygirl! I've been wating to post for some time.. There is so much mixed emotions and miss-information around this topic, I figured maybe I could be of some help, at least to those who want to talk.

I'm simply an organic farmer who happens to have a very green thumb ;) and a good team of people who understand business and legislation surrounding me.
 
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OrganiBryce

New Member
Hi eliminare, thanks for your reply!

From what I know so far, strain names are an issue for most producers because they are concered about brand recongnition. If every company produces say 'CBD critical mass' they will have a harder time distigusing there product from others. We've debated this back and forth a lot.. My personal thought is as long as we don't eventually get sued by the creator of a strain we will leave the names as is. The less we need to change what patients are used to, the better. I'd prefer let my growing method be what sets me appart? Quality will definitely be a big devider, in my opinion... but there must be some people out there who know what they're doing. we cant be the only ones growing good weed out there! I guess we'll have to see. So far, from what I can gather, it's not great.

I'm opting for a small set-up, so hopefully we can keep costs down... the averages seem high, and judging by what my business partner is going through, he can't really afford $7.50 a gram. hopefully we'll be able to stay afloat and offer our top shelf products at a resonable price. We were boucing around a sliding scale program for our patients with the lowest income, but I wounder if this would be well recived, or just come off as unfair to our other patients.

We will unfortunately have to limite the patients we take on initially, until we are sure our production can keep up.. better have to much, than run out for those who depend on us!

Is there any particular strains that you'd like to see on a list?
 
j0yr1d3

j0yr1d3

Well-Known Member
Care and compassion should be the foremost focus of any LP that put's patients before profit. High quality medicine at an affordable price, transparency in your business with everything from growing practices to production costs and overhead, large variety of strains, use of traditional strain names, dedicated supply etc etc etc. The minute a company starts talking about "80-90% profit margins" and accessing the "import/export market" or "going public" they have pretty much lost me, these are companies that care about profit, not patients. That being said I understand companies need to operate for profit and nobody works for free but let's keep it within reason. You can start by charging less than the black market.
 
eliminare

eliminare

Member
OrganiBryce said:
Hi eliminare, thanks for your reply!

From what I know so far, strain names are an issue for most producers because they are concered about brand recongnition. If every company produces say 'CBD critical mass' they will have a harder time distigusing there product from others. We've debated this back and forth a lot.. My personal thought is as long as we don't eventually get sued by the creator of a strain we will leave the names as is. The less we need to change what patients are used to, the better. I'd prefer let my growing method be what sets me appart? Quality will definitely be a big devider, in my opinion... but there must be some people out there who know what they're doing. we cant be the only ones growing good weed out there! I guess we'll have to see. So far, from what I can gather, it's not great.

I'm opting for a small set-up, so hopefully we can keep costs down... the averages seem high, and judging by what my business partner is going through, he can't really afford $7.50 a gram. hopefully we'll be able to stay afloat and offer our top shelf products at a resonable price. We were boucing around a sliding scale program for our patients with the lowest income, but I wounder if this would be well recived, or just come off as unfair to our other patients.

We will unfortunately have to limite the patients we take on initially, until we are sure our production can keep up.. better have to much, than run out for those who depend on us!

Is there any particular strains that you'd like to see on a list?
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I understand :cry: lol

I have heard Herojuana, GDP, and Hash Plant are great for treating chronic pain. Any true heavy indica's should be good. Also though some sativa's can help. Oh and maybe also be the first producer to have a high CBD strain available at the start.
 
leaffan

leaffan

Well-Known Member
Are you from Quebec? Is english your second language?
I'm not trying to be a jerk, just having a hard time understanding why your post has so many grammatical errors.
 
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OrganiBryce

New Member
I appreciate your input j0yr1d3. One thing's for sure, I definitely agree with you. I'm trying my best to come up with efficient ways to approach this market. One thing is for sure, quality is at the top of my priority list to get started... I was shocked to hear that many producers are irradiating their weed! I understand that many patients have immunodeficiency issues that we must be aware of as producers as well though... it's going to be hard to navigate every aspect of this new business, while keeping our values at heart.. I think that being transparent is a good approach. If we show our methods, and talk about the process, maybe it will inspire confidence?

To be honest, I'm not too familiar with black market prices. My experience ends at growing... What is your opinion on fair price?

Since we are going to be late to the party.. we will need to import our seeds from over seas, at this point. Otherwise our only other option that I know of is buying from other Canadian producers... awesome optics there. :|
 
leaffan

leaffan

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Not a problem, just wanted to understand. I sure as hell wouldn't want to have to type in french. It's all good.
 
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OrganiBryce

New Member
eliminare said:
I understand :cry: lol

I have heard Herojuana, GDP, and Hash Plant are great for treating chronic pain. Any true heavy indica's should be good. Also though some sativa's can help. Oh and maybe also be the first producer to have a high CBD strain available at the start.
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I've been playing around with a High CDB strain already. One of my patients has said great things about it, so I have high hopes. I'm surprised none of the others have anything like this available yet... Many shy away because of sativa's longer grow times and temperament I guess? I'm not to concerned about that, if the results are good.
 
GreenSanta

GreenSanta

Well-Known Member
OrganiBryce said:
I've been playing around with a High CDB strain already. One of my patients has said great things about it, so I have high hopes. I'm surprised none of the others have anything like this available yet... Many shy away because of sativa's longer grow times and temperament I guess? I'm not to concerned about that, if the results are good.
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OrganiBryce, we should stay in touch through private messages, I am quebecois as well and I live in BC right now doing the closet grow thing, you can look my journal in my signature. I am also working with CBD rich strain and getting feedback from various patients, I have also started thin layer chromatography testing at home. The ball is in your camp if you are interested in sharing your findings through PMs or in my thread, we could probably help each other.

Cheers :eyesmoke:
 
j0yr1d3

j0yr1d3

Well-Known Member
Currently no LP is charging below black market, even the cheapest LP ($6/gram) is still charging black market prices. A "fair" price would be less than black market value, so realistically less than $5 a gram. As a patient I expect higher quality and a cheaper price than what I can get on the street, sadly this doesn't seem to be the case so far with the current LP's.
 
GreenSanta

GreenSanta

Well-Known Member
j0yr1d3 said:
Currently no LP is charging below black market, even the cheapest LP ($6/gram) is still charging black market prices. A "fair" price would be less than black market value, so realistically less than $5 a gram. As a patient I expect higher quality and a cheaper price than what I can get on the street, sadly this doesn't seem to be the case so far with the current LP's.
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5$ a gram is the price here if my buddies want to move their weed, it doesn't matter the quantities, up to a quarter pound is still 5$ a gram or less on the black market... I think great organic weed can be produced for 5$ a gram and I don't think patient would ever have to pay more for well grown weed, as long as they are patients... recreational users should pay more though, think how much recreational users are paying for booze at the liquor store, or worst the pub. Its my opinion on the subject anyway and if LP can't produce organic dank for 5$ a gram or less, there is something wrong. That is with our current economy, it will go up as hydroelectricity goes up but right now any patients should not pay more than 5$ a gram for PREMIUM MEDICINE!, MEDICINE!
 
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OrganiBryce

New Member
j0yr1d3 said:
Currently no LP is charging below black market, even the cheapest LP ($6/gram) is still charging black market prices. A "fair" price would be less than black market value, so realistically less than $5 a gram. As a patient I expect higher quality and a cheaper price than what I can get on the street, sadly this doesn't seem to be the case so far with the current LP's.
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So far I don't see why this price won't be achieved before long. I think LP's are starting to recognize the realities of this market and will have to start lowering their prices substantially to be competitive.
 
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OrganiBryce

New Member
GreenSanta said:
5$ a gram is the price here if my buddies want to move their weed, it doesn't matter the quantities, up to a quarter pound is still 5$ a gram or less on the black market... I think great organic weed can be produced for 5$ a gram and I don't think patient would ever have to pay more for well grown weed, as long as they are patients... recreational users should pay more though, think how much recreational users are paying for booze at the liquor store, or worst the pub. Its my opinion on the subject anyway and if LP can't produce organic dank for 5$ a gram or less, there is something wrong. That is with our current economy, it will go up as hydroelectricity goes up but right now any patients should not pay more than 5$ a gram for PREMIUM MEDICINE!, MEDICINE!
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I agree! I just hope that HC dosent burden us with too much overhead. The cost of security, etc will quickly add up and affect the bottom line of many LP's. I'm hoping my other experiences in organic farming and greenhouse maintenance will help keep costs down a little.
 
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