Nute off!! Advanced nutrrient's vs cutting edge vs fox farm.

so your going to use clones????

Yes I will be using clone's.

and all of the same strains? What strain/s? From the same mother?

The paln is to do 4 Master kush and 4 Erkles.
1 of each in each nute.
And yes from the same mother.
I am very familiar with the Erkles so that will be a more controlled aprt of the test.
The Master Kush are new in my room. So I figured I would mix it up.

May I suggest adding Dutch Master's Gold Line of nutes? I'm getting excellent results from them.. I've followed their directions to the T although slighly less PPM's because I'm only using a Tall Boy with the AP-85 carbon filter to remove all the chlorine/chloramines. After filtration, the PPMs are still about 150. Noticed no yellowing of any leaves that get adequate light, and no shock/yellowing in transition. In addition, the 5L two part nutrients only cost around $60. You'll still need Silica and Zone though. I also religiously use hygrozyme. Seems to be a recipe for success from what I've gotten so far.

some master kush grown outdoor harvested about 10 days ago Super Stoney Hard Hitter Heavy yielder, a strain worth keeping

Is this under way yet? An beat out fox farms in my last few runs. Erkel as well actually lol. Hope urs goes off without a hitch and u get some fatttt yields... On a side note cha ching is THE shit I yielded about 27% less but the cha ching truely did seem to promote "essential oils" stoney as shit. The flavor wasn't as good either but it hit hard.

I'm in the 6th week of flowering, and have been using the Fox Farm nute schedule. I basically bought into their whole nute line. As a first time hydro grower (crossing over from soil) I had to start somewhere. Anyways, I've been using the Cha Ching and have noticed the size of the buds is smaller than I've normally seen from my soil grows at this point. Does anyone have any experience or lessons learned in mixing Cha Ching and Beastie Bloomz together over the last 2-3 weeks of flowering? Will it increase bud density, or should I just be happy with what I have? The pH / EC / ppm have all been kept in alignment with Fox Farms feeding schedule. I just look at this plant and feel like the buds could be bigger. It's a white widow strain, I picked up on Amsterdam

I would love to see and lot of pictures and proffessionalesque methods in this one

Mcgician said:

May I suggest adding Dutch Master's Gold Line of nutes? I'm getting excellent results from them.. I've followed their directions to the T although slighly less PPM's because I'm only using a Tall Boy with the AP-85 carbon filter to remove all the chlorine/chloramines. After filtration, the PPMs are still about 150. Noticed no yellowing of any leaves that get adequate light, and no shock/yellowing in transition. In addition, the 5L two part nutrients only cost around $60. You'll still need Silica and Zone though. I also religiously use hygrozyme. Seems to be a recipe for success from what I've gotten so far.

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I am thinking that once I finsh this round of test I will start a new round.
I am having a real hard time trying to stay in my plant limit. So I can only do 4 nute's at a time.
I am wanting to also test Humboldt nute's. So I think the winner of this round will go into the next set of test's .

theloadeddragon said:

some master kush grown outdoor harvested about 10 days ago Super Stoney Hard Hitter Heavy yielder, a strain worth keeping

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That is exactly what I am hoping for. I like the knock you're d$%k in the dirt strain's.

erkelsgoo420 said:

Is this under way yet? An beat out fox farms in my last few runs. Erkel as well actually lol. Hope urs goes off without a hitch and u get some fatttt yields... On a side note cha ching is THE shit I yielded about 27% less but the cha ching truely did seem to promote "essential oils" stoney as shit. The flavor wasn't as good either but it hit hard.

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I have been using the foxfarm for over 4 year's.
Something just started doing that has greatly increased my nuggie's.
Is on the feeding schedule the beastie,cha ching and open sesame are in 2 weak interval's each.
After the first 2 weaks with open sesame do a good flush.
Then start with the beastie blooms schedule at the end of the 2 weaks flush again and start the cha ching schedule.
This get't the old stuff out the soil so all that is availible is the new mix witch is what the plant want's at that stage of growth. Plant health stay's happier this way.

ottertalkn said:

I'm in the 6th week of flowering, and have been using the Fox Farm nute schedule. I basically bought into their whole nute line. As a first time hydro grower (crossing over from soil) I had to start somewhere. Anyways, I've been using the Cha Ching and have noticed the size of the buds is smaller than I've normally seen from my soil grows at this point. Does anyone have any experience or lessons learned in mixing Cha Ching and Beastie Bloomz together over the last 2-3 weeks of flowering? Will it increase bud density, or should I just be happy with what I have? The pH / EC / ppm have all been kept in alignment with Fox Farms feeding schedule. I just look at this plant and feel like the buds could be bigger. It's a white widow strain, I picked up on Amsterdam

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Check out the comment I left for erklesgoo above.
It might help you out some. I don't ever use any of the solubles together they are each ment for a certain period in flowering.

wonderblunder said:

I would love to see and lot of pictures and proffessionalesque methods in this one

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Thank's bro I will do my best.
My plan's are to post exact nute mixure's,ppm,ph,ec.
Also watering and transplant schedule.
I plan to post pic's every weak at minamum.

yo i have a question wich advanced nutrients are you using exactly?

thanks erkelsgoo420, hopefully that will do the trick. probably too late for this girl, but the next one will get that cycle.

I think a daily approach on the pics would be better for record keeping (but WAY more of a hassle I know), and your grow journal is closed ....... but at least pics at every watering and every feeding or 24 hrs. there after...... I think in the pro mix the AN will probably win...... but of course........ but I think were you to try different soil combinations, and nute combinations..... results will vary..... I am in the process of looking for a replacement for Fox Farms Tiger Bloom in my nutrient slection...... any good suggestions? everything else I would like to stay the same (Earth Juice Catalyst, Grow, and meta K if needed, Fox Farms Big Bloom, and Bio Bizz Bloom)..... been thinking about switching to a combination of beastie bloomz and Cha Ching to replace the Tiger bloom, as according to the fox farms schedule, they are to be used when I typically use Fox Farm Tiger Bloom..... but I am still open to suggestions......

Are you going to use Open Sesame, Beastie Bloomz, and Cha Ching along with the other fox farms products.... when using the solid line, I have seen the best results from using them < in combination with FF BB TB and Grow....???

ledgrowing said:

yo i have a question wich advanced nutrients are you using exactly?

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I am using the Sensi + program. I will follow there feeding schedule.
I also am hoping to have the cash to add the connosaur by flower time
And then drop the sensi bloom.

ottertalkn said:

thanks erkelsgoo420, hopefully that will do the trick. probably too late for this girl, but the next one will get that cycle.

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It is more work but they o just love it.

theloadeddragon said:

I think a daily approach on the pics would be better for record keeping (but WAY more of a hassle I know), and your grow journal is closed ....... but at least pics at every watering and every feeding or 24 hrs. there after...... I think in the pro mix the AN will probably win...... but of course........ but I think were you to try different soil combinations, and nute combinations..... results will vary..... I am in the process of looking for a replacement for Fox Farms Tiger Bloom in my nutrient slection...... any good suggestions? everything else I would like to stay the same (Earth Juice Catalyst, Grow, and meta K if needed, Fox Farms Big Bloom, and Bio Bizz Bloom)..... been thinking about switching to a combination of beastie bloomz and Cha Ching to replace the Tiger bloom, as according to the fox farms schedule, they are to be used when I typically use Fox Farm Tiger Bloom..... but I am still open to suggestions......

Are you going to use Open Sesame, Beastie Bloomz, and Cha Ching along with the other fox farms products.... when using the solid line, I have seen the best results from using them < in combination with FF BB TB and Grow....???

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I wonder why you're dropping the tiger bloom. I really like it.
I have alway's tryed to use the full line up of whatever nute's I am using.
To me the 3 liquid's and 3 soluble's from foxfarm is a good set.
I normally use 50\50 OC and LW for soil. No nute's in veg and then follow the bloom feeding schedule. With the flushes done at the right time's it give's really flavorfull nug's.
I amgoing to try switching my flush solutoin to AN H2 from what I have been reading flushing soil with the H2 has a ton of benefit's.

I am not as impressed with the TB as I used to be (they changed some things bout their nute line up a year or two ago, before that I was very happy)..... it doesn't react well in other soils when mixed with other nutes.... and produces tastes that are less than desirable compared to plants that I haven't used it on, but still used the other nutes (buds were even almost same size, and weight, slightly less dense)....... it seems too easy for problems to occur in the medium when I use it........

Now you got me wandering.
I started having issue's with PH about a 2 year's ago.
I add some dolomite in the last transplant before flower and it seem's to have helped.

yeah constantly having to ph up with the TB is a hassle...... tspn of dolomite lime cultivated in just before feedings every three weeks or so helps a lot though....... just want to find something better, know what I mean....... thinking maybe some BMO would do the trick..... will have to do a comparison to see though....

Well there has been a slight change in my test plan's
Not too big hopefully everyone like's the change.
Well I really want to stay in my legal number's so since I am on a weakly cycle harvesting 3 a weak.
Starting monday I will do 4 Master kushes. 1 in each of the 4 nute's I am testing.
Then next monday I will start the 4 purple's 1 on each of the 4 nute's.
They will only be 1 weak behind the Master Kush.

Dude the BMO you will love.
I would suggest the grow it green along with the foloir and Super plant tonic.
There nute's with some added Guanu's gave me the best tasting nug's i have grown yet.
And the prices are so fair.

oh yeah..... I have been considering it for quite a while.... have seen the results (and experienced them too) first hand..... exactly why I was considering the switch..... I will look into it some more and then do a test run for comparison of side by side results (just BMO compared to FF TB..... everything else stays the same )