NFTG. Nectar For The Gods

Is this way ok to mix my bk foliar feed. Im adding it to distilled then using ph down. I dont want it reacting to anything else in my well water so i like to use distilled for foliar feeding anything but after adding just bk to distilled ph is coming out at around 6.6 -6.8 and was wondering if adding ph down after bk has a negative reaction.

Flatrate said:

FWIW, the whole time I used NFTG was with LED and never had a problem.

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Good to know Leds are ok. Thats the direction im heading in. I like using both. I have a ts1000 and a fc e3000 plus a 400w mh/hps. So about 900 watts. Should do nice. These leds come out like crazy. Its like you buy one and then a better version comes out months later and so on and so on. I really just want 1 top of the line led for 1 plant in a 3x3. I like just doing 1 plant. So many options.

I run Timbers.

Flatrate said:

I run Timbers.

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I’m using Vivosun …. Vs4000 and 2xVS 2000in another tent …they use the Samsung 301H lol…. Having great success so far , but it’s winter and temps can be an issue …. Years ago I used California light works when burple was a big think …. I still have one of there 200w …. I do like my 315 cmh … but LEDs likes to keep them short which I like with limited space….. just in case I got 8oz per plant using these LEDs …. That’s dry weight …. I can’t complain …..

Im still trying to figure out training, defoliating, pruning. I struggle with "do i cut the small branches off of the mains to make the mains bigger or do i just keep bending branches outward making more tops?" I mean looking down on them theres like 30 tops. Would it be better to stop around there and then each top lollipop or just keep spreading it out. Where i get confused is when the plants so compact. Its only 9" high and has so many big leaves and branches all bunched up.i wanted to wait right before flower to defoliate but alraedy have twice. Bk and leds and indica all in one make a really compact plant the trunks the size of a bic lighter already.

Your main you would want to ’top’ giving you 2 main tops and keeping the canopy even. You can gently bend the others out and lollipop the bud sites to keep only about 3-4 sites per branch. Defoliate as needed. Cutting out the BK, or at least cutting back quite a bit, will allow it to grow some as well and allow for more bud sites. The last thing you want is branches right on top of each other especially when flowering, don’t want the buds butting right up against each other. As far as trimming bottom branches, that is an option and if the are fairly scrawny and short definitely get rid of them.

bubba73 said:

Your main you would want to ’top’ giving you 2 main tops and keeping the canopy even. You can gently bend the others out and lollipop the bud sites to keep only about 3-4 sites per branch. Defoliate as needed. Cutting out the BK, or at least cutting back quite a bit, will allow it to grow some as well and allow for more bud sites. The last thing you want is branches right on top of each other especially when flowering, don’t want the buds butting right up against each other. As far as trimming bottom branches, that is an option and if the are fairly scrawny and short definitely get rid of them.

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Pretty much what ive been doing. I gotta tie em back down though. Just hard to water around all the ties ya know. Last grow after i took all the ties off i did some super cropping. Also like the shwazze technique. I topped the 5 node then cut off the 1st node and topped the other mains and tied everything down and let it grow for a couple weeks then took the ties off. Im gonna feed tomorrow morning and tie everything back down before. Probably gonna do 1/4 strength bk for now and see how that goes. I wanna keep the plant used to it because i want to use it with my feeds during flowering.

Oh and thanks for keeping up with my rapid questions. I can be pretty inquisitive.

Can this be a cause of tip burn and and the dark weird color green looking leaves? Using ph down instead of hades down because of the phosphoric acid(i am using olympus up though). Also while foliar feeding bloom khaos im using 1 tsp of posiedonzime as a root drench with my feedings. I feel like i should be using one or the other.

Does anyone know what NFTG's nutes play well with the fox farm trio and ocean forest???

7L!fTeD24 said:

Can this be a cause of tip burn and and the dark weird color green looking leaves? Using ph down instead of hades down because of the phosphoric acid(i am using olympus up though). Also while foliar feeding bloom khaos im using 1 tsp of posiedonzime as a root drench with my feedings. I feel like i should be using one or the other.

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7L!fTeD24 said:

Does anyone know what NFTG's nutes play well with the fox farm trio and ocean forest???

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No on the nutes ! …… ocean forest , slurry it , cause the ph has to be inline with nectar , either have to flush it or being used now I would wait till the ph goes up in the 6s and the ppm comes down ….most soils out of the bag has enough food to get thru veg …. Not #4 unless its 4 shot soil.

Ok on my nftg plant I did a slurry test last night and the ph was 6.5 and 560 ppm. This morning i fed week 3-4 transition feed. There's no more tip burn on new growth.Been using Bloom khaos at 1/4 strength every morning. Things look good. I have been doing more Lst to get my space filled up in this last week before i flip the lights. And ok im not gonna use any nftg nutes on the ff plant besides foliar feeding posiedonzime. I really do think that the dark green leaves and tip burn was because i was adding posiedonzime to my watering feeding schedule instead of foliar feeding because i was foliar feeding bloom khaos. Potassium excess.you think? And when i root drench in flower is it ok to use both? Did more lst yesterday. This plants so short and squat. I. Thinking of doing a defoliation before i flip and strip off all the big fan leaves And lollipop. Any advice on how i can get the biggest yeild from this plant? Ive been spreading it out every couple days bubba and more tops keep comin.the one outside the tent is nftg

Its also only 9 inches tall. Could this be a bad thing?

Its "flush" day my slurry was 450 ppm and 6.6 ph. Been foliar feeding bk at 1/4 strength everything looks good. How would i flush with being on the high side of ppms. I was gonna add extra herc im going into week 4 of veg. Also i just got bigfoot concentrate, when is the soonest i can use it? With my flush in the morning? Next feed? Or wait until tea day. I have to water in the morning any help would be much appreciated. Thanks

7L!fTeD24 said:

Its "flush" day my slurry was 450 ppm and 6.6 ph. Been foliar feeding bk at 1/4 strength everything looks good. How would i flush with being on the high side of ppms. I was gonna add extra herc im going into week 4 of veg. Also i just got bigfoot concentrate, when is the soonest i can use it? With my flush in the morning? Next feed? Or wait until tea day. I have to water in the morning any help would be much appreciated. Thanks

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Just do the normal “flush” no need to add extra herc …slurries are real good…… Bigfoot do it on your tea day … big foot you want to do once a month …. But don’t add teas to it , use it as a stand alone and substitute it as a tea day ….then back to feed feed tea then feed feed herc …..

7L!fTeD24 said:

Its also only 9 inches tall. Could this be a bad thing?

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Not a bad thing … can be a pain in the ass tho…lol…in flower she will stretch….

7L!fTeD24 said:

Ok on my nftg plant I did a slurry test last night and the ph was 6.5 and 560 ppm. This morning i fed week 3-4 transition feed. There's no more tip burn on new growth.Been using Bloom khaos at 1/4 strength every morning. Things look good. I have been doing more Lst to get my space filled up in this last week before i flip the lights. And ok im not gonna use any nftg nutes on the ff plant besides foliar feeding posiedonzime. I really do think that the dark green leaves and tip burn was because i was adding posiedonzime to my watering feeding schedule instead of foliar feeding because i was foliar feeding bloom khaos. Potassium excess.you think? And when i root drench in flower is it ok to use both? Did more lst yesterday. This plants so short and squat. I. Thinking of doing a defoliation before i flip and strip off all the big fan leaves And lollipop. Any advice on how i can get the biggest yeild from this plant? Ive been spreading it out every couple days bubba and more tops keep comin.the one outside the tent is nftgView attachment 5062059View attachment 5062061

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Don’t foliar and drench at the same time with BK … I thing u got some excess using posiednonzime.. ….. one or the other ….. the lower leafs I would start cleaning her up get some light in there help to dry the soil some ……and when you defoliate don’t do a lot at once , little each day … and allow a week or 2 to heal before putting her in flower.

Nailed it. Thanks a lot. Glad im not having any issues i was intimidated at 1st with all the bottles. I keep getting all the stuff that plays along with the line just to stock up and try different things on different plants and just to have it when i need it and not have to rush and buy anything. I just got the big foot concentrate, i have the 3 microbe life bottles, i have slf 100, ez tea bloom for now and the roman regimen so im good to go. May not need it all now but it'll all get used. The weird green leaves were definitely because while foliar feeding bk i was adding in posiedonzime with 2 feeds. As soon as i cut out posiedonzime it was gone when the soil dried. Im gonna defoliate a little here and there i have 9 days until flower but if its a good idea to wait a lttle bit after defoliation for it to recover i can but i should have enough time what donyou think? Thank you for your knowledge and guidance

bubba73 said:

Just do the normal “flush” no need to add extra herc …slurries are real good…… Bigfoot do it on your tea day … big foot you want to do once a month …. But don’t add teas to it , use it as a stand alone and substitute it as a tea day ….then back to feed feed tea then feed feed herc …..

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bubba73 said:

Just do the normal “flush” no need to add extra herc …slurries are real good…… Bigfoot do it on your tea day … big foot you want to do once a month …. But don’t add teas to it , use it as a stand alone and substitute it as a tea day ….then back to feed feed tea then feed feed herc …..

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You got me doing slurrys and i love it now. No better way to Know whats going on in the soil and taking the little extra time to do them makes everything run alot smoother and im now seeing what nutrients do what to rhe plants and thats exactly why im trying nftg out. Amongst other things.

7L!fTeD24 said:

Nailed it. Thanks a lot. Glad im not having any issues i was intimidated at 1st with all the bottles. I keep getting all the stuff that plays along with the line just to stock up and try different things on different plants and just to have it when i need it and not have to rush and buy anything. I just got the big foot concentrate, i have the 3 microbe life bottles, i have slf 100, ez tea bloom for now and the roman regimen so im good to go. May not need it all now but it'll all get used. The weird green leaves were definitely because while foliar feeding bk i was adding in posiedonzime with 2 feeds. As soon as i cut out posiedonzime it was gone when the soil dried. Im gonna defoliate a little here and there i have 9 days until flower but if its a good idea to wait a lttle bit after defoliation for it to recover i can but i should have enough time what donyou think? Thank you for your knowledge and guidance

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That’s enough of time for healing…. You can do it in flower too but you don’t want to defoliate as much cause it will put its energy in healing and not building flower…… so now it’s critical time to keep an eye on slurries before you flip the switch mainly your ph is inline cause if not then stay in veg till ph is correct. Then flip the switch … same with the feed feed tea , feed feed herc…. It’s a good base line but should follow the slurries …. If it’s a herc day and ppm are 200 you don’t want to “flush” be a feed ….. again if ppm is 700 on feed day don’t want to feed you either want herc or tea , and that will depend on the last time you gave it tea or herc….. same think goes for the ML per gallon …. If she hungry and can’t keep up then either go 8ml or double it…. Over feeding does not apply that’s where your herc and tea comes in and you don’t double that at all….. let’s say in veg your ppm is 900 and ph of 6.6 , wouldn’t give it a feed day . This is where you can use the bk to your advantage as a foliar and give them just herc , that will drive down the ppms and just adding herc will keep you safe…….even now if at 600 ppm and you want to drive it a little lower then up the BK a little ……

I use SLF , easy teas , photo + , fish shit , play with green gro stuff , Scott gave me Neptune , Pluto to play with , before anyone heard of it and pig bone …I also use fulon


amended soil I use : one shot , EWC , earthshine , bokashia …. Some times crustacean meal cause it’s high in calcium….