Obama nominates new Sec.Def and DCI

and ech, wtf are you on a pot growing site to bicker about politics? there are millions of forums dedicated to such things...must be that in a real arena for that topic you would get pawned...but hell UB is doing you in fine here
 
UncleBuck said:
that must explain all the nice things you've said about joe biden then.

oh, wait. you just made an ass out of yourself again. nevermind.
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I sort of like Joe Biden. I think he is too dumb to handle anything but a menial job, but he does seem likable.
 
desert dude said:
He later apologized for the remark. Sort of like Jesse Jackson's "hymie town" remark. Much ado about nothing.
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The race pimp's remarks included a slur "hymie", Hagel's remarks did not.

Some mentally challenged gits think that you cannot suggest that a homosexual may not be the best choice for a position without being a bigot.

Funny thing is, they are, by far, the biggest bigots of all. They are so bigoted, that cannot see it, they actually think they are the antithesis of bigotry... how deluded can you get?
 
UncleBuck said:
no, you're just finding any reason whatsoever to denigrate a black person. has nothing to do whatsoever with anything in this thread, but of course it's just how you are.

you're a straight up racist. it oozes out of you.
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Says the Queen of Denial.
 
echelon1k1 said:
Irrelevant by any measure... Even the Occupiers didn't want him. He's got some interesting views on Obama though...

And I quote "See, Barack's been talking down to black people ... I want to cut his nuts off."

Buck, if I may ask, what's your highest level of education?
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Buck is repeating seventh grade because her hormonal rages kept her from advancing to the 8th grade.
 
Mr Neutron said:
The race pimp's remarks included a slur "hymie", Hagel's remarks did not.

Some mentally challenged gits think that you cannot suggest that a homosexual may not be the best choice for a position without being a bigot.

Funny thing is, they are, by far, the biggest bigots of all. They are so bigoted, that cannot see it, they actually think they are the antithesis of bigotry... how deluded can you get?
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The trouble is that you are positing as fact that homosexuality is a choice. Modern research has shown this "fact" to be not so, and that is of consequence. Homosexuality can no longer be positioned as morally inferior. cn
 
UncleBuck said:
of course you do. bigots stick together.

*“Ambassadorial posts are sensitive,” Hagel said. “They are representing America. They are representing our lifestyle, our values, our standards. And I think it is an inhibiting factor to be gay — openly, aggressively gay, like Mr. Hormel — to do an effective job.”
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It seems that some countries objected to homosexuality in the US ambassador as well...

I was right, this Hormel guy is the heir to the Hormel chili fortune. Nastiest fucking canned chili you can buy. That alone should disqualify him from representing America.

"In 1994, President Bill Clinton considered Hormel for the ambassadorship to Fiji, but did not put the nomination forward due to protests from Fiji officials.[SUP][2][/SUP] Gay male sexual acts were punishable with prison sentences in Fiji and Hormel's being open about his sexuality would stand in conflict with the culture. Instead Hormel was named as part of the United Nations delegation from the US to the Human Rights Commission in 1995, and in 1996 became an alternate for the United Nations General Assembly.[SUP][2][/SUP] In October 1997 Clinton nominated Hormel to be ambassador to Luxembourg, which had removed laws prohibiting consensual same-sex acts between adults in the 1800s.[SUP][2][/SUP][SUP][3][/SUP] This appointment was the first nomination or appointment of an openly LGBT person from the US.[SUP][2]"[/SUP]
 
cannabineer said:
The trouble is that you are positing as fact that homosexuality is a choice. Modern research has shown this "fact" to be not so, and that is of consequence. Homosexuality can no longer be positioned as morally inferior. cn
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Ah, but the fact is there are many countries that do consider them inferior and to place an ambassador who is a homosexual, in such a country, is not a very smart thing to do for diplomacy.
 
Mr Neutron said:
Ah, but the fact is there are many countries that do consider them inferior and to place an ambassador who is a homosexual, in such a country, is not a very smart thing to do for diplomacy.
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I suppose this also applies to women, as they're viewed as inferior in much of the developing world too.
 
A very sound elementary policy is not to placate bigots, especially when they're as insignificant as Fiji. My word, what a spineless POS Clinton was and is.
 
Mr Neutron said:
Ah, but the fact is there are many countries that do consider them inferior and to place an ambassador who is a homosexual, in such a country, is not a very smart thing to do for diplomacy.
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Oh. I didn't catch the bit about appointing a gay embassy member.
Still, what could the host country do? Declare that guy PNG? Let'm, and let'm put their reason in writing. cn
 
Mr Neutron said:
The race pimp's remarks included a slur "hymie", Hagel's remarks did not.

Some mentally challenged gits think that you cannot suggest that a homosexual may not be the best choice for a position without being a bigot.

Funny thing is, they are, by far, the biggest bigots of all. They are so bigoted, that cannot see it, they actually think they are the antithesis of bigotry... how deluded can you get?
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"no, you're the racist!"

got it.
 
desert dude said:
It seems that some countries objected to homosexuality in the US ambassador as well...

I was right, this Hormel guy is the heir to the Hormel chili fortune. Nastiest fucking canned chili you can buy. That alone should disqualify him from representing America.

"In 1994, President Bill Clinton considered Hormel for the ambassadorship to Fiji, but did not put the nomination forward due to protests from Fiji officials.[SUP][2][/SUP] Gay male sexual acts were punishable with prison sentences in Fiji and Hormel's being open about his sexuality would stand in conflict with the culture. Instead Hormel was named as part of the United Nations delegation from the US to the Human Rights Commission in 1995, and in 1996 became an alternate for the United Nations General Assembly.[SUP][2][/SUP] In October 1997 Clinton nominated Hormel to be ambassador to Luxembourg, which had removed laws prohibiting consensual same-sex acts between adults in the 1800s.[SUP][2][/SUP][SUP][3][/SUP] This appointment was the first nomination or appointment of an openly LGBT person from the US.[SUP][2]"[/SUP]
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got it.

gays are inferior and not qualified to do the same jobs as straight people, especially those "aggressively and openly gay ones".

and you wonder why people call you a racist bigot.
 
Mr Neutron said:
Ah, but the fact is there are many countries that do consider them inferior and to place an ambassador who is a homosexual, in such a country, is not a very smart thing to do for diplomacy.
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yes, let's cater to bigotry.

and you wonder why you're viewed as a racist bigot.
 
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