OA. Third grow, first in hydro. 600w Growlab Tent/Ebb&Flow/Hydroton

Fuck yea they are, I had to ask the wifey to hold it up while I strapped it.
I think the Co2 thingy would work better if you had like 4-6 of them in there, but one or two isn't gonna do it.
Maybe there isn't enough pressure built up inside the bottle, like maybe the valve is too loose so it's just letting too much pressure out you know?

Regardless of Co2 or no Co2 your shit is gonna fuckin be bomb digity, your plants are lookin fresh, and they are big!
your skywalker is gonna turn out like my fucking desert dream ahhhhh!

so happy you started like a month after me, so when i'm completely bored of my shit I can just pop this open and it's a whole new game :]

steeZz said:

Fuck yea they are, I had to ask the wifey to hold it up while I strapped it.
I think the Co2 thingy would work better if you had like 4-6 of them in there, but one or two isn't gonna do it.
Maybe there isn't enough pressure built up inside the bottle, like maybe the valve is too loose so it's just letting too much pressure out you know?

Regardless of Co2 or no Co2 your shit is gonna fuckin be bomb digity, your plants are lookin fresh, and they are big!
your skywalker is gonna turn out like my fucking desert dream ahhhhh!

so happy you started like a month after me, so when i'm completely bored of my shit I can just pop this open and it's a whole new game :]

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You'll never be bored haha. You will just start doing new things. That is why I have been fscking around so much on this grow. I want to try everything to see what work s, and what works for me especially.

I have to go get some new rope a dope thingies. I had to get a drill last night to put the flange on the stupid can filter. My phresh filter already had that and it was lighter...I don't think it being light has anything to do with it working well. It was damned easier to put up though.

Duct-Tape is what I used works just fine.

hey if you guys ever need good duct tape.. the regular stuff works good but it will loosen up with the heat ect if you put it on ducting that is warm.... but that black Gorrilla brand duct tape is a beast... It is expensive.. and I would only use it where you know it will be hard to keep things sealed or together.. but the shit is like gorilla cum...super sticky... it does not let go and is VERY thick ( steez you know the consistency of gorilla semen LOL) .. really good for patching holes.. holding ducting that you cant clamp .. basically all the bullshit we run into at times in the grow lol.

I got clamps at the hydro store this morning. I was just waiting to put them on when I got home from class tonight. I got back and my temps were, like the Fire Nation had stormed Mordor and battled the Balrog, basically.

I was using regular duct tape because I saw it was working for you. I, also, didn't take into account how much smaller your fan is than mine. The exhaust end of the fan had blown off. Luckily, I had gotten those screw type clamps. You know. The ones you use a flat head screwdriver to pull the circle together. Anyways, I got those and slapped them on. Temps shot straight down. I am going to be sealing them up with the Reflectivity tape I mentioned before. Alotaball was right on the money. I noticed while I was fixing it, that it was popping off due to the high temp air running through melting the adhesive (or whatever, all I'm saying was it was popping off).

I have the tent situated, so that I can be on my computer (finally got a desk) and stare at the girls whenever I want. It is pretty much tits mcgee. Hopefully, I have everything dialed in after moving the tent. It feels so much cooler in the room as I have been here responding to people and typing this response. The light is so pretty when you are so very medicated as I am right now. This Tangerine has got to be the original Tangerine Dream, because that is where I feel like I am right now.

Sorry, they are so fscking sexy. I just went and fixed all their little signs. ( I stopped typing and got lost in them for about 30 minutes.)

Poor God's Gift, she has shot up to 11 in. Not as tall as the other's, I love her though. I want her buds to be the prettiest.


What is there to say about this fscking Skywalker. Such a hearty fellow. I hope his danks are the dankiest.




All my pretty girls. I hope they all survive me.




Skywalker from the side.


Also, put my sign up. I am overall pretty excited with having gotten more situated after the crazy move. Hope the move is worth it. I am thinking it will be, because the tent has more access now. Reservoir changes will go much more smoothly. The room they are in now is more isolated. Which will help with bugs and bs...Fsck this Cherry Soy Yogurt is sooooooo bomb!

Did I mention I threw water bottles in the reservoir to chill it. Threw (5) 1.5L bottles in there within the last 2 hours or so. Threw them back in the freezer, will probably throw a couple in there before I head to sleep. I want a water chiller, but that is expensive. I kind of like the little bit of work I get to do chilling the reservoir. It fills the hole between reservoir changes. I am used to growing in soil after all, and I like that in soil you (IMO) are more tuned in with your plants. Maybe that coupled with not having my tent in a sweet location like it is now, was what had me so stressed. I kind of felt like I couldn't be enjoying them where they used to be.

Oh yeah, definitely gonna have some Desert Dream space issues in this bitch. I have a plan for reservoir changes with the more open room too. I will be able to pump the water out of the reservoir with the pumps I normally use for the drip system. Then I will get a garden hose from Home Depot and attach it to the spigot that the tent was blocking before and fill that bitch up quick as a whip. I am using tap water (around here the tap is almost scientifically engineered for growing plants) adding the nutes and some algaecide/fungicide/bactericide/virucide.


Got a to spray neem around when the lights go off in the morning.

Guess that about raps it up on the update. Hope you are all enjoying the rollercoaster.

alotaball said:

hey if you guys ever need good duct tape.. the regular stuff works good but it will loosen up with the heat ect if you put it on ducting that is warm.... but that black Gorrilla brand duct tape is a beast... It is expensive.. and I would only use it where you know it will be hard to keep things sealed or together.. but the shit is like gorilla cum...super sticky... it does not let go and is VERY thick ( steez you know the consistency of gorilla semen LOL) .. really good for patching holes.. holding ducting that you cant clamp .. basically all the bullshit we run into at times in the grow lol.

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LOL, I was also thinking about using that foil tape shit but it looks kindof papery, I know what you mean though man some spots I want taped, but some spots I want fucking taped you know?
Im way jealous of your fucking spray bottle you ass! You had to go and one up my 360 degree nozzzle spray bottle didnt you !

It does look like you're gonna have some desert dream problems man, maybe even worse im not even joking.
your tent is already getting out of control.... I must say though, not having enough space has to be the only thing that makes me want to stop growing.
If I wasnt moving into a bigger flowering tent after this, I would just take my light out and not even use a tent, cause I need, more, plants!

lookin damn good my man, from beginning of veg to now holy shit!
can't wait to be chillin smoking like 12 different types of herb with yo assses



oh and hopefully you get some shitty plants so we can make BHO and hash! RAWR!

steeZz said:

LOL, I was also thinking about using that foil tape shit but it looks kindof papery, I know what you mean though man some spots I want taped, but some spots I want fucking taped you know?
Im way jealous of your fucking spray bottle you ass! You had to go and one up my 360 degree nozzzle spray bottle didnt you !

It does look like you're gonna have some desert dream problems man, maybe even worse im not even joking.
your tent is already getting out of control.... I must say though, not having enough space has to be the only thing that makes me want to stop growing.

That reflectivity tape is pretty great. It is pretty solid and when you take it off, it come off clean. Unlike soft pliable duct tape. It's nice, but you still should clamp down ducting. I had zip ties on there before and didn't wanna buy new ones. That was absolutely a bad idea haha. I should've run that one by you actually.
If I wasnt moving into a bigger flowering tent after this, I would just take my light out and not even use a tent, cause I need, more, plants!

lookin damn good my man, from beginning of veg to now holy shit!
can't wait to be chillin smoking like 12 different types of herb with yo assses



oh and hopefully you get some shitty plants so we can make BHO and hash! RAWR!

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Shit...All this stuff I am doing now was part of the original plan that Mistic and I scripted man. I was screwing around because I was stressing and rushing, I had run out of money so I was trying to skimp on doing things right ( right=the way we intended).

I feel like the tent isn't doing them justice. I will probably get a bigger tent to flower in when I move in the future. I hope to get this setup running smoothly so I know where I want to go with the next big upgrade. Getting little things like a spray bottle and whatnot are fun things I get to do. Mostly I want to find an easily maintained setup that I can just worry about the plants and trimming and training and all those fun things. It seems like a lifelong learning game, and I am so down.

Very nice Lantern, I love your grow, they look like they are gonna fill some jars for ya.....That aluminum tape comes in heavy duty, blows duct tape away for venting...All duct tape breaks down with heat and time....The aluminum won't.

I think a good grow is like art.....I cant wait to see them flower out.....

The only tape I use in my room is the aluminum duct tape. I fucking love it.

Everything is looking good LL (i think lol). I know nothing about hydro so I haven't been chiming in much bro. I'm always lurking though!

Mr.Natural said:

Very nice Lantern, I love your grow, they look like they are gonna fill some jars for ya.....That aluminum tape comes in heavy duty, blows duct tape away for venting...All duct tape breaks down with heat and time....The aluminum won't.

I think a good grow is like art.....I cant wait to see them flower out.....

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Thanks Natty. Hydro seems easy enough so far. Most problems are always somewhere in the last couple weeks of flowering (IMO). Hope the girls make it through to curing.

Dubbz0r said:

The only tape I use in my room is the aluminum duct tape. I fucking love it.

Everything is looking good LL (i think lol). I know nothing about hydro so I haven't been chiming in much bro. I'm always lurking though!

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The only real big difference in hydro is you have more information (IMO). You get to know exact numbers on your nutes and medium (if you are using an inert media). After a couple mistakes it's really easy. The trimming and training is what I am looking forward to, and I definitely need all the advice I can get on doing some. I haven't quite figured anything out, growing-wise. I feel like I will always be a newb, I'm ok with that though. Learning is my favorite thing in the world.

Chime in bro, chime in. I post out here so I can have feedback on what others see or know that I don't. Your grow looks stupendous and you have so many more plants to care for, I couldn't imagine that degree of dedication. phew!

I have gotten a ton of great information from alotaball and his experience, and on the flipside Steezz and you (even on your first grows) havr given me some sage advice for sure. I appreciate it all. I just wish I could show more here. I am thinking about doing quick video clips, maybe 5 min. or less. That way everyone gets a sense of the sounds and environment. or fleeting glance at something on a leaf I may have missed. I think it will be really great to not have to remember what I did with my damn composition notebook.

School time, talk to ya'll later this afternoon.

Sprayed with Neem. Used this new headlight to see in the dark :}

Lanternslight said:

I have gotten a ton of great information from alotaball and his experience, and on the flipside Steezz and you (even on your first grows) havr given me some sage advice for sure. I appreciate it all. I just wish I could show more here. I am thinking about doing quick video clips, maybe 5 min. or less. That way everyone gets a sense of the sounds and environment. or fleeting glance at something on a leaf I may have missed. I think it will be really great to not have to remember what I did with my damn composition notebook.

School time, talk to ya'll later this afternoon.

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Think we are all benefiting from each other..... its awesome.. im hoping that your grown and naturals goes well.. so when I phuck up my hydro.. I can bug u guys LOL

ahh you got a green light, bastard!

yea, you're for sure gonna be getting middle of the night phone calls from me when I do hydro.

That green headlight is the shit. I have 4 green cfl's in my basement that I'm constantly swapping out with normal bulbs, depending on lights on/off of course.

As for the trimming and training I'm still learning as well. The trimming is the part I think I need more work on. I was thinking of writing up a little thing on how I did my LST. I've seen people do it different than I did and I'm not sure why. My LST was really simple...

Dubbz0r said:

That green headlight is the shit. I have 4 green cfl's in my basement that I'm constantly swapping out with normal bulbs, depending on lights on/off of course.

As for the trimming and training I'm still learning as well. The trimming is the part I think I need more work on. I was thinking of writing up a little thing on how I did my LST. I've seen people do it different than I did and I'm not sure why. My LST was really simple...

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I would love to see that man. I have been curious about LST, I know steezz and alotaball talk about it quite often or they have anyways.

Ps. Did anyone notice the hat I'm wearing?

Opened the tent to find that the drippers had popped. 3 of them became detached from the drip stakes and flooded the bottom of the tent. :{

Luckily, I have a little flood guard in there. I have to clean everything up, worried about the ladies now. Seems like it is something new everyday, haha.

Back to the grind....

Lol.... I caught it. The Green Lantern hat!! Quite befitting.

UGHHH, stuff like that drives me nuts man.
I think the worst part about stuff like that is that you can't get mad about it, so it pisses you off even more.
LST = the shit. Only way I like to train my plants, cause you can be nice about it :]

Lanternslight said:

I would love to see that man. I have been curious about LST, I know steezz and alotaball talk about it quite often or they have anyways.

Ps. Did anyone notice the hat I'm wearing?

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The way I originally planned to LST changed while I was doing it. I started to tie the string around branches then loop it through tiny holes I drilled into the lip of the pot, and tie them again. After about 4 strings in I thought, how the hell am I going to adjust these now? Untie and retie? F that. Not to mention it was taking forever and a day. Instead of anything being tied, I doubled the length of the string and looped it through the branch I was training and brought the ends together evenly down at the side of the pot. Pull down on the ends of the string to bend the branch to where you want it and tape it to the side of the pot with that aluminum tape I mentioned earlier. In a few days the branch will begin to grow up from where you looped the string. So when you start to bend your branches you will want to bend them as close to horizontal as possible, thus bushing them out. If you need to adjust just peal off the tape, pull down on the string (or move it to a different node on the same branch) and put on a new piece of tape. It worked awesome for me. When I have no time limit I'm going to start the LST early in veg. I will also veg them a lot longer assuming I'll have no time restriction the second time around. Get them fuckers massive before flower. I'll get some pictures tonight and post them up so you'll get a better idea. Hopefully some of this made sense!