Obama ... He's Lookin' Good!

FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half
Well lets go down the list. By his action(maybe he knew maybe he didnt) but lowering your head below the shoulder height and not looking eye to eye is a custom to show submission and when he did that countries like Iran and other middle eastern countries started immediately testing him and calling him a blatant liar as they knew he would back down so there's one. To be the president of the United States in front of the world means you have to project yourself as strong and firm. You have to be decisive and make sure when you do something you do it fully. Other countries look at the US and if we faulter the world flinches prime exaple our current econoimic downfall which yes since Obama took office has increased dramtiucally into a free fall with his un thought through errant spending has caused other countries economies to slow and recess. we are the world thermometer if we go cold the world follows as we buy and trade with most countries if we stop buying thier economy slows and they loose jobs and it's a chain reaction. Obama by his decisions has shown he is not capable of financially sound decisions and even china had to directly tell him to stop devaluing the dollar or china would withdraw its financing they have with the US as they would cash in thier entire money market which would cripple the US. Next like I said Isreal is just a stepping stone we keep for our needs nothing more. We do not care who is right or wrong but why would we back palastein who will loose and has less to offer us that ones is simple. Now you ask about nuclear war.. well if you have kept up you knopw that North Korea has broken the nuclear talks agreement which the US helps keep sanction and has declared no us or foreign ship in North Korea or disputed waters would be allowed and would be fired on. Along with testing prohibited nuclear war heads and medium range missles to show now they do not fear the new US control ie Obama and his staff.Obama has said for them to stop or more sanctions and other options will be exercised. You tell me if we make any advancement on North Korea Kim will not launch his new weapons. He may only hit our coasts but will destroy our closer allies making a loing war we now would be in. As we are busy there and in afgahanastan and elsewhere that leaves Iran who already talked smack about Obama being a fake who wants to trick the muslim nations into a divide to complete thier nukes and begin do as they have threatened. Now 2 nuclear powers with no cares at open war the US in the middle.. yeah thats a pretty good thing to call a nuclear world war. Once Korea launches china will have no choice but to launch. Thius is a fact of what is happening today in the world it is not made up. Kim is a nut job and if he follows history as it looks he is. he will start this new war hopeing it will gain his country respect and fear and then he already taped his youngest son to be his successor and give this credit to his son to establish him as anew power to be respected just as Kims father did right before turning power over to him. Now on the bow yeah he can bow to the queen as its different in european culture its a sign or respect and friendly gesture in the arab nations its a submission to the power that be ie the king that your are acknowledging your are below him and will do as he asks..that is common knowledge way different and Obama should have known thatas they teach this to all presidents before these type of meetings
 
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PadawanBater

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Well lets go down the list. By his action(maybe he knew maybe he didnt) but lowering your head below the shoulder height and not looking eye to eye is a custom to show submission and when he did that countries like Iran and other middle eastern countries started immediately testing him and calling him a blatant liar as they knew he would back down so there's one.
Bowing is a sign of respect, exactly the same as a handshake in the west is. When you shake someones hand, are you showing them submission? (if you noticed, Obama was also shaking the Kings hand while he bowed). Regardless, what's the difference between showing the Saudi King respect and showing the British Queen respect? Why don't you just come out and say it? We all know what it is.

To be the president of the United States in front of the world means you have to project yourself as strong and firm. You have to be decisive and make sure when you do something you do it fully. Other countries look at the US and if we faulter the world flinches prime exaple our current econoimic downfall which yes since Obama took office has increased dramtiucally into a free fall with his un thought through errant spending has caused other countries economies to slow and recess.
The economic collapse has nothing to do with how Obama is projecting himself. Economic growth doesn't depend on single individuals, even when that single individual is the president.

we are the world thermometer if we go cold the world follows as we buy and trade with most countries if we stop buying thier economy slows and they loose jobs and it's a chain reaction. Obama by his decisions has shown he is not capable of financially sound decisions and even china had to directly tell him to stop devaluing the dollar or china would withdraw its financing they have with the US as they would cash in thier entire money market which would cripple the US.
I agree with that.

Next like I said Isreal is just a stepping stone we keep for our needs nothing more. We do not care who is right or wrong but why would we back palastein who will loose and has less to offer us that ones is simple.
It's all about American interests, exactly right.

Now you ask about nuclear war.. well if you have kept up you knopw that North Korea has broken the nuclear talks agreement which the US helps keep sanction and has declared no us or foreign ship in North Korea or disputed waters would be allowed and would be fired on. Along with testing prohibited nuclear war heads and medium range missles to show now they do not fear the new US control ie Obama and his staff.
The North Koreans were doing the exact same stuff before Obama became president. Defying western warnings and firing and testing their rockets anyway. Is the logic that if the North Koreans perceive Obama as weak, they'll be free to unleash their warheads on the rest of the world and Obama will just back down and not do anything about it? If North Korea launched a warhead at another country in an act of agression, all this economic shit, all the major stuff going on in the middle east, all of it would be rerouted to handle this new situation, as it would be exponentially more important to the rest of the world. Even if, which is a BIG IF, the North Koreans perceive Obama as weak, that doesn't change what the US government would do in retaliation to an act like that. Underestimating your enemy is one of the worst mistakes a leader can make.

Obama has said for them to stop or more sanctions and other options will be exercised. You tell me if we make any advancement on North Korea Kim will not launch his new weapons.
What legal authority do we have to make any advancement on North Korea other than sanctions? What kinds of benifits would Kim Jong Ill receive after he launched a warhead? What would be in it for him? Why would he do it?

He may only hit our coasts but will destroy our closer allies making a loing war we now would be in.
North Korea does not have the technology to strike out western coast, the farthest they can reach is Alaska or Hawaii. Also, one warhead would not completely destroy any of our allied countries, it would take a lot more than that.

As we are busy there and in afgahanastan and elsewhere that leaves Iran who already talked smack about Obama being a fake who wants to trick the muslim nations into a divide to complete thier nukes and begin do as they have threatened.
Well, 57% of the Muslim world approved of his speech in Cairo, so I'd say more Muslims agree with Obama than agree with Ahmadinejad.

Now 2 nuclear powers with no cares at open war the US in the middle.. yeah thats a pretty good thing to call a nuclear world war. Once Korea launches china will have no choice but to launch. Thius is a fact of what is happening today in the world it is not made up. Kim is a nut job and if he follows history as it looks he is. he will start this new war hopeing it will gain his country respect and fear and then he already taped his youngest son to be his successor and give this credit to his son to establish him as anew power to be respected just as Kims father did right before turning power over to him.
Dude, think of the reprocutions of declaring war with the United States. No nation on this planet is capable of defeating our military, and they all know that. History lesson, when was the last time a nation declared war on the United States first?
Now on the bow yeah he can bow to the queen as its different in european culture its a sign or respect and friendly gesture in the arab nations its a submission to the power that be ie the king that your are acknowledging your are below him and will do as he asks..that is common knowledge way different and Obama should have known thatas they teach this to all presidents before these type of meetings
A bow is a sign of respect, that's it.
 

Babs34

Well-Known Member
Well lets go down the list. By his action(maybe he knew maybe he didnt) but lowering your head below the shoulder height and not looking eye to eye is a custom to show submission and when he did that countries like Iran and other middle eastern countries started immediately testing him and calling him a blatant liar as they knew he would back down so there's one. To be the president of the United States in front of the world means you have to project yourself as strong and firm. You have to be decisive and make sure when you do something you do it fully. Other countries look at the US and if we faulter the world flinches prime exaple our current econoimic downfall which yes since Obama took office has increased dramtiucally into a free fall with his un thought through errant spending has caused other countries economies to slow and recess. we are the world thermometer if we go cold the world follows as we buy and trade with most countries if we stop buying thier economy slows and they loose jobs and it's a chain reaction. Obama by his decisions has shown he is not capable of financially sound decisions and even china had to directly tell him to stop devaluing the dollar or china would withdraw its financing they have with the US as they would cash in thier entire money market which would cripple the US. Next like I said Isreal is just a stepping stone we keep for our needs nothing more. We do not care who is right or wrong but why would we back palastein who will loose and has less to offer us that ones is simple. Now you ask about nuclear war.. well if you have kept up you knopw that North Korea has broken the nuclear talks agreement which the US helps keep sanction and has declared no us or foreign ship in North Korea or disputed waters would be allowed and would be fired on. Along with testing prohibited nuclear war heads and medium range missles to show now they do not fear the new US control ie Obama and his staff.Obama has said for them to stop or more sanctions and other options will be exercised. You tell me if we make any advancement on North Korea Kim will not launch his new weapons. He may only hit our coasts but will destroy our closer allies making a loing war we now would be in. As we are busy there and in afgahanastan and elsewhere that leaves Iran who already talked smack about Obama being a fake who wants to trick the muslim nations into a divide to complete thier nukes and begin do as they have threatened. Now 2 nuclear powers with no cares at open war the US in the middle.. yeah thats a pretty good thing to call a nuclear world war. Once Korea launches china will have no choice but to launch. Thius is a fact of what is happening today in the world it is not made up. Kim is a nut job and if he follows history as it looks he is. he will start this new war hopeing it will gain his country respect and fear and then he already taped his youngest son to be his successor and give this credit to his son to establish him as anew power to be respected just as Kims father did right before turning power over to him. Now on the bow yeah he can bow to the queen as its different in european culture its a sign or respect and friendly gesture in the arab nations its a submission to the power that be ie the king that your are acknowledging your are below him and will do as he asks..that is common knowledge way different and Obama should have known thatas they teach this to all presidents before these type of meetings
He is selling the USA down the river.......look out Euorope, united we shall become. Obama =dhimmitude
 

Babs34

Well-Known Member
Bowing is a sign of respect, exactly the same as a handshake in the west is. When you shake someones hand, are you showing them submission? (if you noticed, Obama was also shaking the Kings hand while he bowed). Regardless, what's the difference between showing the Saudi King respect and showing the British Queen respect? Why don't you just come out and say it? We all know what it is.
----The queen is not an absolute FREAK of nature.........there lies your difference. Any "king" of the "prophet" I would spit upon.....no peace be upon him......he was an evil SOB. The "king" represents reverence for his evil acts....and AGENDAS.
 

Babs34

Well-Known Member
How many times must we really sleep with the enemy before the realization hits that we caught the disease?
 
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PadawanBater

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Bowing is a sign of respect, exactly the same as a handshake in the west is. When you shake someones hand, are you showing them submission? (if you noticed, Obama was also shaking the Kings hand while he bowed). Regardless, what's the difference between showing the Saudi King respect and showing the British Queen respect? Why don't you just come out and say it? We all know what it is.
----The queen is not an absolute FREAK of nature.........there lies your difference. Any "king" of the "prophet" I would spit upon.....no peace be upon him......he was an evil SOB. The "king" represents reverence for his evil acts....and AGENDAS.

Either Saudi Arabia is an ally and we treat it with as much respect as we would any other ally, or we don't.

Any other action is extremely hypocritical.
 

bicycle racer

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america does not have friends only interests important to remember and as far as obamas bowing there is a difference between showing respect and showing weakness. when your in another country its customs need to be respected especially with regards to muslim nations. as far as israels actions and our relations with them thats one of our bigger mistakes.
 

bicycle racer

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its not me who needs education on islam it seems dont be blind to reality simply because your christian thats no way to go through life. it seems only the people not part of a religion can look with an unbiased eye at the situation between christians jews and muslims.
 

olosto

New Member
its not me who needs education on islam it seems dont be blind to reality simply because your christian thats no way to go through life. it seems only the people not part of a religion can look with an unbiased eye at the situation between christians jews and muslims.

Totally Agree!
 
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PadawanBater

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its not me who needs education on islam it seems dont be blind to reality simply because your christian thats no way to go through life. it seems only the people not part of a religion can look with an unbiased eye at the situation between christians jews and muslims.
I feel the exact same way, + rep.

Believers take total offence to this, how can we present the same idea in a more positive way so they don't get pissed and we actually start making some fuckin' progress?
 
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PadawanBater

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its not me who needs education on islam it seems dont be blind to reality simply because your christian thats no way to go through life. it seems only the people not part of a religion can look with an unbiased eye at the situation between christians jews and muslims.
I feel the exact same way, + rep.
Believers take total offence to this, how can we present the same idea in a more positive way so they don't get pissed and we actually start making some fuckin' progress?
 

bicycle racer

Well-Known Member
i really dont know its one of the great conundrums of the human condition. its funny cause religious people say that 'the truth will set you free' which is true but there understanding of the truth is selective at best most of the time. thats one of the great questions of mankind and even if the answer was known there would be no certainty that all would listen. life is such a trip i will say. thanks for the rep.
 

Babs34

Well-Known Member
And the sheep go Baa Baa Baa....

Obama is easily the greatest danger this country has ever faced...hollowing out the great wealth from 250 years of sweat and hard work.....an enemy within.
Damn Cracker.....say it aint so--we're so completely on the same page. :cool:
 

Babs34

Well-Known Member
Either Saudi Arabia is an ally and we treat it with as much respect as we would any other ally, or we don't.

Any other action is extremely hypocritical.
Unless you have extensively studied Islam and briefed quite a few "peaceful" muslims at that, don't attempt to define "respect."
"As much respect" is NOT bowing.........go do some googling "dhimi"
 

Babs34

Well-Known Member
I feel the exact same way, + rep.
Believers take total offence to this, how can we present the same idea in a more positive way so they don't get pissed and we actually start making some fuckin' progress?
Once a dhimmi, always a dhimmi? Get it?
 
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