Northern Lights X BB auto & Speed Devil auto

Lady.J

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It all depends on what you smoke and how you smoke it. There's no way I could make it last with mids or by using a joint/blunt or even a bong. My pipe is decently sized and as long as I get my high grade stuff I'm good. I've smoked an oz before like like 2 days (4/20-4/21), but that as all mids lol.
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lol ah ok, I was doubting your toking abilities when you said you could last on a gram, thought you might be a lightweight lol...but smoking an ounce in two days is some good chiefin' abilities. What kind of pipe do you have? I don't know if I've tried some poorly made ones or what, but it's hard for me to get high on a pipe because the smoke is too harsh, have to roll a J.
 
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No idea if I'm a lightweight, but I've been smoking 6 years though. I find that a pipe gives you only the marijuana taste. When you smoke a joint/blunt you're smoking the paper too which changes the taste imo. I think a joint is too harsh for me as well. Here's a pic, I haven't cleaned it out. Can fit maybe .3g if I packed it. Just gotta remember that I'm smoking those 1 hit quitters. And besides if I can get just as high smoking less that means less weed I have to buy. I'm more of a smoke by myself person and a social drinker.
 

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lol funny, I think a pipe is harsh and you think a j is harsh. Do agree about the paper changing the taste...guess it's just what you are used to. I usually smoke with my fiance so roll joints...blunts are too much! Paper is so thick ughhh...some pretty gross stuff to have sitting in your lungs. Only smoke those on rare occasions. Also, I don't roll 'normal' joints, roll dutch joints. A normal J is too strong for me, and the way it's rolled without a filter makes it hard to really hit it sometimes.
 
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Yea the paper is also tobacco so that goes hand in hand with all the stuff smoking cigarettes does to your body afaik. Joints are totally better to smoke with people though, you don't need to keep lighting it over and over again. I've smoked out of a 4 way hooka though, pretty nice and the "cool" factor is pretty awesome too. Everything has it's time and place I guess. Whenever I roll joints I use part of a business card as the filter. What's a dutch joint?
 
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You know I have no idea how people use the "auto focus" feature of cameras. My camera kept focusing past the plant to the door. Was lazy so I just used the non-flash auto and auto focus. Usually I use aperture priority and manual focus. Anyway, it's the morning so fan hasn't been installed or anything yet. I just figured I'd check on the plants and take pics while I'm at it. You'll notice an entire side of the blue mammoth is missing...apparently the gorilla tape only works 1-2 times if you take it off and put it back on...the 42w I had fell killed it while I was sleeping about...2 days ago. Only lost like 2-3 nodes as oddly enough the same thing had happened on the same side before. As you can see it's still doing pretty well and nodes have starting popping up. Both plants needs to be LST'ed again as the lights are almost pulled up all the way to the top. Going to find/buy some scotch tape and do the tape method when I water next. I think having to worry about the hairs on the pipe cleaners isn't worth it. We'll see though, I think I'll still keep doing it with BM.

I made a makeshift split with the clip part of a pin I had for the broken stem on the Northern Lights. I also noticed one more leaf of a bottom fan leaf yellowing. Nothing too serious and all the yellow has occurred on old growth. Ah I also cut the tips of the broken stem leafs because I read that's what you do to promote root growth for clones and it lessens the amount of leaves that the plant needs to hydrate. I also read that the cut tips never grow back(which is perfectly fine) and I wanted to have some light get through to the parts of the plant that are for sure living. I'm also starting to fold back leaves that completely cover new nodes. Not a fan of pruning.

Side Note: Not sure I like using flash too much. It's great to not have to worry about lighting, but I think it takes so much color out of the picture. I normally just set it to a slower shutter speed, but I didn't feel like grabbing my tripod for a few pictures.
 

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Yea the paper is also tobacco so that goes hand in hand with all the stuff smoking cigarettes does to your body afaik. Joints are totally better to smoke with people though, you don't need to keep lighting it over and over again. I've smoked out of a 4 way hooka though, pretty nice and the "cool" factor is pretty awesome too. Everything has it's time and place I guess. Whenever I roll joints I use part of a business card as the filter. What's a dutch joint?
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A dutch joint is with king size papers, a filter and just a pinch of tobacco...well my version has only a pinch. Makes the J burn better and incrementally saves weed :p. Oh yea and it makes the smoke less harsh! Big difference with just a pinch of tobacco. I use the natural kind that comes in a pouch...sans arsenic. Most people don't notice it's in there. The Dutch actually put way too much damn tobacco in their joints (a lot of Europeans do). Never buy a pre-made joint! lol. Business cards are best for filters, I use them too :). Don't know about papers having tobacco in them, mine are 100% made from hemp.

 
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You know I have no idea how people use the "auto focus" feature of cameras. My camera kept focusing past the plant to the door. Was lazy so I just used the non-flash auto and auto focus. Usually I use aperture priority and manual focus. Anyway, it's the morning so fan hasn't been installed or anything yet. I just figured I'd check on the plants and take pics while I'm at it. You'll notice an entire side of the blue mammoth is missing...apparently the gorilla tape only works 1-2 times if you take it off and put it back on...the 42w I had fell killed it while I was sleeping about...2 days ago. Only lost like 2-3 nodes as oddly enough the same thing had happened on the same side before. As you can see it's still doing pretty well and nodes have starting popping up. Both plants needs to be LST'ed again as the lights are almost pulled up all the way to the top. Going to find/buy some scotch tape and do the tape method when I water next. I think having to worry about the hairs on the pipe cleaners isn't worth it. We'll see though, I think I'll still keep doing it with BM.

I made a makeshift split with the clip part of a pin I had for the broken stem on the Northern Lights. I also noticed one more leaf of a bottom fan leaf yellowing. Nothing too serious and all the yellow has occurred on old growth. Ah I also cut the tips of the broken stem leafs because I read that's what you do to promote root growth for clones and it lessens the amount of leaves that the plant needs to hydrate. I also read that the cut tips never grow back(which is perfectly fine) and I wanted to have some light get through to the parts of the plant that are for sure living. I'm also starting to fold back leaves that completely cover new nodes. Not a fan of pruning.

Side Note: Not sure I like using flash too much. It's great to not have to worry about lighting, but I think it takes so much color out of the picture. I normally just set it to a slower shutter speed, but I didn't feel like grabbing my tripod for a few pictures.
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They're looking better! Keep an eye out on the yellowing, Nitrogen deficiency starts on the old growth first, then works its way up.
 
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I have half a gallon left of the water(with nutes) left. I was thinking I would just add another half gallon of plain water to dilute it for the next watering. Should I do that or just switch back to plain water since I was fine before then?

Oh yea joint papers are usually tobacco free, I was talking about blunt papers. I've smoked a spliff before, saved me some weed, but the taste wasn't worth it. You mean pre-made joint right? Some of my friends do that. They say it's cheaper than buying grams and rolling the paper. I think they get ripped off in the long run.
 
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I have half a gallon left of the water(with nutes) left. I was thinking I would just add another half gallon of plain water to dilute it for the next watering. Should I do that or just switch back to plain water since I was fine before then?

Oh yea joint papers are usually tobacco free, I was talking about blunt papers. I've smoked a spliff before, saved me some weed, but the taste wasn't worth it. You mean pre-made joint right? Some of my friends do that. They say it's cheaper than buying grams and rolling the paper. I think they get ripped off in the long run.
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From what I understand, you shouldn't reuse fertilizers, need to be used within the first 24 hours. I might be wrong about that though! If you just ferted the plants, wouldn't add any to the next watering. Believe the most you want to fert is every other watering.

Oh yea, and I meant pre-mades....in holland they put way too much tobacco and barely any weed. Def a rip off.
 
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Well the formula calls for 1/4 tsp every watering or 1/2 a tsp every other watering. Granted the plant follows it's own formula. I think I'll just go with plain water anyway. I find it's pretty odd that I haven't seen any preflowers for the NL, but I have for the BM which is 3 days younger. How strong are your plants smelling? J/w because mine stinks up my entire room and the adjacent bathroom. Pretty awesome that everyone smokes where you live. Almost as good as living in a MMJ state.
 
Lady.J

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Well the formula calls for 1/4 tsp every watering or 1/2 a tsp every other watering. Granted the plant follows it's own formula. I think I'll just go with plain water anyway. I find it's pretty odd that I haven't seen any preflowers for the NL, but I have for the BM which is 3 days younger. How strong are your plants smelling? J/w because mine stinks up my entire room and the adjacent bathroom. Pretty awesome that everyone smokes where you live. Almost as good as living in a MMJ state.
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They probably just flower at different times...some plants show faster than others. My plants smell like I just smoked a joint in the living room sometimes lol. But once I put some glade powder on the carpet and vaccum it, light a candle, and spray Febreeze, can't smell them anymore. I love that everyone smokes here...just came from living in a MMJ country for many years so it lessens the shock of hypocritical American culture lol (am american by the way).
 
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Minor Update: Leaves are a bit droopy on the NL. Not sure if it's from the spritzing, the stress, random drooping or w/e. Not too concerned, poor baby has gone through a lot so it's sort of expected. Still watching out for any more yellowing, but so far it seems good. Absolutely loving this fan. I still keep my window cracked open just a little bit because it's 65-70F during the night. Got some electrical tape and taped a few of the branches on the Blue Mammoth. The branches I had LST'd are already back up. I'm going to need to do something about the main stem on the BM. I've got about 10-12 inches left of space to move the lights back. I may look into scrog for my next grow. Seems more efficient and I don't have to think about the proper place to bend the nodes.

Feels like I'll need to water tomorrow night, but I think I'll wait until Sunday just to make sure. The BM's roots aren't as big(I'm guessing) so it's not drinking as quickly as the NL, it's a bit heavier. Temps have been 82-90F. It jumped up while I had the window open while the breaker was turned off since I didn't want the electrician to electrocute himself. Since then it's been 82-86F.

So pretty much nothing special, just another day waiting for buds. I'm glad I only have 5-6 weeks left of this grow, but it's SUCH A LONG FUCKING WAIT without any weed.
 
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Ugh I knew sleeping until 7pm yesterday would bite me in the ass...Checked some of the stems and I noticed some very slight red tint. Got this from one of the stickies, "Some deficiency during flowering is normal, but too much shouldn't be tolerated. Red petioles and stems are a normal, genetic characteristic for many varieties, plus it can also be a co-symptom of N, K, and Mg-deficiencies, so red stems are not a foolproof sign of P-deficiency. Too much P can lead to iron deficiency." So far I've only noticed it on 2-3 side branches on the bottom of the plant. Yellowing has stopped as far as I can see. Anyway, I'm going to water with just plain filtered water like I said, but I'm going to continue watching. I'm more inclined to think that the plant is Nitrogen defiecent based on this, "Older leaves become yellow (chlorotic) from lack of chlorophyll. Deficient plants will exhibit uniform light green to yellow on older leaves, these leaves may die and drop. Leaf margins will not curled up noticeably. Chlorosis will eventually spread throughout the plant. Stems, petioles and lower leaf surfaces may turn purple." Switch out purple for red and you just described word for word what was happening to my plant. Without any Nitrogen high fertilizer the only thing best thing I can do I think would be to leave it alone, until the all the levels of the NPK come down and then start my flowering nutes.

I requested a free sample of this stuff: http://www.hydroponic-research.com/products.html. There's a thread somewhere on RIU about this stuff. Apparently it's the new craze or something. It's a 16-10-30 which is obviously for flowering, with just a bit more N than K. Seems like a good ratio to me. They have hard water(tap) and soft water(distilled, RO) fertilizer.
 
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Cloudz2600 said:
Ugh I knew sleeping until 7pm yesterday would bite me in the ass...Checked some of the stems and I noticed some very slight red tint. Got this from one of the stickies, "Some deficiency during flowering is normal, but too much shouldn't be tolerated. Red petioles and stems are a normal, genetic characteristic for many varieties, plus it can also be a co-symptom of N, K, and Mg-deficiencies, so red stems are not a foolproof sign of P-deficiency. Too much P can lead to iron deficiency." So far I've only noticed it on 2-3 side branches on the bottom of the plant. Yellowing has stopped as far as I can see. Anyway, I'm going to water with just plain filtered water like I said, but I'm going to continue watching. I'm more inclined to think that the plant is Nitrogen defiecent based on this, "Older leaves become yellow (chlorotic) from lack of chlorophyll. Deficient plants will exhibit uniform light green to yellow on older leaves, these leaves may die and drop. Leaf margins will not curled up noticeably. Chlorosis will eventually spread throughout the plant. Stems, petioles and lower leaf surfaces may turn purple." Switch out purple for red and you just described word for word what was happening to my plant. Without any Nitrogen high fertilizer the only thing best thing I can do I think would be to leave it alone, until the all the levels of the NPK come down and then start my flowering nutes.

I requested a free sample of this stuff: http://www.hydroponic-research.com/products.html. There's a thread somewhere on RIU about this stuff. Apparently it's the new craze or something. It's a 16-10-30 which is obviously for flowering, with just a bit more N than K. Seems like a good ratio to me. They have hard water(tap) and soft water(distilled, RO) fertilizer.
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Somebody just mentioned that to me, ordered a sample too! Hope it helps out with your babies. Are you 12-12 now? Somebody linked this thread to me...seriously considering a 12-12 from seed perpetual grow: https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/416589-12-12-seed-thread.html
 
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Someone's been drinking/smoking again lol. Remember I'm growing autos? Yea I've read that thread. Interestingly enough del6666 actually says using CFLs for 12-12 from seed isn't worth it. Somewhere in the thread he mentions he got 1.5oz-2oz per plant using a 600w HID. I actually found that product by reading your thread lol.
 
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Oh I noticed 2 more fan leaves yellowing. That makes it 4 total. 2 large fan leaves and 2 smaller ones closer to the main stem. Pot was very light so I decided to water today. If it continues to yellow I really don't have much of a choice besides using the 20-20-20. Maybe it was just a coincidence that the leaves are started to yellow? My nutes were very very diluted. Also I'm at week 5 so I should have about 1-2 more weeks of vertical growth and then onto bud production.
 
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Someone's been drinking/smoking again lol. Remember I'm growing autos? Yea I've read that thread. Interestingly enough del6666 actually says using CFLs for 12-12 from seed isn't worth it. Somewhere in the thread he mentions he got 1.5oz-2oz per plant using a 600w HID. I actually found that product by reading your thread lol.
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lmao I've been smoking a lot, think this is the 3rd time you told me autos. I know he hates on CFLs a little because he knows that he can get bigger yields using better lights...but for most beginners (and people on a low budget), getting the experience of growing comes before worrying about yield. If I had the option to choose a 600 watt light system, I'd def pick it over CFLs lol. Our buds will be smaller, but they'll still be good, we'll get high as shit smoking something we cared for ourselves. CFLs let me have that experience for the low low ;)
 
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Haha yea I'd love to able to run a 600w in my sterlite bin. Well is experience>yield than 12/12 from seed is a great idea. I'm curious how much you can pull off with CFLs if a 600w gives you 2oz tops. More of a fan of autos anyway.
 
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Haha yea I'd love to able to run a 600w in my sterlite bin. Well is experience>yield than 12/12 from seed is a great idea. I'm curious how much you can pull off with CFLs if a 600w gives you 2oz tops. More of a fan of autos anyway.
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I thought he said he gets 2.5-3 oz per plant and with CFLs he got 1 oz per plant? That's not bad if that's the case...maybe I didn't read it right though...and to be honest I'm too lazy to go back and look lol. Going to see for myself and see how it is...wouldn't mind harvesting buds every couple weeks...especially if a good cloning system is established!

Oh and I didn't noticed your other post before...but it's not a coincidence the leaves are yellowing. Yellowing is a sure sign of deficiency. I mean I could suggest an alternative but I don't know how willing you are to consider it...

In the beginning of my bin grow, I grew a bagseed and it was yellowing a lot. Stunted growth is what comes after the yellowing...will barely change from day to day. Seems like new leaves take forever to unfurl. I had no money or nutes...so I used 15 parts water to 1 part urine...incredible results. The bagseed took off and was so much healthier. I gave the kush and skunk seedlings a little bit more diluted version as soon as I saw the tips of their first leaves starting to yellow...they didn't skip a beat, took off absurdly fast. Was comparing my grow to other growers who had more grows than I under their belt, and mine were often bigger. When they weren't bigger, they were the same size! If you want the proof you can dig through the early pages of my grow if you feel like it. Had absolutely no problems while using urine as a fert...and it's cheap ;)
 
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