NFTG. Nectar For The Gods

SmokeyMcscrogin

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Getting good early trichom production now. Stacking fast . hit 3.25 tsp BK to 5 tbsp. HH, 1 tbsp. TK, 2 tsp AE, 1 tbsp TT tonight per gal along with all the others starting to cut DD back. I dont like to run to much TT to my cookie crosses I will probably not go past 1 tbsp. TT for this entire run. . I didn't have time to wait and get pics of the pray. My thinking looking at the plants tonight 3.5 tsp Bk may be my cut off but i will make that desision as I get there.
 

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IrieRoots

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SmokeyMcscrogin said:
A little of the nectar room setup
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Handy craftsmanship on that filter box, nice and clean....... And I assume you refill those quart bottles from larger nute jugs? Thats what I do so I'm not shaking & pouring big jugs, and more importantly not spending that quart bottle price compared to the deal you get when buying gallons, or bigger.
 
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My NFTG Mom and veg tent . I dont have to much to show at the moment because I found my new way of keeping moms with nftg and mini coco DWC. Its just so much easier that I cut down all my moms but cookies N chem for now until her clone takes. I am going to have a room full for monster crop moms it should be fun. all the other leftovers will get ran one more time until I pick the keeper. Anyways I keep moms under 40w led 18-6 and in low 70s high 60s . I hit theses little purple punch moms at 2200 ppms gm and mm every 48 until the roots hit the water I throw in zuse and herk once a week until they demand more . once the roots hit the water I will put enough liquid and food that the plant will drink it all in 4 days but the coco is still wet. My Cookies N Chem mom is in the process of getting cut way back just 1 big top left. CNC mom feeds around 2100 ppms every 48 under 40 watts. The coco cuttings are starting to cannibalize the lower leaves time for food even though I dont see roots yet.
 

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IrieRoots said:
Handy craftsmanship on that filter box, nice and clean....... And I assume you refill those quart bottles from larger nute jugs? Thats what I do so I'm not shaking & pouring big jugs, and more importantly not spending that quart bottle price compared to the deal you get when buying gallons, or bigger.
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lol Thanks again. My Friends all call me Overkill Bill. I like things nice. I am probably going to start buying 2.5 gals of GM MM HH DD and AA if I hit my marks with this round.
 

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IrieRoots

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SmokeyMcscrogin said:
My NFTG Mom and veg tent . I dont have to much to show at the moment because I found my new way of keeping moms with nftg and mini coco DWC. Its just so much easier that I cut down all my moms but cookies N chem for now until her clone takes. I am going to have a room full for monster crop moms it should be fun. all the other leftovers will get ran one more time until I pick the keeper. Anyways I keep moms under 40w led 18-6 and in low 70s high 60s . I hit theses little purple punch moms at 2200 ppms gm and mm every 48 until the roots hit the water I throw in zuse and herk once a week until they demand more . once the roots hit the water I will put enough liquid and food that the plant will drink it all in 4 days but the coco is still wet. My Cookies N Chem mom is in the process of getting cut way back just 1 big top left. CNC mom feeds around 2100 ppms every 48 under 40 watts. The coco cuttings are starting to cannibalize the lower leaves time for food even though I dont see roots yet.
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I use a 4' 40W 4000K on my clone/mom/early veg, works like a charm. Your mom's need that high 2200 dose too? You must go through nectar like crazy. I do like the little DWC pots, you put GM & MM in lower rez, or just pour through coco to saturate?
 
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Well its a big number but they only need 1-2 cups every 48 so its not as bad as it sounds. But yes I need the big numbers There is more to it that I have not got too yet.
 
IrieRoots

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Well its a big number but they only need 1-2 cups every 48 so its not as bad as it sounds. But yes I need the big numbers There is more to it that I have not got too yet.
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I dig it......I constantly experiment so it's nice to get fresh ideas. I get grow A.D.D. so gotta mix it up!!
 
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I run at what most people call to wet. I keep my coco very satrated and very inoculated so I never need to put a lot in the root zone. If I get to behind in coco hydration I never just dump in gallons off food. I fully saturate my media with herk or gaia sometimes a mix then I start topping of with the big hits of food and BK
 
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I actually got this way because I started finding success with the way mike form the Bible grows. It wasn't until I read his advise on DD that things started going really well. DD was my missing link I am a big believer in DD until week 6 for a 12 week strain some strain need a tsp some strains need 5 tbsp. in my garden. I sub in mag amped for anything that needs 4 or more TBSP
 
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IrieRoots said:
I use a 4' 40W 4000K on my clone/mom/early veg, works like a charm. Your mom's need that high 2200 dose too? You must go through nectar like crazy. I do like the little DWC pots, you put GM & MM in lower rez, or just pour through coco to saturate?
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I dump in lower REZ once the roots get to that water line. I usually end up using a lot more MM than GM for most my genetics in veg but not always the case. . I think I to use 40W 4000K hydofarm shop lights they may be 5000K I cant remember. Wallmart just had 40w 4000k shoplights on sale for $14.00
 
IrieRoots

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SmokeyMcscrogin said:
I actually got this way because I started finding success with the way mike form the Bible grows. It wasn't until I read his advise on DD that things started going really well. DD was my missing link I am a big believer in DD until week 6 for a 12 week strain some strain need a tsp some strains need 5 tbsp. in my garden. I sub in mag amped for anything that needs 4 or more TBSP
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Yeah once I started going heavy on the DD, my garden improved 10 fold. Especially since I predominantly run LED. Coco needs that DD too, and I can see where the herc&Gaia is a great team how your using it. I Keep my #4 more on the wet side too to maintain microbes and to keep my topdresses composting.....the straw really helps...., but definitely run a lil drier early to get a root structure first.
 
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I think what happens with nftg is that you get such great populatins of soil fauna that even when you dry just a little all that dead biomass just make the Ph nose dive I think loop may have coverd that and I think he is spot on. As far as DD goes I get my 4 to 5 tbsp. in every third feeding I dont ever mix 4 to 5 tbsp. with high amounts of MM or GM . I could be smoking crack but my experience has been high amounts of dd and N become antagonistic with each other. How ever I can deliver high amounts of AA with DD you can run equal parts no problem I think the AA gets converted to N slow enough that DD can get consumed and mag delivered also without a fight.
 
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IrieRoots

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SmokeyMcscrogin said:
I think what happens with nftg is that you get such great populatins of soil fauna that even when you dry just a little all that dead biomass just make the Ph nose dive I think loop may have coverd that and I think he is spot on. As far as DD goes I get my 4 to 5 tbsp. in every third feeding I dont ever mix 4 to 5 tbsp. with high amounts of MM or GM . I could be smoking crack but my experience has been high amounts of dd and N become antagonistic with each other.
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Going too dry is a killer, throws a wrench for sure. I could see where all that unbonded DD could not dance well with Gaia & Medusa, they are super reactive, may not even be just the N but all kinds of shit getting locked up. The highest I ever take DD is 30 - 40 ml, With GM & MM about the same.........gonna still be on the lookout for any atagonistic signs.
 
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The worst I get anymore is some lime green tops or clawing and its always from under doing or over doing BK . I think that I mentioned before I dont run through at all anymore until final flushes these days.
 
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I have been doing slurry tests every 4 days for over 4 years though I do a slurry every other feeding until week 4 then its always pretty smoth salling for me.
 
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