Not another strip build

a2lute

Well-Known Member
20200403_193857.jpg20200403_194936.jpg
Okay, so I'm SUPER happy with this build. Puts out a good 45k lux in a very good spread. This crushes my 600w hid overhead. Not really close to 1000w HID, but they're only 320W!! One quick thing is I had to move the power supply as noted by the one I'm touching. The bus bars did not spread power evenly. The picture from behind shows how I left more room on the hanger &cords for expansion.
 

Airwalker16

Well-Known Member
View attachment 4522461View attachment 4522463
Okay, so I'm SUPER happy with this build. Puts out a good 45k lux in a very good spread. This crushes my 600w hid overhead. Not really close to 1000w HID, but they're only 320W!! One quick thing is I had to move the power supply as noted by the one I'm touching. The bus bars did not spread power evenly. The picture from behind shows how I left more room on the hanger &cords for expansion.
Wow, 80w per 2' strip?!
I couldn't even dream of justifying 960-1000 watts on side lighting. Very jealous. The amount of weight you'll gain on your front lowers the lights are mainly hitting, will be MASSIVE.
Bye Bye Larf!

Those strips are just one connector on each end right? You're not able to run one single row?
 

boybelue

Well-Known Member
You were dealing with a whole different animal. Cast aluminum is a alloy that doesn't weld as easily, and is porous. This means that all that oil in that engine is BURIED up in that thing. What's the biggest part of welding AL? Cleanliness. Cast is annoying to weld, I just OA or tig braze wherever I can.

On a side note, my wire is 3 days late, and still not here. Gonna hook this thing up with NM-B wires, swear to God...
True cast is very porous depending on how an what its cast with, but it's that mix of metals that makes it more difficult, there's magnesium, zinc, iron, silicon and a whole list of stuff that's cast with aluminum to make it more structurally sound because for car engines to airplanes aluminum alone just isn't strong enough, not to mention melting points. Knowing what its cast with and how much is good to know, I learned that the first time I tried to weld an alloy wheel with a high magnesium content, you'd have thought I took a torch to it.
Cleanliness is crucial, we always vatted ours in reducer and a one over with wax and grease remover, all that after an 80 grit rol-loc disc on a die grinder to prep the area.
1585980691029421485032055262180.jpg
I've got 24 of the 96 ct lm561c diode strips over half a 4x8 and I'm falling in love with them and its probably the cheapest light I've built along side the eb gen 2's but trust me 600w of these knockoff ebay lm561c strips kick the hell outta the eb gen 2's ass. And I know 600w vs 600w and the eb strips are supposedly more efficient than these ebay strips but I have my doughts. Maybe it's because the bridgelux are all 3500k and the knockoff sammies are 16:8, 16-2700k, 8-6500k. And I'm a bridglux fan. Samsung too, I'm not biased, I like em all.
 
Last edited:

a2lute

Well-Known Member
True cast is very porous depending on how an what its cast with, but it's that mix of metals that makes it more difficult, there's magnesium, zinc, iron, silicon and a whole list of stuff that's cast with aluminum to make it more structurally sound because for car engines to airplanes aluminum alone just isn't strong enough, not to mention melting points. Knowing what its cast with and how much is good to know, I learned that the first time I tried to weld an alloy wheel with a high magnesium content, you'd have thought I took a torch to it.
Cleanliness is crucial, we always vatted ours in reducer and a one over with wax and grease remover, all that after an 80 grit rol-loc disc on a die grinder to prep the area.
View attachment 4522662
I've got 24 of the 96 ct lm561c diode strips over half a 4x8 and I'm falling in love with them and its probably the cheapest light I've built along side the eb gen 2's but trust me 600w of these knockoff ebay lm561c strips kick the hell outta the eb gen 2's ass. And I know 600w vs 600w and the eb strips are supposedly more efficient than these ebay strips but I have my doughts. Maybe it's because the bridgelux are all 3500k and the knockoff sammies are 16:8, 16-2700k, 8-6500k. And I'm a bridglux fan. Samsung too, I'm not biased, I like em all.
Man, sounds like you were in SWEET shop! I've never had those kinda resources...I shopped around for everything I bought, I don't think I broke the bank here, and there's a total of 1920W of LED side lighting, not 1000W I'll do a price breakdown over today & tomorrow for y'all.
 

Airwalker16

Well-Known Member
Man, sounds like you were in SWEET shop! I've never had those kinda resources...I shopped around for everything I bought, I don't think I broke the bank here, and there's a total of 1920W of LED side lighting, not 1000W I'll do a price breakdown over today & tomorrow for y'all.
6 of those fixtures then, Huh? Man, "If only if only, the woodpecker sighs, the bark on the tree were as soft as the skies."
 

cobshopgrow

Well-Known Member
i think your weldong joint looks good, very clean.
got you, there is no cheap n easy way to weld aluminium, even non casted.
i somehow feared it, often saw rasied eyebrows when the term aluminium and welding where used.
nice grwing area, nice size.
 

a2lute

Well-Known Member
Cost was around 1200 for materials, maybe 18 hours building them? Not too bad for 1920 watts! Realistically I'm only running them around 1500
 

Airwalker16

Well-Known Member
Man, sounds like you were in SWEET shop! I've never had those kinda resources...I shopped around for everything I bought, I don't think I broke the bank here, and there's a total of 1920W of LED side lighting, not 1000W I'll do a price breakdown over today & tomorrow for y'all.
You ever break down your cost list?
 

Phat J

Well-Known Member
View attachment 4522461View attachment 4522463
Okay, so I'm SUPER happy with this build. Puts out a good 45k lux in a very good spread. This crushes my 600w hid overhead. Not really close to 1000w HID, but they're only 320W!! One quick thing is I had to move the power supply as noted by the one I'm touching. The bus bars did not spread power evenly. The picture from behind shows how I left more room on the hanger &cords for expansion.
Those look awesome. Are you going to turn them day 1 of flower or wait 2 weeks, after the stretch?
 

a2lute

Well-Known Member
I ended up finishing them around week 2. In the future I will have them on at flip. My plants are wide enough the outside lagged during the stretch due to lack of light. These would have helped with making an even canopy.
 
Top