Northern Lights X BB auto & Speed Devil auto

The temps haven't change at all, ranges from 78-81 regardless of the combination of lights. I'm gonna go ahead and assume that my ventilation is adequate and my main issue is ambient temps. I've even tried running 3 42w CFLs and the temps still stayed within that range. I'll probably end up buying that 3rd fan and I'm gonna start looking at dry ice methods. Tax refund is getting here by friday at the latest so I'm gonna be be b-b-ballin lol. Also my room doesn't have a fan(the living room does), so I'm going to pick up one of those tomorrow just for my own comfort. Maintenance installs them for free.

Found a high CFM fan: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835132022
Reviews said it was pretty loud, but the dBA is only 5-6 more than the fans I'm using now. $10 is a little more than I was expecting, so I'm still going to look around at least until friday.

Your temps sound good to me! The fan is a good idea, you want to keep those ladies dancing so their stems are nice and strong. lmao wish I was ballin' with you. and you know I had to point out that you're going to be ballin' but a 10$ fan is too much for you player lol. I think for the CFM that it's a really good price...saved it to my bookmarks cuz I might have to get it myself!!

Yea, I don't think I'm going to mess around with the box until the plants get larger and I have to add more lights.

Transplanted Northern Lights into final container, surprisingly enough the roots had actually reached the edges of the pot and stretched all the way to the bottom as well. I added a 42w 6500k in the middle of the bin just to mix the spectrum a little bit so now I'm running 4 26w 2700k and a 42w 6500k. Not sure if I can do the 204w with the tools I have now since I switched to a closed container and I can't think of a way to fit the smaller light clamp in without propping the box open a little bit. I may get another pair of y splitters and attach em to the first pair of splitters so I can add an extra light per reflector. Or I may just go ahead and shell out $11 more for another reflector and then buy an extender and another y splitter so I can run 2 more lights in a much neater way...

You after reading that, paying 3 bucks for a pair of splitters vs 15 for the relfector+extender+splitter kinda seems like a no brainer. I'm currently using a extension cable I already have and a light bulb socket to a/c socket converter. Only issue I may have is that the 42w is in the middle of the bin while the 2 pots are on the left and right side. Not sure how much light it's going to provide, but I've got the tube pointing down level with the plants, so any light it does give off is hitting the entire length of both plants.

BM of course is 3 days behind, but I think the light burn may have stunted it. I think I'm going to stick with 23-26w CFLs from now on, I can put them much much closer to the plants than I can 42w without worrying about heat issues. I just need to figure out the best way to get more lights in the bin.

Still haven't gone to wal-mart or home depot for the ceiling fan and the smaller fan. The apartment office closes in like 30 minutes so I think I'll have to put it off till tomorrow. I may go ahead and grab the smaller fan today though.

In a completely unrelated note do you guys think I should grow the La Diva and Afgan Kush Ryder for my next grow or go 12/12 from start and grow the Pineapple Chunk and Critical Kush? I really don't want to veg for 1 1/2 months and then flower for 9-12 more weeks. Oh the new NL still hasn't spread it's false leaves, so I'm just going to put it outside and hope for the best.

Hi m8, how r u , wa gwan? I see u trying to grow ur self some weed r u no shit me to i bumped in to ur thread and saw the dates , u got ur plants just a little bit after me , but i didn't seed mines,friend did and i just picked up already seeded plants after its first real leafs...that is how much i had a head start...i got it to my apartment and really didn't have any lights, on the windows of the apartment i have light only 3-4 hours a day . So i figured out its not going to do the job. What one can do in that situation ,no money, no light for my plant.... i went to WC to take a nice long dump and think what am i going to do . While load was on its way an idea started coming to me , and by the time u could hear big BANG of pay loud dumping i saw a small Neon light in my WC... that's it , there is my light problem is it was like 6-7 feet from the ground and sealed to the wall so i had to suspense my pot on computer cables and disassemble the Neon light(11W) so that the sanded white plastic reflector wont get in the way of light. There was not much light in that 11W so last thing i needed is something in between light and my plant . It worked, after about a week i've added a PC fan to it , i just suspend it on the neon lights with some computer cable . Before introduction of a fan ,she was all weak an would crumble under the weight of water ,after fan in a day she become strong. It was time for transplanting. I made my pot my self by cutting some plastic box. I made holes for water drainage and all that ,and try to suspend it on the Neon light like i did with smaller pot. It was mision impossible, to much weight of soil and water would break computer cables or neon light so i took a nice dump once again. Idea... make a structure from something a little bit stronger than cables and then hook it up with neon light and then place a pot on the supporting structure. This was a little bit more complicated to do with just things u can find in average apartment ( so the picture in a link below will tell that story). I was happy finishing transplanting and getting it back to its place under the Neon light, she was happy too an continued to grow . After a week more it was getting real big so i got some money and got me self some 42W CFL , after i got the light, i made a grow box in closet and that was 5 days ago, im in to my 3th week and u can see all that progress here( https://www.box.com/files/0/f/289652331 ), as she was doing well i updated her life support system a bit more for every good feedback she was giving me , now we have there CO2 generator , supplement CO2 generator ,air mixer ,climate control ,humidity control, air flow menagment ,supplement 20W 2700K CFL ,some nutes, rain water .... . , i have no measuring devices everything i do is measured in love and she appears to like it . It is my first grow,my first plant , my first box ,its a mystery seed but i can see now its mostly indica strain . If u need explenation on how i menage to do some things just ask ill be glad to answer ..
NOW ILL TELL WHAT I THINK ABOUT UR GROW nuf with mine

Oh man were to start , u nuted the seeding ,plant that is old few days ,because u have no patience , im not going to lie here so don't get this wrong , u were an asshole to ur plants, u were like Stalin in Russia in fear of Hitler so he forced his own ppl( like u were doing to ur plant) to prosper or die...but it didn't work. U almost killed it , u shouldn't do that , young plants need just water and there is no manual to tell u when u should nute ur plant but if u listen carefully she will tell u when is the wright time to give her some boost. First she must ask for it or unused nutes will build up cuz she isn't using them and she will die from intoxication. Then u tried to correct late seen problem with some quick flashing and u end up drowning ur already weak plants. Disaster after disaster , impatience being the main cause once again ,and again u've been an asshole to ur plants , dont get me wrong i know u are doing ur best but since i've done it good first time and u mess up ur second grow for the second time in a row ,that tells me something. Then u burn ur plants with the coolest lights on the market ,i mean come on....and all u have to say to that is ,well im gonna spend a little bit more money on some good fans and itll be alright.. NO IT WONT,THEY WILL DIE if u don't get ur self str8.... it doesn't need ur money ,it need attention and care, pls do nut get me wrong for being this harsh to u but u are killing ur plants 3th time in a row, someone needs to tell u that u are paying to much to ur local market and paying to little attention to ur plants. PLS , don't kill them m8 , ill help u do better job,help u sort ur shit out , get them plants to love u again and build stable environment for them to grow in . and when i save ur plants i just need a few seeds of that nice stuff u got there cuz in my country there is no seed store, its least and fer thing to do if someone saves ur crop. Do we have a deal m8? SRY for bad eng not my 1st language

eside said:

u were like Stalin in Russia in fear of Hitler so he forced his own ppl( like u were doing to ur plant) to prosper or die...but it didn't work.

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LMAO @ the analogy...but I feel where you are coming from. I do see some validity here, but I wouldn't call you an asshole Cloudz . But I am sure that you have learned from these grows and have already been reading and thinking of a different approach.

I fear for the human race when I read posts like these lol. Run on sentences, misspelled words, incorrect punctuation. It's like you just typed without looking. Not sure if serious, but here I go!

I didn't add any nutes to my plants. The soil by itself was too hot and burned them. It's obvious that a 42w bulb will still burn a plant's leaves if it touches it. I had issues getting the lights to stay with the electrical tape(which is why I switched to detergent bottle) and by the time I noticed the tape wasn't holding the reflector it was too late. Flushing it what saved my plants.The "quick flushing" was only before I read Lady's suggestion to do a complete flush. She posted maybe 10 minutes after I did my quick flush. A little bit of curling was worth it to prevent any more nute burn issues. I corrected the problem at the first sign of nute burn. Also if you check I posted the threads in where I asked for help for each of my problems. I got the help of many people in regards to my nute burn and they suggested flushing. Once you notice nute, burn a flush won't fix the problem right away, but it will prevent it from happening again.

My solution to my light burn wasn't fans. I noticed the temp inside the bin was 84F+ and I needed to cool it down. I also appreciate you reading up a few post where I said I switched to 26w CFLs to combat the problems of the hot bulbs. For each problem I've had I corrected it. 97F temp, I moved the plants out of the closet. Nute burn, flush. Curling leaves, let it dry out a bit. Temp in bin too high, I bought fans. Light burn, I move the lights up. Yes, I've had more problems than I thought I would originally, but I feel like I handled each of them in a quick and appropriate manner all while asking multiple people for their opinions.

You don't even have to defend yourself, but I'm glad you cleared that up. With all the issues you've run into, you know exactly how to make this next grow better. Technically the kush and skunk I'm growing now aren't my first grow because I did a test run on that bagseed...and it was all messed up with Nitrogen deficiency. The only reason I probably didn't burn it is because I got lucky and bought an organic soil that had pretty much no nutes in it (I didn't check before ordering, just happened to turn out that way). Everyone runs into problems the first time they grow, and way too many people give up. You keep trying, correcting, and overcoming...that shit is what is important. Not that your first grow didn't turn out to be worthy of a centerfold in High Times. I know you can do it, and I know you WILL grow some dank fire ass doja.

The reason i wrote that anthology of my grow is that i want to get in sync with u guys. I cant really go around and talk to ppl what i grow u get me ,so i was reading and reading till i found some noobz like me to share the amazing experience of growing indoor Yes that noobz are u guys and im a noob in English to, like i said it is not my first Language. I know ive misspelled words but im trying my best here and i know u can get my point its not like i write on German ,its misspelled but stil English now that we have that cleared i just wanna say Clouds that ive red all ur posts , i wanna share this experience and im looking forward to see will u guys accept me as a grower friend. I was a bit harsh on the first hand with Cloudz but that is just because ive red his every post, ur too Lady J, and from time to time he made me prety angry so i got that out on that way,hope u not mad ,its just that i do not want to see dying plants u get me , , i see we are all noobz and in need of colab. That is why im here, il folow ur project and keep u updated with mines if that is ok with u guys and ladies

Cloudz u didnt answer my question?
Do u want me to help u with ur grow, if u dont il just skip that and continue working and updating u on mine( just cant see reason y u would not ) , if u do u can post some fresh pictures for me to see the condition of ur grow and what can be done to make that crop better, im a computer freak and went to Elecrotechniq school and College ,so im more than competent to help u with electric stuff u need to get that grow up and running again. Im afraid u got ur plants stressed and do not think that they dont remember that , ooo they do and they are not happy about that . So getting average results will now be much harder then it was. I think u need help and that we need to get working. Get me proper images of u grow setup and suroundings so i can devise a plan for u, if it works for u then u can send me some of that good seed u got there

Seeing as english isn't your first language I'll assume you don't know much about the culture either. Noob is typically a derogatory term. Beginner would be a better way to say it. Also saying you're more competent than me isn't a good way to show you mean the best. What's wrong with the pictures I have posted? I got my seeds from attitude seeds and shipping seeds international anyway would be a bit of a pain in the ass. You say you read my every post and yet in the second paragraph I stated multiple things I corrected that you said I didn't; in addition that to my reason for the light burn not being the reason you said. While I always welcome help the way you are going about it makes me not want your help. My NL is on node 4 an by BM is on node 3. I understand that the problems I've had will reduce my yield and expect below average results due to the issues I've had. I didn't expect more than a ounce from the start.

My surroundings are just typical stuff. It's in my bedroom at the foot of my bed. If I have any questions I'll be sure to ask them in this thread, but I don't plan on doing a major overhaul of my grow space. I've pretty much copied Lady's grow besides her pot and that she has 3 relfectors with 1 light each(I think right?) while I have 2 reflectors with 2 lights each.

Also I just reread your first post a few things:
I don't need stories that involve people shitting, that contributes nothing.
I have extreme amounts of patience, a lot of people would of given up at this point with as many problems as I've had.
Considering that I fix every problem within a day or 2 I'm far from an asshole to my plants.
I didn't mess up my first grow, they were males...Not sure if you know or not, but you don't smoke the male sex of cannabis. I culled the plants because they had no use. They were around 2 1/2 feet tall.
Going to college for electronics does not really mean anything when it comes to growing plants. Plenty of people DIY(Do It Yourself) and plenty of people have had successful grows with minimal knowledge in technology. Growing plants is not some sort of science experiment. Keep the plants cool, keep the soil moist, give them enough light. That's all that's needed. My issues have nothing to do with technical engineering.
I would prefer you not update your grow in my journal. You can make your own and perhaps link me the thread and that would be fine.

Now ignoring what I hope is a troll...A slight update
I've gotten my ambient temps to go down to 75-78 and so the highest temp I've had in the past 2 days has been 81 degrees. I bought the ceiling fan today an maintenance will install it tomorrow. I had a bit of running around to do in addition to buying the fan so I'm going to buy the smaller fan that goes in the bin tomorrow @ walmart.

I think I know where you are coming from Eside. I understand that you didn't mean to come off wrong even if what you said was a little harsh. Sprichst Du Deutsch? Ich spreche Deutsch aber ich spreche nicht sehr gut lol. Früher habe ich in Wiesbaden leben. Ich liebe und ich vermisse Deutschland!!

Lmao and I'll forgive you for calling me a noob because I admit, I am. Thanks for taking the time to read my grow, and I agree, it's good for us to get together and collab so we can help each other.

And I think I am understanding that you are Deutsch (forgive if I am wrong), and one thing that I do miss about Germans is their brutal honesty. It's hard to get used to it at first as an American because we communicate differently in our culture, but I did feel where you are coming from with what you wrote. Hopefully we can all be cool and help each other out.

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Seeing as english isn't your first language I'll assume you don't know much about the culture either. Noob is typically a derogatory term. Beginner would be a better way to say it. Also saying you're more competent than me isn't a good way to show you mean the best. What's wrong with the pictures I have posted? I got my seeds from attitude seeds and shipping seeds international anyway would be a bit of a pain in the ass. You say you read my every post and yet in the second paragraph I stated multiple things I corrected that you said I didn't; in addition that to my reason for the light burn not being the reason you said. While I always welcome help the way you are going about it makes me not want your help. My NL is on node 4 an by BM is on node 3. I understand that the problems I've had will reduce my yield and expect below average results due to the issues I've had. I didn't expect more than a ounce from the start.

My surroundings are just typical stuff. It's in my bedroom at the foot of my bed. If I have any questions I'll be sure to ask them in this thread, but I don't plan on doing a major overhaul of my grow space. I've pretty sure copied Lady's grow besides her pot and that she has 3 relfectors with 1 light each(I think right?) while I have 2 reflectors with 2 lights each.

Also I just reread your first post a few things:
I don't need stories that involve people shitting, that contributes nothing.
I have extreme amounts of patience, a lot of people would of given up at this point with as many problems as I've had.
Considering that I fix every problem within a day or 2 I'm far from an asshole to my plants.
I didn't mess up my first grow, they were males...Not sure if you know or not, but you don't smoke the male sex of cannabis. I culled the plants because they had no use. They were around 2 1/2 feet tall.

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I'm feeling you on this too...Germans used to rub me the wrong way a lot too, it actually is a part of their culture to be direct like that. I understand why you would feel the way you do because if it had been me, I probably would have flipped out and said some hateful shit.

About my grow, I did have the 3 reflectors with one light each, but I just upgraded (made a new post). And I do want to see pics of how your babies are doing!!!

Look at Lady being the mediator lol. I'll take some pics when the lights come out in 2 hours or so. I have no idea where that stupid charger is so I'm going to use the grow lights as my lights instead of using the flash.

lmao I was just thinking that hahahaha...but it seems like he didn't mean to be offensive though he definitely could have made a better choice of words...I didn't like when he called you an asshole either...but it means something different to them than it does to us. Our cuss words are a lot milder to europeans. They can openly use them at school, work, home...Eside, asshole in America (unless you are friends and joking) is almost like calling someone Hurensohn! Them are fighting words!!

i didnt just call u a noob , i caled him a noob to ,and me ...we are all noobs and that is why im here to be friends with u guys ,we are the same level...but cloudz is giving me some hard time, first thing that ive said when ive came is "how can i help u" , still i didnt get that pictures to try to help . nvm him , u have a grow to share to ? oh i dont spreache Deutsch , im willing to learn but them things take a while

Few things, I said the way you say things makes me not want your help. I didn't say I didn't want your help, only that the way you say things,if you are german this is understandable my uncles g/f is german so I sort of get that. Let's review what a journal is: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/journal, "

BM needs to be watered, I just checked.

Lol ok this guy is just a straight up douche bag, my inner bad bitch is about to come out.... Yes, shit face, you did call me a noob...

**"I cant really go around and talk to ppl what i grow u get me ,so i was reading and reading till i found some noobz like me to share the amazing experience of growing indoor Yes that noobz are u guys and im a noob in English to, like i said it is not my first Language."

"You guys" means more than one person, and since we were the only people you mentioned, you were talking about us. Not that I care, you're being a dick so I thought I would show you that you're wrong.

**"If u don't want my help just say so."

Um he did say so actually.

**"i just left a link where u can see my grow and it will update it self from there ,no uploading pictures here just link to my grow which u do not have to click on nor it will do anything bad to ur journal,it would actually help by having references to other similar grow techniques but nvm ."

Lol no, you didn't just leave a link, you left a big ass paragraph, let me help you remember:

"i got it to my apartment and really didn't have any lights, on the windows of the apartment i have light only 3-4 hours a day . So i figured out its not going to do the job. What one can do in that situation ,no money, no light for my plant.... i went to WC to take a nice long dump and think what am i going to do . While load was on its way an idea started coming to me , and by the time u could hear big BANG of pay loud dumping i saw a small Neon light in my WC... that's it , there is my light problem is it was like 6-7 feet from the ground and sealed to the wall so i had to suspense my pot on computer cables and disassemble the Neon light(11W) so that the sanded white plastic reflector wont get in the way of light. There was not much light in that 11W so last thing i needed is something in between light and my plant . It worked, after about a week i've added a PC fan to it , i just suspend it on the neon lights with some computer cable . Before introduction of a fan ,she was all weak an would crumble under the weight of water ,after fan in a day she become strong. It was time for transplanting. I made my pot my self by cutting some plastic box. I made holes for water drainage and all that ,and try to suspend it on the Neon light like i did with smaller pot. It was mision impossible, to much weight of soil and water would break computer cables or neon light so i took a nice dump once again. Idea... make a structure from something a little bit stronger than cables and then hook it up with neon light and then place a pot on the supporting structure. This was a little bit more complicated to do with just things u can find in average apartment ( so the picture in a link below will tell that story). I was happy finishing transplanting and getting it back to its place under the Neon light, she was happy too an continued to grow . After a week more it was getting real big so i got some money and got me self some 42W CFL , after i got the light, i made a grow box in closet and that was 5 days ago, im in to my 3th week and u can see all that progress here( https://www.box.com/files/0/f/289652331 ), as she was doing well i updated her life support system a bit more for every good feedback she was giving me , now we have there CO2 generator , supplement CO2 generator ,air mixer ,climate control ,humidity control, air flow menagment ,supplement 20W 2700K CFL ,some nutes, rain water .... . , i have no measuring devices everything i do is measured in love and she appears to like it . It is my first grow,my first plant , my first box ,its a mystery seed but i can see now its mostly indica strain . If u need explenation on how i menage to do some things just ask ill be glad to answer .. NOW ILL TELL WHAT I THINK ABOUT UR GROW nuf with mine."

**"U can not act like an ashole to everyone telling u something that u dont like to hear. U act like open minded person, openly asking for an advice or opinion but when that happens u go ballistic on the poor guy tryin to help u"

He didn't act like an asshole to anyone. I thought he was actually considerate. You came on his thread calling him an asshole...and he didn't even call you a disrespectful bitch. I think that's pretty admirable. You're the only person who is saying that he is an asshole so it's actually inaccurate to say everyone...it's just you. All by yourself.

**"u just wanna hear that u are a great grower ,that u have experience and best crop in history but its not happening m8 cuz u r not that guy, ure a kid begging for help in pretty strange way, by telling ppl they are wrong about something they said and judging by ur last post that something is pretty much everything ."

I'm not a psychologist, but it sounds like you really have some issues, and this seems a lot like projection. Whenever I have given him advice or have seen anyone giving him advice, he has always taken it and tried to make his grow better. What people did he tell they were wrong? Did you mean you? One person? lmao jesus dude really? Get the fuck out of here.

**"uve just put this jurnal on the forum to show off ur growing skills and to tell ppl how they are wrong about u and ur grow ,how uve done everything good and have no mistakes, anyone pointing u to ur mistake is just retarded,wright?"

He put up this thread because it's his first time and he clearly asked for help and advice more than once. I have not seen one time where he put that he didn't make any mistakes, he actually says that he made mistakes and then explains what he did to fix them.

-"Prove me wrong by uploading fresh pictures of plants and surroundings so i can work my way on helping u,if u dont change ur attitude and continue being an ass to me i wont even go to trouble of posting u a fresh post where i tell u that im gone. Its up to u whats its gonna be?"

He said he doesn't want your help. Are you retarded or what? Is he supposed to come back groveling to you after the way you disrespectfully and irrationally came on his thread talking shit? Newsflash...nobody wants you here. We tried to be nice. Cloudz even tried to be understanding that you come from a different culture after you insulted him before you've even spoken with him...and then you come writing this shit? You're a loser and I'm quite sure that you suit the definition of asshole to a tee. Now maybe you will understand this better...FUCK OFF.

^How can I double "like" a post lol. Thank you Lady, I wasn't sure if it was just one big misunderstanding or if this guy was as much of an ass as he was saying I was.

I have no problem sticking up for my friends! And if he comes back talking shit he's going to hear some more of my mouth.

That first pic is looking pretty good. I can see that it started to have an N deficiency but it looks like you stopped it. The second pic is the one that's recovering right? Can see the new growth looks healthy. I'm glad you didn't give up on it and kept it going. Which one is the NL by the way? The third one is looking good to go. I can't remember but did you over water not too long ago? Noticed that the leaves are slightly folded, same thing happened to mine and just had to wait it out and adjust the watering. I'm guessing that last one is one you saved too? You're better than me, I get discouraged too easily and would have gave up. I am happy to see they are still hanging in there. Are you able to make a video? I made a little channel on youtube to get a better feel of what the plants look like...maybe you should make one too! I might just talk on mine one of these days lol.