Obama announces new education program focused on African Americans...executive order

redivider said:

racist? a program that singles out and helps a certain community, who happen to be african american, is racist... really?

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But it doesn't help the Hispanic kid in that same community. Or the Oriental kid, or middle eastern kid, or the native American kid.

It is definitely NOT about a "certain community", if it were then FoxNews would be the only outlet complaining about it.

redivider said:

racist? a program that singles out and helps a certain community, who happen to be african american, is racist... really?

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There are 10 Regional Advisory Committees (RACs) authorized by the Educational Technical

Assistance Act of 2002 (Pub. L. 107-279; 20 U.S.C 9605). This report represents the work of the

Appalachia Regional Advisory Committee (Appalachia RAC), which includes Virginia, West

Virginia, Tennessee, and Kentucky. From May 23
– June 21, 2011, the Appalachia RAC worked

to predict and prioritize the region‘s educati
onal needs in the coming years and identify strategies

to meet those needs. The Appalachia RAC members met with each other in three public meetings

and reached out to their constituencies for input to include in their deliberations about the

region‘s educa
tional needs.

School districts in Appalachia are in largely rural territories. In fact, only one of the four states in

the region (Virginia) has a sizable number of urban and suburban districts. The region also has a

substantial percentage of students from low socio-economic backgrounds as evidenced by the

percentages of students receiving free and reduced lunches daily. (See Tables 1 through 5 in this

report for more information on the educational profile of the region.) Given these factors that

reflect
the region‘s unique educational environment, members of the Appalachia RAC identified

the following seven needs:



Closing the Achievement Gap.

Improving Instructional Leadership and Effectiveness.

Building and Sustaining Systemic Capacity.

Addressing Legislation.

Ensuring Equity.

Promoting Family/Community Engagement and Understanding Socio-Economic Status

(SES) Factors.

Re-Thinking Education.

These identified needs were overwhelmingly supported by various education stakeholders. To

verify the needs, the Committee proposed and executed an outreach strategy that involved

developing and administering an online survey via Survey Monkey. Individuals who responded

to the survey included, but were not limited to, teachers, principals, parents, superintendents,

community members, students, central office staff, staff from institutions of higher education, the

business community, and staff from state and local government employees. The survey was

administered to and received responses from 2,532 individuals. Members of the public were also

given opportunities to comment on needs through the RAC website. Seventeen individuals

commented using this site. Each of the needs conceptualized by the RAC is discussed in greater

detail in this report, along with recommendations to address them from both members of the

RAC and from the public.

http://www2.ed.gov/about/bdscomm/list/rac1/appalachia.pdf

So can anyone tell me the ethnic make up of the majority of those who live in appalachia?

i think we've just gotten so obsessed with overboard esoteric theory that we've lost our sense in the humanity of all these issues... it's all skin color, and what you look like, what you dress like, who you vote for... these are american families we're talking about.... kids with the world ahead of them and you'd rather fight over something as vane as skin color... it's pathetic....

ChesusRice said:

Appalachia is about as white as you can get
Any questions?

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Don't try bullshit and deflect, Obama is pandering to the black vote, plain and simple.

Harrekin said:

Don't try bullshit and deflect, Obama is pandering to the black vote, plain and simple.

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And that is your answer to the dept of education reaching out to the Appalachian's and their educational acheivement gap as well?
So he is reaching out to the whites and the blacks?

Harrekin said:

Don't try bullshit and deflect, Obama is pandering to the black vote, plain and simple.

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Oh I get it

Anything Obama does for the good of the country is
Pandering
And anything a Republican does for votes is
patriotic

Thanks for clearing that up

ChesusRice said:

And that is your answer to the dept of education reaching out to the Appalachian's and their educational acheivement gap as well?
So he is reaching out to the whites and the blacks?

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Did Obama include the whitey part? Or just the blacky part?

he doesn't care that there might be 35 kids sitting in a classroom with 27 desks...

ChesusRice said:

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So can anyone tell me the ethnic make up of the majority of those who live in appalachia?

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Just based on experience doing home health in Blue Field WV and Hyden KY I'd say it's about 90%. If your example excluded the 10% minority there you'd have a point.

redivider said:

i think we've just gotten so obsessed with overboard esoteric theory that we've lost our sense in the humanity of all these issues... it's all skin color, and what you look like, what you dress like, who you vote for... these are american families we're talking about.... kids with the world ahead of them and you'd rather fight over something as vane as skin color... it's pathetic....

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well said. These are American families and race shouldn't be a factor. I'm in total agreement with you here.

ginwilly said:

well said. These are American families and race shouldn't be a factor. I'm in total agreement with you here.

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Are you afraid of the missed education you could be receiving? As if you are the book-type anyway. You are nothin but a planet-fucker.

The more education we can get to our younger generation who wants to learn, no matter the class, the better, especially with all the the school cuts. ESPECIALLY with all the critical thinking cuts. ESPECIALLY with all the music program and etc cuts.

dtp5150 said:

Are you afraid of the missed education you could be receiving? As if you are the book-type anyway.

The more education we can get to our younger generation who wants to learn, no matter the class, the better, especially with all the the school cuts.

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Couldn't agree more, you are arguing with air man. There needs to be a deep shift in priorities in these under achieving areas. Parenting is the single most important aspect of a child's success, not skin color. Only a racist would think skin color is a factor in a child's ability to learn.

Anyways my point was (and Iv always maintained) that education should be free and accessible to all, I believe liberty can only truely be achieved when all people have the same educational "start" in life.

If Obama announced a programme to help all kids, then rock on, but a programme specifically for blacks by executive order 3 months before an election?

Dont be so blind.

how the hell are parents supposed to be in their children's lives if they have to work 13 hours a day to be just under the poverty line?

i mean i knew a guy who as a cabbie hadn't spent a single new year's eve at home in over 15 years...

social programs can only do so much.... that much is true, but education?

criticize an attempt to improve it... i mean even if it fails, god dammit we learn from it and improve the approach... the education system has to be agile, it has to provide quality, it has to always strive to improve... i don't even understand how this can become about race... there's a serious problem in our education system and all you can do is blame teachers, blame parents blame students.. blame blame blame... why instead of always trying to put blame on something why not look at the proposed solution and analyze what results it brings?

noooo... that is waaay to logical for today's career politicians... play to our fears, to our stereotypes, that gets them votes and they know it.

Harrekin said:

Anyways my point was (and Iv always maintained) that education should be free and accessible to all, I believe liberty can only truely be achieved when all people have the same educational "start" in life.

If Obama announced a programme to help all kids, then rock on, but a programme specifically for blacks by executive order 3 months before an election?

Dont be so blind.

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how about he announces it just before the school system starts warming up for next year? ever thought about that???

What you have posted here isn't about race. I didn't see anything about race in the Act. If it had said Black Appalachians or White Appalachians then it would be racist. Trying to say an Educational Assistance Act is racist because it helps an entire region regardless of race is idiotic.

ChesusRice said:

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There are 10 Regional Advisory Committees (RACs) authorized by the Educational Technical

Assistance Act of 2002 (Pub. L. 107-279; 20 U.S.C 9605). This report represents the work of the

Appalachia Regional Advisory Committee (Appalachia RAC), which includes Virginia, West

Virginia, Tennessee, and Kentucky. From May 23
– June 21, 2011, the Appalachia RAC worked

to predict and prioritize the region‘s educati
onal needs in the coming years and identify strategies

to meet those needs. The Appalachia RAC members met with each other in three public meetings

and reached out to their constituencies for input to include in their deliberations about the

region‘s educa
tional needs.

School districts in Appalachia are in largely rural territories. In fact, only one of the four states in

the region (Virginia) has a sizable number of urban and suburban districts. The region also has a

substantial percentage of students from low socio-economic backgrounds as evidenced by the

percentages of students receiving free and reduced lunches daily. (See Tables 1 through 5 in this

report for more information on the educational profile of the region.) Given these factors that

reflect
the region‘s unique educational environment, members of the Appalachia RAC identified

the following seven needs:



Closing the Achievement Gap.

Improving Instructional Leadership and Effectiveness.

Building and Sustaining Systemic Capacity.

Addressing Legislation.

Ensuring Equity.

Promoting Family/Community Engagement and Understanding Socio-Economic Status

(SES) Factors.

Re-Thinking Education.

These identified needs were overwhelmingly supported by various education stakeholders. To

verify the needs, the Committee proposed and executed an outreach strategy that involved

developing and administering an online survey via Survey Monkey. Individuals who responded

to the survey included, but were not limited to, teachers, principals, parents, superintendents,

community members, students, central office staff, staff from institutions of higher education, the

business community, and staff from state and local government employees. The survey was

administered to and received responses from 2,532 individuals. Members of the public were also

given opportunities to comment on needs through the RAC website. Seventeen individuals

commented using this site. Each of the needs conceptualized by the RAC is discussed in greater

detail in this report, along with recommendations to address them from both members of the

RAC and from the public.

http://www2.ed.gov/about/bdscomm/list/rac1/appalachia.pdf

So can anyone tell me the ethnic make up of the majority of those who live in appalachia?
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redivider said:

he doesn't care that there might be 35 kids sitting in a classroom with 27 desks...

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We could look at desk manufacturers charging too much also. I'm sure if they charged a few dollars less per desk, the previous budget would have been satisfactory. Too bad EVERY COMPANY IS GREEDY AS FUCK. if there was a classroom with 8 extra kids, a few parents would BUILD DESKS! At I know I would....

I could build 8 desks in on day easy, for like $20 in lumber ( THERE IS ALMOST AN INFINITE AMOUNT OF SCRAP LUMBER IN THE WORLD, FOREIGN HARDWOODS AND METAL MINING DAMAGE OUR PLANET! TABLES ARE BETTER). And it would be a fun bonding and teaching experience with my child, if i had one.

What if kids made their own desks? Like the middle schoolers made the desks for the elementary kids? That would be awesome.

Since when is a desk so technologically out of range that we have to have children in other countries make them?

desks condition children for working in cubicles...the echelon of happiness

redivider you seem to be having a different argument in this thread than the rest of us. Nobody is saying there isn't a strong need to look at our education system and try to fix it. The argument is that race exclusive laws are racist, no more, no less.

I think I pushed your button when I said if you believe in reparations then fine, have the guts to stand up for that, but arguing a racially based law isn't racist by definition is wrong.

Before you jump to conclusions on my stance re: reparations; I feel there is never enough you could do for a human being that has been enslaved by another human being.

if there's a group of white, black, asian, whatever group, and there's a law designed to help that one group... that's not racist.... racist is trying to say that one group doesn't deserve the help because the law is race specific...

even though there exists a historically proven statistic to show that a certain group has been discriminated against, any attempt to fix it is racist... is that your argument?

Does anybody actually have kids here?

How much did 300 page spiral bound notebooks cost lately at the store? How about 3 ring binders?

If you cant answer these two questions, SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT EDUCATION AND RESEARCH

Its unbelievable. I saw 100 page spiral notebooks for almost $6 each at safeway. WHAT THE FUCK???? I get 5 for $1 at the flea market.