Northern Lights First Grow Hydroponic

meetjoeblow

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and if the flood and drain doesnt work out for you it looks to me like u have all the parts to a dwc. withe the deep water culture you would just have a container with holes in the top for net pots and an air stone in the bottom of your nutrient slution. first you add a nutrient solution until the water level is around an inch from the bottom of the netted pots. then u add an air stone to the nutes. the air bubbles from the stones rises to the surface and pops creating a very very humid enviornment which the roots will love. also when the bubbles pop they splash the solution onto the rocks ( or what ever medium your using) the solution whicks up to the central root mass developing the roots. once roots develope the process continues but the roots aid in nutrient take up. its like if u hold a long piece of tissue in the toilet the water would come up past the water level. this a basic principle of hydroponics if u create a moist and oxygenated enviornment a plant will grow. this is y i said your plnts r too wet. i believe that since u didnt use the hydro to that your medium retains the nutes longer than it should. but once u fix the roots plant growth should sky rocket but this is something u want to fix before u get too deep into flowering
 

W N L

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my bad dude i meant change the light setting on your camera. make the pics clear
Oh, I didn't realize, thanks for the input, I use my HTC Touch Evo, not sure if there is a setting like that. Will check it out. + Rep for the help either way. Good looks. Thanks.
 

Wolverine97

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We will be reconstructing the ebb and flow today, going to do side by side, easier to get into the res. Hopefully we will have it done before work.. Here are pics of the issue, and fresh pictures.

I just wish I knew what to buy nute wise to fix this.. :-|:wall::wall::wall:

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Cal/Mag+ from Botanicare should do it.
 

W N L

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Got the Cal/Mag, still not seeing too much of a difference, will let it be for now and see where it goes..

Day 30, here are some more pics..

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shnkrmn

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damaged leaves will not heal but new growth should be unaffected. Your problem isn't severe, in any case.
 

W N L

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I appreciate your input! +Rep. I can only hope at this point all starts going up hill. Tired of rolling down it..
 

W N L

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We changed to DWC in hopes that it would save the life of our girls. Here is the new setup. Input is good, but keep it kind please.





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Some pics of the plant and cuttings we made




We know the plants kinda look shaky... Worried, but very positive that we can turn it back around. What do you think?
 

Wolverine97

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I think you'll have much better success with this system, but expect some level of disappointment since they'll be developing a root system while flowering. Ideally the root system would be mostly developed when flowering starts, but I hadn't seen the root pics before I advised you to start 12/12.
 

W N L

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So your saying the root system should have been real nice and long before flowering right? Meaning we will have less yield in the end now? Just making sure I am following. You don't think it will stun the yield a huge amount right? Still hoping to get out of it what I put in. At this point, about $800 . :-|

Thanks for the help man.!
 

Wolverine97

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So your saying the root system should have been real nice and long before flowering right? Meaning we will have less yield in the end now? Just making sure I am following. You don't think it will stun the yield a huge amount right? Still hoping to get out of it what I put in. At this point, about $800 . :-|

Thanks for the help man.!
Think of this grow as a learning experience, you'll know better next time. You'll definitely lose some yield, maybe as much as half honestly, but it's ok because you'll be much further ahead for your next grow. DWC systems can put out a great yield once you've got them tuned in. The thing about the roots is that in flowering you want the plant devoting all of its energy into producing flowers, not having to grow a root system, and a small root system can't intake nearly the nutrient levels that a large one can.
 

meetjoeblow

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those buckets look like theyre from homedepot if so i they are not light proof. but stores like homedepot, lowes, etc... sell plastic sheeting its cheap its like $3-$4 probably lower than that. its like a roll of thick trash bags but its not cut into bags. u unroll how much u want then u cut it wit a razr blade or what ever. it comes in black and white. get the black and cut off a piece big enough to drape around the bucket and cut a hole in the middle for the net pots. this will keep algae from growing in the nutes and fucking with the ph making another problem. and honestly if ur starting over with new nutes and u do the dwc right your roots should grow, and your deficency problem should disappear too. and for the future dude get a calender or a planer or something similar and write down everything u do to the plant and evry strange thing the plant does on the day it happens. it helps.... trust me
 

W N L

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those buckets look like theyre from homedepot if so i they are not light proof. but stores like homedepot, lowes, etc... sell plastic sheeting its cheap its like $3-$4 probably lower than that. its like a roll of thick trash bags but its not cut into bags. u unroll how much u want then u cut it wit a razr blade or what ever. it comes in black and white. get the black and cut off a piece big enough to drape around the bucket and cut a hole in the middle for the net pots. this will keep algae from growing in the nutes and fucking with the ph making another problem. and honestly if ur starting over with new nutes and u do the dwc right your roots should grow, and your deficency problem should disappear too. and for the future dude get a calender or a planer or something similar and write down everything u do to the plant and evry strange thing the plant does on the day it happens. it helps.... trust me
Yea, a calendar seems too easy. ... Lol.. We still don't have one, but we do have a 1-80 day tab that we pull one off each day, to keep track of what day were on. Go figure stoners needing something to help them keep track.. Blah lol.. Will pick one up tomorrow. Have been keeping a grow log on our HDD though.
 

W N L

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NEW Problem.

New spots are starting to show, we did some trimming yesterday and got rid of dead fans on the bottom. I don't think its what causing the spots, but we are noticing a few moths coming out of the closet, so we will be applying Dont Bug Me after we get out of work while the lights are off. Assuming if left alone, they WILL become a problem if not already..


Hate to keep at it, but really try to fix the issue before it gets worse, learning all these def. one by one.
Here are the pictures.. Any pointers are greatly appreciated!
 

meetjoeblow

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something is not right. if u started over with a new system and new nutes you shouldnt have any deficency. the only way would be if your ph is not right. if your ph is right and you are 100% sure its right then its either stress related from changing the setup.. if so dont sweat it.. or a pest problem. check your ph. make sure the nutes in the bottle look ok. no crystals etc.. and check for bugs. im not good wit bug symptoms so i would google it if i were u. but as long as ur not mixing all of the nutes together before adding them ( this can cause nutrient lockout as well) and your ph is ok, it shouldnt be a nute problem. a lot of insectacides fuck with mj so i would make sure before u attempted to treat it for anything
 

W N L

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Yea, I think it was / is a PH problem, it was spiking up to 7, keep dropping it, but next res change, we will be flushing everything out. Not sure how to keep the PH between 5.5 and 6 steadily?
 

shagster

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Here are some pics of day 24, got the 400w MH lowered. Kinda scared me at first when we turned the light on, it was weaker looking than the CFLs lol, gave about 4 minutes and we were like "Damn!". Some bright light lol.



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They ARE quite bushy too, so I am tying to get them a bit taller by keeping the light just a tad bit higher for a few days.

COMMENTS ARE NOT ONLY WELCOMED, THEY ARE APPRECIATED!


LOL I thought that too the first time I turned on the 400MH .

I will be subbing , and following , Im in soil with some Northern Lights
 

W N L

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LOL I thought that too the first time I turned on the 400MH .

I will be subbing , and following , Im in soil with some Northern Lights
Yea man, took a while to warm up lol but once it did , it was mad bright. Glad you subbed man, will keep updating. I dump as many photos as possible a day. :)
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Thanks man!
 
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