Obama Campaign making a KILLING

deprave

deprave

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dude 1200$ lmao....your kidding me right......dan..1200$ according to that site is all Ron Paul got from corporate interest...out of millions upon millions, his top contributor is soldiers in the military lol and he has more military donations then obama...the commander and chief...that should tell you something, For one it tells you Ron Paul is not a corporate crony and the only who isn't. Thanks for the link that proves my point dane
 
Dan Kone

Dan Kone

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sync0s said:
In no point on the link provided do I see it say the words "real estate lobbyists."
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Ok, but it does.
Real Estate $581,172
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It requires going to more data in order to see the category of "Lawyers & Lobbyists" which is a general category in which he has only received $3,000 in PACs from.
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ummm. no.

PAC Contributions $554,719
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Furthermore, why has Obama received $531,000 in campaign contributions from the US government?
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There is a box you can check on tax forms to donate to the president's next campaign. That's where it's from.

Also, little known fact, public financing is available for presidential runs. The catch is you can't take private financing if you accept the public financing, so no one does it.
 
Dan Kone

Dan Kone

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NoDrama said:
you must not have seen the disclaimer:
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Not seeing your point. If an organization donates it self, put the money in a pac and donates, or gets it's employees to all collectively make personal donations, the result is the same in the end.

and were talking less than 1%.
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No, not really. But your point is taken. It's a very low amount compared to other candidates. I was just making the point that this whole vision of Ron Paul the deity who never takes corporate money is not part of reality.
 
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VanishingToaster

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NoDrama said:
Its not 760,000 dollars, its 760,000 donations equaling over $33 million OVER A YEAR. so if RP is getting 1.1 million per week, they are doing 63% better. But Obama is taking stacks of cash from Pacs, Super pacs and whoring himself out to all the too big to exist banksters. Which gives him an additional 20 million lead over RP.
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fuck me! maybe if a bit more time energy and focus was spent on the politics than funding campaigns things would be a bit better.

when cigerettes were banned from advertising it did the cigerette companies a massive favour. the way advertising and promo works is that if all parties invest the same it cancels each other out. opening up politics to this kind of manipulation isn't going to help it come to the conclusion where the best man for the job actually gets it, its the guy who has the most money.

just solved the bush mystery ha
 
Dan Kone

Dan Kone

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deprave said:
dude 1200$ lmao....your kidding me right......dan..1200$ according to that site is all Ron Paul got from corporate interest...out of millions upon millions, his top contributor is soldiers in the military lol and he has more military donations then obama...the commander and chief...that should tell you something, For one it tells you Ron Paul is not a corporate crony and the only who isn't. Thanks for the link that proves my point dane
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No, you're intentionally misinterpreting what that page says in order to preserve your idealistic version of Ron Paul the myth. Even if you just look at the PAC money he took, that's over half a million. How you can possibly look at that and think Paul has only taken $1200 from corporations is truly bizarre.

Sorry to bring this up again but it's true. This is how cult worshipers look at their leaders. They block out everything that doesn't fit into their ideology and only see what they want to see.

Can't it be good enough that Ron Paul has taken less corporate financing than most other politicians? Do you really have to view him as this perfect being? I mean, come on, he's just a human. Why isn't "better than most" good enough? This view you guys have of him is very disturbing.
 
chickengutz

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Dan Kone said:
No, you're intentionally misinterpreting what that page says in order to preserve your idealistic version of Ron Paul the myth. Even if you just look at the PAC money he took, that's over half a million. How you can possibly look at that and think Paul has only taken $1200 from corporations is truly bizarre.

Sorry to bring this up again but it's true. This is how cult worshipers look at their leaders. They block out everything that doesn't fit into their ideology and only see what they want to see.

Can't it be good enough that Ron Paul has taken less corporate financing than most other politicians? Do you really have to view him as this perfect being? I mean, come on, he's just a human. Why isn't "better than most" good enough? This view you guys have of him is very disturbing.
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LOL, I like the way the, "Obomo Cult" keep blocking out everything that doesn't fit into their ideology and only see what they want to see. They make excuses, and still have fairy tale expectations for a complete failure.
 
Dan Kone

Dan Kone

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chickengutz said:
LOL, I like the way the, "Obomo Cult" keep blocking out everything that doesn't fit into their ideology and only see what they want to see. They make excuses, and still have fairy tale expectations for a complete failure.
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I don't even like Obama, so to say I'm in his cult is just LULZ. I'm not the one pretending some politicians is an omnipotent being, that would be Ron Paul enthusiasts.
 
deprave

deprave

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Anyway the point is:
Individual Contributions$58,023,681(91%) -Contributions from people
PAC Contributions$554,719(1%) - Contributions from corporations and special interest
Candidate self-financing$0(0%)
Other$5,362,426(8%)

Check out the other candidates on the PAC stat....lol


I read the 1200$ from, glancing at it upon waking up I typed the post when I had 5 minutes to go to work, and you jump on your cult theory over a typo I made...I don't think Ron Paul is perfect, just that he is obviously the best candidate..and the only candidate for president. I like all freedom fighters and revolutionaries..the people that stand with real people and for real humanitarian issues. Ron Paul will change the world, the other candidates are for the same old shit.

Interestingly enough the top corporate contributors to Ron Paul are Google and Microsoft at at a measly $60,000 each. They must of goggled Ron Paul.

I guees this is where I read the 1250$ from your link:
Top 5 Industries, 1996 - 2010


IndustryTotalIndivsPACsRetired$2,373,972$2,373,972$0Health Professionals$1,011,062$969,812$41,250Computers/Internet$960,929$960,929$0Real Estate$581,172$542,922$38,250Misc Finance$530,701$529,451$1,250


amd btw what a welcome back, you come back and start the verbal assaults and conspiracies...I'm glad 2 see u 2 damn
 
RawBudzski

RawBudzski

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I want to be donated too.. how can I make a donation for myself? Aside from trying to pull fraud, what do I need to do to get people to donate.. . All I need is a couple million worldwide to send me $1. :[

cant be that hard.
 
sync0s

sync0s

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Dan Kone said:
Ok, but it does.



ummm. no.





There is a box you can check on tax forms to donate to the president's next campaign. That's where it's from.

Also, little known fact, public financing is available for presidential runs. The catch is you can't take private financing if you accept the public financing, so no one does it.
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Appreciate the answer to the second question. Didn't think that would be considered from the US Government.

Clearly you are misunderstanding what I said about the $3,000 in PACs I meant only from the Lawyers & Lobbyists Category. Also the 'Real estate Lobbyists' it only says 'Real estate.' There is a difference.
 
sync0s

sync0s

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Dan Kone said:
I don't even like Obama, so to say I'm in his cult is just LULZ. I'm not the one pretending some politicians is an omnipotent being, that would be Ron Paul enthusiasts.
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Hey now... First off I'm a Ron Paul supporter but in no way have I ever represented him as an omnipotent being or anything of the sort, I resent that! Secondly, there are just as many lunatic supporters of Obama and Bachmann, but they don't get the same wrap that RP supporters do.

I tend to agree with you... the field for 2012 is staring down a giant suck hole.
 
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NoDrama

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Dan Kone said:
I don't even like Obama, so to say I'm in his cult is just LULZ. I'm not the one pretending some politicians is an omnipotent being, that would be Ron Paul enthusiasts.
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I am a RP supporter, but I have NEVER presented or ever viewed him as being omnipotent or infallible, it is somewhat insulting to be told that I do when I clearly do not.
 
Dan Kone

Dan Kone

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NoDrama said:
I am a RP supporter, but I have NEVER presented or ever viewed him as being omnipotent or infallible, it is somewhat insulting to be told that I do when I clearly do not.
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ok. so prove it. If you don't think Ron Paul is infallible, list his flaws.

If what I'm saying isn't true, why is everyone jumping down my throat for correcting people who were claiming Ron Paul has too much integrity to take PAC money? I said from the start while it is factually incorrect that Ron Paul does not take PAC money, it is true that he doesn't take as much corporate financing as other candidates. And the response I got was similar to the response I would have gotten if I executed the baby jesus live on TV.

I mean WTF? My point was that while Ron Paul is better than most when it comes to accepting special interest money he's not perfect. Now everyone is acting like I'm worse than hitler.
 
deprave

deprave

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Dan Kone said:
ok. so prove it. If you don't think Ron Paul is infallible, list his flaws.

If what I'm saying isn't true, why is everyone jumping down my throat for correcting people who were claiming Ron Paul has too much integrity to take PAC money? I said from the start while it is factually incorrect that Ron Paul does not take PAC money, it is true that he doesn't take as much corporate financing as other candidates. And the response I got was similar to the response I would have gotten if I executed the baby jesus live on TV.

I mean WTF? My point was that while Ron Paul is better than most when it comes to accepting special interest money he's not perfect. Now everyone is acting like I'm worse than hitler.
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well the point is he is not only better then most about this but the money he has got from PACS shouldn't even count really its so insignificant, 1250 from some Beef Restaurant in idaho, 50$ from maggies bakery.....if you want to call that pac money..even though it is....its nothing compared to Mitt Romney 10,000,000$ from a fake company he made up and 121,000 from a liberal PAC...The page posted is Ron Pauls entire 30 year career, if you only look at 2011 you get a better comparison...not really fair to compare Ron Pauls 30 years vs the other candidates 4-8 or less years.
 
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NoDrama

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Dan Kone said:
ok. so prove it. If you don't think Ron Paul is infallible, list his flaws.

If what I'm saying isn't true, why is everyone jumping down my throat for correcting people who were claiming Ron Paul has too much integrity to take PAC money? I said from the start while it is factually incorrect that Ron Paul does not take PAC money, it is true that he doesn't take as much corporate financing as other candidates. And the response I got was similar to the response I would have gotten if I executed the baby jesus live on TV.

I mean WTF? My point was that while Ron Paul is better than most when it comes to accepting special interest money he's not perfect. Now everyone is acting like I'm worse than hitler.
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I can start listing faults easily.
1. He isn't a spring chicken, although age does usually bring wisdom.
2. He is not a very effective speaker, he comes off as weak and sometimes a bit confused.
3. His belief that the market can solve almost every problem is a bit shortsighted.

That is just off the top of my head.
 
deprave

deprave

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his biggest flaw is that hes all about philosophy and not identity, therefore not a good corporate politician, he tells the truth...

Ron Paul hes like some crazy old dude at first glance and just getting 20 minute takes of him here and there, it is only once I begin to understand Ron Paul that I really even liked him at all. Yet again at this debate he should of said a bazillion things that he didn't say, he is terrible at these debate formats.....Ron Paul is a teacher , hes not one for petty arguments and its very easy for the media to peg him as an Ideologue thats not practical, just think how easily you could of pegged any of your professors as impractical ideologues, its like shooting fish in a barrel.

Ron Paul is a philosopher and he is very much like any great humanitarian philosopher, People compare his philosophy to Gandhi , they are both very similar. So I do see him as what will be a legendary philosopher of our time. NOT A GOD..ITS NOT A CULT....funny they said the same thing about all the liberty driven human rights movements.
 
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