Everytime u use this AN PH perfect 3 part, grow, micro, bloom on my plants its either turns on leaves yellow or slows the growth of the plant. I've tried starting them on the regular dosages an even running it super low, it calls for 4ml per liter. My last does I used was 2.5 ml per 2 liter's an I still got burns on my plants. The lower leaves turned yellow an were I dropped the water on top of the plant it left a yellow dot on the leave. Can anyone tell me what im doing wrong?. This ph perfect AN. Brand says I have to add all three two one bottle for it to work an for the ph levels to be perfect. The npk is mirco 2-0-0 grow 1-0-4 bloom 1-3-4 . I'm not sure how to make a different npk if one is provided .
nutreints keep burning my leaves why?
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The AN I have is supost to make the water you mix it with perfect. Its supost to make the ph levels right. Here read this.
**NEW FORMULA PH PERFECT
5-in-1 Grow, Micro, and Bloom base nutrients are for growers accustomed tousing three-part nutrients. Advanced Nutrients has refined and developed the most full spectrum threepart nutrient package available to growers
The Grow, Micro, Bloom base nutrients contain value-added components that will enhance the performance of any type of garden, and include:
F-1 (fulvates) H-2 (humates) An amino acid complex Wet Betty (non-ionic surfactant)
The combination of the pH Perfect Technology, simplified mixing rates and levelof chelation in the balanced nutrient ratios ensure that crops always have access to the highest level of nutrition and vitality boosters possible
Growers using the pH Perfect Technology nutrient technology will not have to worry about pH in their nutrient solutions, because the new formulas are able to adjust the pH to the optimal range automatically. Combining an optimal pH level with these cutting edge chelates has growers reporting back with a new standard in yieldexpectations.
In fact, the chelation technology used is so effective, that nutrients would stillremain available to plants in conditions that would not normally allow crops to grow at all. However, growers wont need to worry about that because the formulas keep your pH in the optimal range at all times.
The Grow, Micro, Bloom combo pack provides you with all three components of our advanced three-part feeding program. Together, Grow, Micro, and Bloom make up a superior hydroponics fertilizer that provides optimal nutrition.Ifyouwanttoachieve fast growth, high yields, and incredible products, choose Grow, Micro, Bloom.
Promotes healthy plants and fastest growth possible Pharmaceutical grade precursors More chelates per micronutrient than other manufacturers Nutrient absorption from a broader pH spectrum Concentrated, less-expensive formula Easy to use
Using the three-part Grow,Micro, Bloom feeding program is easy. We suggestusing a 1:1:1 feeding ratio, but we don't discourage the use of a 1:2:3 ratio or a 3:2:1 ratio that might be preferable to old-school growers. That's one of the many great aspects of this three-part system -- it's flexible and can be adapted to suit your particular needs and preferences. When using Grow, Micro, Bloom, Micro should be added to your reservoir first,followedby Grow, and then Bloom.
With "pH PERFECT" Technology, You'll never have to worry about ph levels again! If you've ever experienced off-color leaves, slowgrowth or low yieldwith your plants... then you've probably noticed mysterious pH and PPM fluctuations happen at the same time. It's one of the biggest obstacles to getting "Grand Master Grower"yields from your crops. In fact, many growers find that manually checking and adjusting pH levels two times per day, to try to keep their plants growthstable and maximized is tiring, time consuming and one of the biggest hassles of trying to get their plants through the growth stage quicker. However, with SENSI GROW you'll eliminate pH checking forever because of the proprietary "pH Perfect" technology it uses. In short, as long as your water fallsbetween4.5 and 8.5 pH (which is pretty much everyone's water) - this technology adjusts your pH for you and keeps it buffered there throughoutyour plants growth phase! Which means you'll never havetomanually adjust your pH... you'll never have to worry that your plants aren't in the premium growing environment...all you have to do is add the SENSI GROW to your water and the "pH Perfect" technology takes care of all that for you!
By simply using the value added, combined formulations there are fewer bottlesandeasier mixing rates. Add 4 ml of base nutrients, and 2 ml of the additives per Liter,andthats it. The pH of the solution will instantly correct itself into the optimal range when the components are mixed with water. The formulations contain a proprietary smart release of acid and alkaline molecules, that will correct the pH to optimum and keep it there. With the Bigger Yields Flowering System, nutrient uptake is unparalleled. Chelation is a process that makes nutrients more available to plants on a molecular level. The nutrients supplied to the crop will havethe highest level of chelation available from any product in the marketplace, ensuring maximum nutrient uptake; under the widest range of growing conditions. Combining the pH Perfect Technology with an unsurpassed levelofchelationensures that the balanced ratios of the formulations used in the Bigger YieldsFloweringSystemare constantly being delivered toandtaken upbythe plants rootsystem.The formulas used take care of the crop from top to bottom, promoting hugerootsystems,thicker stems, bigger leaves and the hugest blooms. Advanced Nutrients has added value and simplified the use of the individual products in the system by creating 2-in-1 and even 5-in-1 products. For example, when growers add base nutrients, not only will they be adding balanced ratios of chelated macro and micro elements; they will be adding crop enhancers such as humates, fulvates,aminoacids,and even a high quality non-ionic surfactant. These crop enhancers can help to improvethe performance of any growing system,whether the grower likes togardenindirtor produce hydroponically. Each of the growing levels offered gives progressivelybigger yields;the grower selects the level that suits their skill level and needs.
This package iccludes 1 each of Advanced Nutrients Micro, Grow & Bloom
**NEW FORMULA PH PERFECT
5-in-1 Grow, Micro, and Bloom base nutrients are for growers accustomed tousing three-part nutrients. Advanced Nutrients has refined and developed the most full spectrum threepart nutrient package available to growers
The Grow, Micro, Bloom base nutrients contain value-added components that will enhance the performance of any type of garden, and include:
F-1 (fulvates) H-2 (humates) An amino acid complex Wet Betty (non-ionic surfactant)
The combination of the pH Perfect Technology, simplified mixing rates and levelof chelation in the balanced nutrient ratios ensure that crops always have access to the highest level of nutrition and vitality boosters possible
Growers using the pH Perfect Technology nutrient technology will not have to worry about pH in their nutrient solutions, because the new formulas are able to adjust the pH to the optimal range automatically. Combining an optimal pH level with these cutting edge chelates has growers reporting back with a new standard in yieldexpectations.
In fact, the chelation technology used is so effective, that nutrients would stillremain available to plants in conditions that would not normally allow crops to grow at all. However, growers wont need to worry about that because the formulas keep your pH in the optimal range at all times.
The Grow, Micro, Bloom combo pack provides you with all three components of our advanced three-part feeding program. Together, Grow, Micro, and Bloom make up a superior hydroponics fertilizer that provides optimal nutrition.Ifyouwanttoachieve fast growth, high yields, and incredible products, choose Grow, Micro, Bloom.
Promotes healthy plants and fastest growth possible Pharmaceutical grade precursors More chelates per micronutrient than other manufacturers Nutrient absorption from a broader pH spectrum Concentrated, less-expensive formula Easy to use
Using the three-part Grow,Micro, Bloom feeding program is easy. We suggestusing a 1:1:1 feeding ratio, but we don't discourage the use of a 1:2:3 ratio or a 3:2:1 ratio that might be preferable to old-school growers. That's one of the many great aspects of this three-part system -- it's flexible and can be adapted to suit your particular needs and preferences. When using Grow, Micro, Bloom, Micro should be added to your reservoir first,followedby Grow, and then Bloom.
With "pH PERFECT" Technology, You'll never have to worry about ph levels again! If you've ever experienced off-color leaves, slowgrowth or low yieldwith your plants... then you've probably noticed mysterious pH and PPM fluctuations happen at the same time. It's one of the biggest obstacles to getting "Grand Master Grower"yields from your crops. In fact, many growers find that manually checking and adjusting pH levels two times per day, to try to keep their plants growthstable and maximized is tiring, time consuming and one of the biggest hassles of trying to get their plants through the growth stage quicker. However, with SENSI GROW you'll eliminate pH checking forever because of the proprietary "pH Perfect" technology it uses. In short, as long as your water fallsbetween4.5 and 8.5 pH (which is pretty much everyone's water) - this technology adjusts your pH for you and keeps it buffered there throughoutyour plants growth phase! Which means you'll never havetomanually adjust your pH... you'll never have to worry that your plants aren't in the premium growing environment...all you have to do is add the SENSI GROW to your water and the "pH Perfect" technology takes care of all that for you!
By simply using the value added, combined formulations there are fewer bottlesandeasier mixing rates. Add 4 ml of base nutrients, and 2 ml of the additives per Liter,andthats it. The pH of the solution will instantly correct itself into the optimal range when the components are mixed with water. The formulations contain a proprietary smart release of acid and alkaline molecules, that will correct the pH to optimum and keep it there. With the Bigger Yields Flowering System, nutrient uptake is unparalleled. Chelation is a process that makes nutrients more available to plants on a molecular level. The nutrients supplied to the crop will havethe highest level of chelation available from any product in the marketplace, ensuring maximum nutrient uptake; under the widest range of growing conditions. Combining the pH Perfect Technology with an unsurpassed levelofchelationensures that the balanced ratios of the formulations used in the Bigger YieldsFloweringSystemare constantly being delivered toandtaken upbythe plants rootsystem.The formulas used take care of the crop from top to bottom, promoting hugerootsystems,thicker stems, bigger leaves and the hugest blooms. Advanced Nutrients has added value and simplified the use of the individual products in the system by creating 2-in-1 and even 5-in-1 products. For example, when growers add base nutrients, not only will they be adding balanced ratios of chelated macro and micro elements; they will be adding crop enhancers such as humates, fulvates,aminoacids,and even a high quality non-ionic surfactant. These crop enhancers can help to improvethe performance of any growing system,whether the grower likes togardenindirtor produce hydroponically. Each of the growing levels offered gives progressivelybigger yields;the grower selects the level that suits their skill level and needs.
This package iccludes 1 each of Advanced Nutrients Micro, Grow & Bloom
This is what it looks like.
http://www.advancednutrientsonline.com/proddetail.php?prod=m-g-b-php&cat=12
http://www.advancednutrientsonline.com/proddetail.php?prod=m-g-b-php&cat=12
keysareme
Well-Known Member
Since you are doing just as it says and even feeding her smaller doses and still having burns your soils root ph may be off so she may not be able to really eat balanced. You can always flush your soil with bone meal and that will bring its pH back in balance. You would want an 0-10-0. Liquid bone meal.
lol..............
Wow really? WTF would flushing with bonemeal do? Flushing with an organic amendment, that's all the rage now? I fail to see how this will "even" out soil pH.
tikitoker
Active Member
AN is formulated to work within a range of 4.5 - 8.5 (water PH) don't add anything but advanced nutrients with advanced nutrients. I use them and they do work. Feed/water/water/feed that how you should be doing it. If you are burning its most likely your environmental conditions are not in tune to your feeding regimin. Just feed her more H20 and dose her like 1x per week if in soil. whats your soil mix made of? if its peat based it has a high CEC (caution exchange capacity) and it tends to hold nutrients and release when the plant needs them. your overfeeding
AimAim
Well-Known Member
You do not have a clue what you are talking about. Quit spewing nonsense.
Its miracle grow quick dry, feeds for 6-8 month's that's whats the bag says. My last plants were some seeds from a bag of weed, I didn't know what kind of strains were there or anything. I got 12 boys an 12 girl's from all the seeds, anyway is it possible like u said that the plant just can't take it possibly bc it's a massive cannabis field seed that never got any nuts? Like it was just grown in columba or somewhere in a field an only got rain water an whatever was in the dirt it was planted in.? Bc I bought a dinafem white widow an some northern light blue auto's, when I game them some of it they seemed to be alright with it. Except one northern light. Got burned a little but it wasn't as big at the other two, but was planted at the same time they were.
Brokeoldbloke
Active Member
The MG soil already has nutes in it. Thats why you're over feeding. Keep backing off the strength of the AN and hope you don't get a deficiency once you get to a stable level. Use a low nute soil base next time.
Cat Jockey
New Member
Why are you so fixated on AN? Don't believe all 'o da hype. Shit ain't working for ya? Throw it in the trash and go buy other nutrients, that are probably cheaper, and no less effective.
There is no 'miracle' solution of nutrients. Don't confuse you lovin' da shit out of yer doggie and getting him fat, 'cause you toss him treats all day, and you fattening up your plants by tossing a whole bunch of 'food' at them. It doesn't work the same way.
This whole fuggin' industry, from the seed banks, to the dispensaries, to everything else inbetween, is about one thing for a whole bunch of people, nutrient manufacturers like AN included:
Money. They wanna take that shit from ya ...
There is no 'miracle' solution of nutrients. Don't confuse you lovin' da shit out of yer doggie and getting him fat, 'cause you toss him treats all day, and you fattening up your plants by tossing a whole bunch of 'food' at them. It doesn't work the same way.
This whole fuggin' industry, from the seed banks, to the dispensaries, to everything else inbetween, is about one thing for a whole bunch of people, nutrient manufacturers like AN included:
Money. They wanna take that shit from ya ...
tikitoker
Active Member
Your right about advanced----big ripoff. The only thing I like about them is the PH Perfect. But it's only perfect when you first mix it up. I have the grandmaster bundle with sensi and conni and I rarely use them, still find myself having to add PH down to the fake as PH Perfect in hydro systems. PH stay good at 5.8 for 1 day. Better off not using them and save money.
Is fox farm soil a low base nutrients soil I can use? I want to use coco but I cant afford buying nuts every month.
If I stopped using soil an went to hydro, would I be using more money on nuts then if I kept buying soil an bigger pots an shit?
Ive got these huge pots for my plants and it's taking up way to much space, does hydro save space an make it easyer to use nuts? Sorry for the off the wall question I just want to see what nutrients can really do ,but i cant do that bc its messing my shit up keeps killing my plants lol not making them do any of the things it says it does.. how long does it take to even notice that shits working anyway?
If I stopped using soil an went to hydro, would I be using more money on nuts then if I kept buying soil an bigger pots an shit?
Ive got these huge pots for my plants and it's taking up way to much space, does hydro save space an make it easyer to use nuts? Sorry for the off the wall question I just want to see what nutrients can really do ,but i cant do that bc its messing my shit up keeps killing my plants lol not making them do any of the things it says it does.. how long does it take to even notice that shits working anyway?
I've used this stuff like 4 different time's but not all at once, I would use it an it would burn my leaves, make them curl or just plan out stop my plants from growing at all.
So I would wait a while an try it again thinking, maybe I used too much an the same shit wouldn't happen, so on an so forth.
I'm beginning to believe its the AN an not me. I never over doesed the mixes, ever! if anything I always used less then needed after the first miss haps.
I hear people saying. " AN is _ the shit" or AN sucks " so I never no what to think, people are always saying on this fourm stop ripping on AN. So I got to say, I m not sure what to think but im leaning more towards it's a scam an need info on a better soil base nutrients product that will no doubt give me eye seeing results .?.?.
So I would wait a while an try it again thinking, maybe I used too much an the same shit wouldn't happen, so on an so forth.
I'm beginning to believe its the AN an not me. I never over doesed the mixes, ever! if anything I always used less then needed after the first miss haps.
I hear people saying. " AN is _ the shit" or AN sucks " so I never no what to think, people are always saying on this fourm stop ripping on AN. So I got to say, I m not sure what to think but im leaning more towards it's a scam an need info on a better soil base nutrients product that will no doubt give me eye seeing results .?.?.
tikitoker
Active Member
AN doesn't suck, it's just way too expensive and in the hands of a vetran grower are the same as a NON "PH Perfect" nutrient. They do work to some degree as the advertising says. I have every singe fuckin product they sell. and let me tell you first hand brother, they are not worth it. They are formulated so you have to use their products. Lets say you have a cal/mag issue and your in hydro, if you add cal/mag in addition to the base nutes you are going to have deficiency's. All their additives are broken up to the point where if you wanna have some killer sticky gooey snow covered pungent smoke, it's gonna cost you $750.00 There is no point in paying for water. read read read, as much as you can and learn how to mix and formulate your own fertilizer, when you figure it out getting the raw minerals for hydro or ammendmants for soilless you will have the same results as what that AN rep blew at you. Fuck the PH PERFECT, all it is is chelated forms of nutrients and a wetting agent with some organic acid. that's your buffer. heavy feeding plants will blow thru water and nutrients like there is no tomorrow, so the PH PERFECT don't last very long, your ph will rise and your not going to be able to top-off with 1/2 strength because there is no room (lets say), so now you gotta dump the whole fucking batch and make more water and add ferts. $$$$ see the pattern. or your gonna be dumping PH down in because your PH is anything but perfect, and that's gonna fuck up your nutrients giving more P and impeading the uptake(balance) of others. I spend a fraction on mixing my own supersoil with all the buffers, amino acids, humates, fulvates, microbes, N-P-K-CA-MG-S + micronutrients. Properly made soil is better than any fertilizer you can buy and its all chelated and PH buffered. just add water! However I see nothing wrong with using AN products aside from the price and water, other than that they do grow nice looking plants. Just monitor your runoff's PH and EC and feed/water/water/feed. stop 2 weeks before harvest and flush the last 7 days before you chop. Or use final Phase(I do and this shit works great!) its a clearing agent that draws all the salts out of the plants so you can feed them bitches really up to 3 days before chopping. Cannabis that has salts in it when harvested is not medicine, it poison and tastes like shit.
tikitoker
Active Member
also forgot to add that my supersoil have all the b-vitamins and natural growth hormones. and when you make your own soil its only going to give you what you give it, so diversity is key. Plants that have unlimited access to a buffet are happier than just eating the same shit day after day. Diversity in nutrition also give diversity in microbes and that's where the majic really comes from in true organic cultivation.
tikitoker
Active Member
yesssss sir. BUT you have to cook the soil for 2-3 months so all the bact/fungi can break down the ammendments and make them available.